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WE or Sunny?

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Forcillo
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From these two trailers and your knowledge of PBP vs. Level 1, which movie do you plan on buying, or are most excited about?

Sunny Official Trailer from Level 1 on Vimeo.







My vote goes to Sunny, but what's YOUR opinion?
Jul 25 2012 10:08PM
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family_vacation
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To be honest I almost had trouble finishing the WE trailer. Instead of being interesting, I felt like the interviews were tailored for a toddler aged viewer, some of the cuts were suspect, and I've disliked that song since I first heard it.

Sunny on the other hand came with one of my favorite trailers I've ever seen.

Once premiere season rolls around though, I'm sure that I'm going to be impressed by both movies. PBP puts out good films, and I'd be willing to bet that WE is going to be amazing as long as the "we're friends" thing is not present throughout the entire movie. I'll probably buy both films.
Jul 26 2012 2:51AM
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lorax
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I think you took what I said a bit too literally. Sure criticism is necessary for improvement, and often times after I watch an edit or movie I decide that I don't like it or I love it, but that is only because of the music, the skiers style, or the cinematography. All of those things are totally subjective and the Person(s) affiliated with the edit either has opinions that are contrasting or similar to mine. Even when I don't like an edit or movie I appreciate it and enjoy it because it involves skiing, something I love. I just don't think that people should complain about the subjective choices made by production company or skier makes, because unlike food at a restaurant what really matters is the shared love of skiing. And I'm not saying that people can't criticize ski movies because they aren't making them, I'm saying that it is impossible to do work that you're happy with, and satisfy everyone.
Jul 26 2012 3:17AM
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lorax
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Haha I disagree with the first part of your post. The trailer was kinda sloppy, and the interviews used were a little weak, but the skiing was sick. I also really like the song, I don't care that it has shitty lyrics, It just gets me in a happy mood which coincides pretty well with the theme of the trailer. To me it looks like sort of a indirect sequal to EDIAS. I can see how you would dislike it though, as someone with flawless cinematography skills It is definitely sub par.
Jul 26 2012 3:28AM
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Ribss.
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Hopefully both, and Act Natural and the Eighty Six.
Jul 26 2012 3:45AM
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JWoods
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I agree, I'll watch them all but Level 1 TSP and 4bi9's movies are all going to be super sick I just don't really like PBP, their riders (besides a couple obviously) or their movies so we'll see
Jul 26 2012 4:05AM
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gadschap
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WE for sure.

glad to see a company not aiming towards cold hard ski porn. some of those quotes hit me hard, especially pep's "you only have one chance to be here, so why give it up?"

level 1's trailer did have a good song and was edited well, but the skiing was nowhere near as insane as PBP's. also their movie is about as thematically bland as ski movies come
Jul 26 2012 4:27AM
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Yossarian
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Absolutely, I'll probably get WE just cause of Pettit to be honest, his segs always blow me away.
Jul 26 2012 6:33AM
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Ghini
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I agree with this 100%
Jul 26 2012 7:53AM
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GrabsForFun
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International or just America/Canada?
Jul 26 2012 9:09AM
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CrotchKiller
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the 86
Jul 26 2012 9:46AM
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B-WASS
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Im not sure but when you go to checkout you can put in your area code to figure it out
Jul 26 2012 12:52PM
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wameron
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So is Pettit not filming with MSP anymore? Because he was the only reason I bought their films
Jul 26 2012 12:58PM
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ski0
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Seriously that second bobby brown quote was so stupid and didnt fit at all with the rest of the trailer. Poor Boyz movies would be better if they took away Bobbys seg and gave Cam Reilly 2 segs
Jul 26 2012 1:03PM
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bdc.
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I shall be getting sunny. I will also probably get act natural.
Jul 26 2012 1:04PM
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.ZT.
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WE honestly seems like the kind of movie NS would love. Sick skiing, balanced urban and park and powder, Mackelmore song (I know a lot of people on here who like him), T-Hall, out for having fun, shenanigans, sick skiers, sick features(upside down wall, re-direct qp), and on top of that it's PBP so you know it'll be sick.

I'm very surprised by all the hate, the "dramatic interviews" are really just talking about how it's sick to be skiing having fun with your friends. Whatever I like both movies and the TSP movie and the Stept movie and probably a few others like Meatheads and TGR or MSP.
Jul 26 2012 1:18PM
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WillStart
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Sounds like I understood exactly what you were saying, and I still disagree. It's cool that you feel that way, but I just don't think it's realistic that most people could feel like that about ski movies.


Also, in reply to your other comment (and this isn't necessarily directed at you), it's not so much that the song has shitty lyrics, it's that the song is intended to be a joke. It puts me in a good mood too, but I think it's unusual that PBP chose a song that is clearly a joke if you actually listen to the lyrics. It's hard to watch banger ski footage when the song is saying "We're having a ho-down, you hoe's down? Don't let me pull my hose out 'Cause it's big, long, pink, strong And known to dance like all night long.' Just doesn't really work and I think that should have been taken into consideration. An instrumental for the verse may have worked better. IMO that kind of throws off their whole friend vibe and almost feels like the song is making fun of the concept of 'WE' itself.
Jul 26 2012 1:18PM
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Z-Juice
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I'm always the most excited for new Level 1.

I'm sure WE will be sick too, but seriously the theme and idea is really weak/stupid.
Jul 26 2012 1:58PM
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JWoods
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Jul 26 2012 2:05PM
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t_rob
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So, in your opinion, what was the theme of the level 1 movies for 2008-2010?
Jul 26 2012 2:06PM
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Z-Juice
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2008: average
"Turbo will not give your car an extra power boost or shave seconds off your quarter mile- but it might, just might, change the way you think about skiing. Turning it up a notch once again Level 1 followed their crew of dedicated skiers throughout North America in the unforgettable season of 2008."

2009: pretty solid
"Level 1 looks back and challenges perspectives of where the sport has come from, and where it’s going in their tenth-anniversary offering, ‘Refresh.’ Keeping true to their humble roots while exploring every arena that skiing has to offer the Level 1 crew serves up the most diverse ski entertainment to date. New things will never get old- fresh images of big jumps, deep powder, technical urban exploits, steep lines, and memorable terrain park action with a collection of the sport’s best and brightest talent."

2010: my personal favorite
"Wake up, because Level 1 will take you on the visual trip of a lifetime. Come along for the ride!"

2011: Unique and interesting, I liked it
"The earth turns and the sun disappears over the horizon. Flip the switch, and the lights go out. Slumber begins and the mind awakens, taking us to places we’ve never been and witnessing things not yet seen or imagined."

2012: short and sweet
"Level 1 injected a positive mood into the ski season – giving a dose of light therapy to dark northern landscapes of Scandinavia, Alaska, Japan and British Columbia. So sit back and relax, put your shades on and soak up the rays- the future looks bright."
Jul 26 2012 2:22PM
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t_rob
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I was going for team attitude. It's something that level 1 has done successfully for years that PBP/MSP/TGR haven't cashed in on. I think it was more the introduction of Stept/4bi9 to the grand stage which made it possible for PBP to do.
Jul 26 2012 2:40PM
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faux_real
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I agree. PBP should stick to ski porn and drop the interviews and corny themes.
Jul 26 2012 2:54PM
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snowswinger
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why? when u do the same thing over and over again u dont grow or learn new things.  the entire freeskiing community, athletes and companies, are so progressive and have spread out in so many unique directions.  sometimes you have to step outside of ur comfort bubble and take a shot at a new concept/ideas.  it will be interesting to see how they spin this theme to give us a deeper look of the inner workings of poorboyz.

I will definitely be buying as many ski movies as possible.  Stoked for all of them (except for WME)!!!

Jul 26 2012 3:57PM
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.catierob
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wtf is the language the people are singing in, in Sunny.
Jul 26 2012 3:58PM
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ForeverYung
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If it ain't 'merican, it ain't right
Jul 26 2012 4:07PM
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fatbastard
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Have you watched an MSP movie in the last few years? If you judge "team attitude" by guys who look like they're having fun (which is basically how I interpret it), I 'd say the MSP team attitude is pretty damn high.

Jul 26 2012 4:09PM
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WorthDaMoney
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because its posted on redbull's media channel and non skiers go on youtube more than vimeo.
Jul 26 2012 4:14PM
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t_rob
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You got me. I haven't seen an MSP movie twice since Push/Pull and didn't see last years. On the trips, I can see what you're saying, especially with kaj/sven, bobby/gus. Damnit. Fuck you.
Jul 26 2012 5:24PM
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hella.sick.skier
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tsp has a sick trailer every year then the movie lets me down a bit. but it looks super super sick this year
Jul 26 2012 6:40PM
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L.G.P.
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sunny's trailer is better but comparing to last years movies...grand bizarre to after dark. i would say grand bizarre was better so i would have to go with WE cause poor boyz has been progressively getting better
Jul 26 2012 6:42PM
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404404
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WE trailer was bad as hell who let that thing get uploaded?
Jul 26 2012 7:34PM
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CrotchKiller
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-k dude u sux
Jul 26 2012 7:40PM
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NinetyFour
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The one thing I hope we get from WE is alot more feedback and talk from the riders in the film. It kills me when I watch a movie and there is just a massive rider disconnect. Sure I get stoked on really good shots, banger tricks, and crazy scenery, but it sucks when we have no idea what was going through the skiers mind. I love TGR's behind the line series, they really build the stoke of getting to watch the skier ride it by giving us alot of info before we actually see it, then more as the skier rides. Just got to watch Grand Bizarre the other day, and it was pretty sick, but like I said, the rider disconnect made me feel empty, looking for more. I think there should be more to movies then just segments that consist of shot after shot after shot. Maybe I'm not watching the right movies? :S

This is the sort of thing I would like to see more of though, just woven into a movie:

En Route Camp BC from NIMBUS INDEPENDENT on Vimeo.

Behind The Line - Sage Cattabriga-Alosa Skis Dr. Seuss from Teton Gravity Research on Vimeo.


Jul 26 2012 8:17PM
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danbrown
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Aside from a small handful of shots I wasn't that impressed with the WE trailer but I'm so damn stoked to see Karl's shots, fuck yeah bud!
Jul 26 2012 8:24PM
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ForeverYung
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He is one of the main reasons I'm buying it, love watching that guy ski
Jul 26 2012 8:32PM
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GANDALF
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CHARLEY AGER.

need i say more?
Jul 26 2012 8:40PM
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A-Mac.
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Both look gnarly. Pre-Ordered Sunny already. Next Education of Style I think.
Jul 26 2012 9:25PM
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casual
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The WE trailer was pretty much "skiing is our life and we live to bro down and get lifestyle shots" generic gobbletygook. The Sunny trailer is a lot better, and I think Act Natural's trailer is better still.

That said, I'm excited to see both WE and Sunny, they both have an amazing roster of talent, and I can look past a lot of filming, editing, and musical short comings in order to appreciate the skiing.

 I tend to be a Level 1 guy (since about LSS, anyway) so naturally I'm excited for that, but with the additions to the PBP squad (particularly Petit and Banks) I'm more pumped for a PBP flick than I have been in years, despite the fact that I think the trailer seriously sucked.

I'm grateful that ski flicks have gotten to the point where I HAVE to buy 4-5 movies a year to feel like I'm seeing all of the top notch ski footage in a given season. We're lucky to have the options we have.
Jul 26 2012 10:07PM
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CrotchKiller
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The Eighty Six trailer will be better then all, calling it noaw
Jul 26 2012 10:26PM
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Skier1478
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This is actually one of my first times checking out some PBP work. And I'll say, this is sick. I'm definitely getting it. Probably on iTunes though, just because it's probably cheaper.
Sunny however, I will get the pre-order, simply because the t-shirt looks sick and both together comes out to only 22$ which is pretty cheap.

Stoked for both.
Jul 26 2012 10:33PM
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RockNRollNghtClb
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4bi9s will be better
Jul 26 2012 10:35PM
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CrotchKiller
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no
Jul 26 2012 10:38PM
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jibcrew1
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the eighty six

we

and the dream factory from tgr is what i will be getting

Jul 26 2012 10:47PM
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james6345789
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I wish ski movies weren't expensive. I want to buy Sunny, Act Natural, Weight, Set Your Sights, and probably the new Stept Movie.
Jul 26 2012 10:56PM
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Session
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The thing is you shouldn't need to choose. You should buy one less lame hoodie, and use that money to support every film company trying to bring the stoke. Resist the urge to shit on a film because it didn't have the "vibe". Because they all still have the fucking skiing.
Jul 26 2012 11:19PM
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Z-Juice
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4BI9's movie will definitely be better

Jul 26 2012 11:23PM
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Squeenerd
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WE looked cool, but there were so many more banger shots in the Sunny trailer. But I guess im also kinda biased towards L1 anyways
Jul 27 2012 12:04AM
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JWoods
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will be best
Jul 27 2012 2:12AM
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JWoods
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Not trying to /claim but /claim several time this year while scoping urban spots in SLC we stumbled up on them filming for the movie. The urban is fuuuuckkked and Dale went ham so get ready
Jul 27 2012 2:16AM
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faux_real
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this ain't new for PBP. they've been doing corny themes with athlete interviews over (Reasons) and over (EDIAS). Casual nailed it in his description above, and David Foster Wallace nailed it even harder in "How Tracy Austin Broke my Heart."
Jul 27 2012 2:43AM
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