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Cuban grab?

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Mr.Bishop
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The splash page today claims a cuban grab... I have yet to hear of this until today.

Though.... I like it. Good name, and the body positioning in the photo definitely does it for me. I would personally just call this a tail grab, but I'm curious to hear what you guys think makes it specifically deserve a new name... or if you've all heard of it and I'm just out of the loop.

I'm tempted to say I back it.

Jun 28 2012 12:10AM
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Bi-ShredinalGuy
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I like it. Tail grabs in general are getting so diverse that we need to start categorizing them a little better.
Jun 28 2012 12:12AM
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danbrown
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cubans have been around, its just the other blunt
Jun 28 2012 12:14AM
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PJS.
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Are we moving through the smoking implements grab naming phase?
Jun 28 2012 12:14AM
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Mr.Bishop
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Like blunt is outside hand outside ski -

Cuban is outside hand inside ski?

Jun 28 2012 12:15AM
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eheath
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Yeah, that picture is almost a stale tho. right hand on left hand tail is a cuban and vise versa. But, usually people will cross them up a little. A stale is right hand left ski but down between the tip and binding, so you and really tweak it out and that has parallel skis.
Jun 28 2012 12:18AM
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Mr.Bishop
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I mega back parallel skis.

Jun 28 2012 12:19AM
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james6345789
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hahaha
Jun 28 2012 12:29AM
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McLeod
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el cubano
Jun 28 2012 1:01AM
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1337
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which was is he spinning?
Jun 28 2012 1:04AM
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RockNRollNghtClb
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swisher.
Jun 28 2012 1:04AM
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Slowbro
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uncrossed stalefish? I asked a few people about this a while ago and everyone said either cuban or stale fish.
Jun 28 2012 1:09AM
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McLeod
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left
Jun 28 2012 1:17AM
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Paul.Marik
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yea thats a cuban. slightly related: the crazy grab that dale does in a lot of his cork 7s are crossed lead cubans. 
Jun 28 2012 1:19AM
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ThunderousFilms
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https://vimeo.com/33091071 cuban at :50
Jun 28 2012 1:27AM
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eheath
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its the same thing, cuban, his skis are just crossed.
Jun 28 2012 1:39AM
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danbrown
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theres no difference between crossed and uncrossed blunts, besides the fact that your skis are crossed or uncrossed. blunt just infers true tail, likewise with cuban and opposite true tail.
Jun 28 2012 1:42AM
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eheath
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Meh, not really, i hate when people rename grabs for when you cross and dont cross cause 75% of the time you are trying to cross but just dont, or vise versa. Right hand to left tail and left hand to right hand tail in any way is a cuban. If you go down the ski towards the binding, its a stale, which are always parallel (a cross stale would be mad hard/look mad weird)
Jun 28 2012 1:44AM
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jerm
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its a tail grab. do it on the tail. you can add on a leading trailing when the hands are switched. in that picture how much different/more or less difficult than grabbing on the other ski. he learned uncrossed tail grabs, then said hey what if i grab the other tail. same thing.
Jun 28 2012 1:52AM
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FerrisBueller
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opp blunt
Jun 28 2012 1:54AM
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B.Taillefer
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Stalefishs are always uncrossed Joe!
Jun 28 2012 2:20AM
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KillaSteeze
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haha im likin' in
Jun 28 2012 2:55AM
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Melvs
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I do believe Alex Balsen had something to do with naming the grab the Cuban, pre-Wicked era?
Jun 28 2012 9:55AM
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L.G.P.
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clayton vila does that a lot
Jun 28 2012 9:57AM
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Newschool_Pope
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A Walk in the Park - Tom Wallisch from Jiberish on Vimeo.




01:46 thought its just an opp blunt...
Jun 28 2012 10:26AM
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DUKES
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well there is already the blunt. so we are calling the opp blunt a cuban....case closed
Jun 28 2012 10:35AM
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Slowbro
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nope look at clayton vila.
Jun 28 2012 10:54AM
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deet
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he does cubans/opp blunts..
Jun 28 2012 11:24AM
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ForeverYung
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Someone needs to write an official book on this stuff
Jun 28 2012 11:28AM
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dbchili
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this thread is all about future grabs
Jun 28 2012 11:34AM
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Slowbro
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as far as I care they are interchangeable, and one in the same, crossed or uncrossed.
Jun 28 2012 11:51AM
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L.G.P.
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thats all there is to it...doesnt matter if its crossed or not
Jun 28 2012 12:00PM
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eheath
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lol did you just say an opp blunt is a cuban?
Jun 28 2012 12:17PM
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Slowbro
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shit thats not what I meant, I only intended stale and cuban.
Jun 28 2012 12:35PM
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jensen
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OK:

Left Spin, Right Hand, Right Tail = Blunt
Left Spin, Left Hand, Left Tail = Leading/Opposite Blunt
Left Spin, Right Hand, Left Tail = Cuban
Left Spin, Left Hand, Right Tail - Leading/Opposite Cuban

Vice versa for right side. If you go cuban and grab between tail and binding (not true tail) it is a stalefish. If you go blunt and grab between tail and binding (not true tail) it is a tindy or whever you want to call it (doesn't matter because it is a gay grab). Any questions?
Jun 28 2012 2:27PM
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roddy116
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i would call that a true blunt
Jun 28 2012 2:43PM
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jksl
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ahhh melvs, so very right.

there's a real nice 5 cuban in his segment in wicked...but yea he was doing them even before that i believe.

balsen was just ahead of the game, was such an awesome skier.
Jun 28 2012 3:50PM
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Melvs
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I feel vindicated, a ski god has verified my claim!


This is the shot:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhzZzzhFd44&feature=player_detailpage#t=1562s

Jun 28 2012 5:54PM
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Bateman
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stalefish?
Jun 28 2012 6:28PM
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frogz
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You are not a SKIER, so how the hell would you know what you're talking about? get outta here. it is kinda a lot harder to grab cuban than blunt. serious precision.

and for anyone who's never heard of a cuban, where have you been? they have literally existed under that name as long as blunts have been around.
Jun 28 2012 6:49PM
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whipple
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whoever said opp blunt and cuban are the same is way wrong. norm and opp blunt just depends on what way your spinning, cuban and stale are completely different grabs
Jun 28 2012 11:14PM
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heFF
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cubans have beeeen around
Jun 29 2012 2:18AM
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Holte
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always referred to it as lead tail.
Jun 29 2012 4:23AM
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I_Am_Mod
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cool ! learned something new today :) i thought that it was all just referred to as blunt or true tail
Jun 29 2012 10:50AM
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Bateman
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isnt blunt/true tail just a tail where your hand is at the very tip of the tail?
Jun 29 2012 11:45AM
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icon1234
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lol so were now calling opp blunt, cuban now? We need to have continuing education classes for the progression of ski trick names.
Jun 29 2012 12:18PM
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icon1234
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whoops, read a post of someone who was wrong and now got me confused now =/.
Jun 29 2012 12:20PM
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Kebec
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opp blunt, just he does it so well and crosses it really clearly
Jun 29 2012 12:38PM
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