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First of all, i have owned one, the headtube snapped it was warrantied promptly, and i sold it to someone who cracked the seatube. I had it on a float WITH propedal, and it was a pain in the ass to even ride it on flat for more than a mile WITH clipless. If you want a bike BUILT for all mtn then get a bitch or enduro. Sure you could put a full XTR set with a fox float+brain on a Demo 8 II, that does not make it good for cross country you fucking idiot. It has nothing to do with how big of a pussy you are if you want a decent bike suitable for your riding aspect.