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No Style? Bullshit!

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CrotchKiller
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style/stīl/
Noun:
A manner of doing something.


style/stīl/
Noun:
A manner of doing something.


style/stīl/
Noun:
A manner of doing something.


style/stīl/
Noun:
A manner of doing something.

Thats an incredibly broad definition for a word. Style is a manner of doing something. That same thing can be done in so many different ways and interpreted in just as many different ways. If someone does something that you dont like then you are more keene to a different style. Saying someone has no style is an incredibly dumb statement. You are simply not a fan and supporter of the individuals style. If you can not understand this then you should take a step back and think about it before you accuse someone of "not having" style.

We participate in a sport that is so open to interpretation and this is going to help create so many different styles. Everyone of us is doing the same thing, we are just not doing it in the same manner.

This is my one serious response to these dumb threads because i am sick of people being so uneducated and ignorant. So tired of people hating on the sport we all love.

Have fun out there kids, skiing is the greatest sport out there, simply because of how open ended it is.

I originally wrote this as a response but i feel like more people should read and understand it.
Apr 29 2012 9:34PM
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IanAvery-Leaf
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thank you, the "_______ has no style" threads piss me off
Apr 29 2012 9:36PM
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.RYAN66
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one of your best posts by far!


everyone has a different style, and it is something that someone has no matter what. just because someone disagrees with my style doesnt mean I dont have style.
Apr 29 2012 9:37PM
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D_Smith
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Couldnt have said it any better myself.

Apr 29 2012 9:38PM
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broto
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someone can have a "bad" style however. a bad manner of doing something.
Apr 29 2012 9:47PM
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Bi-ShredinalGuy
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This thread is solid gold. Thank you
Apr 29 2012 9:49PM
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CrotchKiller
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no, someone can do something in a manner you dont like. There is no set point for basing style, its available for interpretation by each individual.
Apr 29 2012 9:51PM
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uosdwiSrjewoH
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i'm not a fan of the whole, pomo, everything is subjective, there is no right and wrong blahblahblah. while there is certainly some wiggle room for opinion, there definitely is some room for right and wrong, good and bad. some things are better then others. while saying something like "bobby brown has no style" is obviously not true, even if you don't like it (which i think would have more to do with someone's bobby brown himself than his style) saying a flaily double cork 16 isn't stylish is completely ok with me. at a certain point, anyone that's informed can see if something is clearly not good looking.
Apr 29 2012 9:52PM
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RJ_Res
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Manner is the key word here. You have bad manner, you have bad/no style.
Apr 29 2012 9:53PM
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CrotchKiller
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if you dont like a flailed dub cork 16 then your not a fan of his style. Doesn't mean everyone feels the same way you do. I totally see where your coming from. I see things in skiing that i love and some things i hate, but thats my opinion and my interpretation of skiing. Its in individualistic sport and i think thats what some people fail to understand.
Apr 29 2012 9:56PM
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CrotchKiller
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no
Apr 29 2012 9:56PM
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broto
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yes.


over the years, we as freeskiers have developed several different things that give you "good" style. "good" style looks good to us because it is hard to do and therefore impressive. not flailing our arms, being generally smooth, holding grabs, and landing perfectly are all examples of good style, which again is based on the fact that they are difficult. things like flailing your arms show that you are uncomfortable and not very poised doing the trick. grabbing is why a mute 12 is much more impressive than a pencil 12. it adds difficulty, it shows that you are comfortable with the trick you are doing.



why is it considered good style to land bolts on a skateboard? it shows you can land an impressive trick comfortably and were in control the whole time. it is obviously better than a bumfuck hobo skater landing on his tail and almost slipping out on a kickflip because it is harder to do.


style is subject to opinion, but only marginally.
Apr 29 2012 10:04PM
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Puzzled
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Style is one thing, control is another.
Apr 29 2012 10:08PM
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CrotchKiller
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no disputing that
Apr 29 2012 10:10PM
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saskskierftw
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Quality posts in here. Except this post, this post is shitty...
Apr 29 2012 10:11PM
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AGOF
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i like this thread

Apr 29 2012 10:12PM
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broto
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yes there is.



ahhhhhhh fuck this i feel like i am getting trolled.


style comes from but is not limited to having good control over your entire body when doing tricks. which is why i think nick goepper has somewhat bad style, his arms are all over the place.
Apr 29 2012 10:13PM
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CrotchKiller
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defiantly some good points in here that i can agree on, but i think there are some point in my OP you can agree on as well.
Apr 29 2012 10:13PM
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CrotchKiller
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^i know what town you live in, its not that big, i will find you and rape you
Apr 29 2012 10:19PM
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broto
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yes, i do agree with some points in the OP. i just don't believe style is COMPLETELY subjective. there are different good styles (i.e. max hill to tom wallisch to bobby brown to henrik harluat) and there are different bad styles and not every person's good or bad style is exactly the same. and this can be agreed upon between basically everybody who has an understanding of style in our sport.
Apr 29 2012 10:22PM
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CrotchKiller
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i cant really tell if your being cereal or not
Apr 29 2012 10:23PM
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Puzzled
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Yes you are. You are saying its all subjective, there is absolutely no right or wrong style, but if we get technical with the way our muscles work and how we can use them to maximize ease, there are certainly better way to do a trick, carve, land, you name it.

Yes the slight hand placement, gesture, is basically style, but a GOOD style is something personal we can apply over a GOOD general control and air awareness of our body. So yes, if I see a kid throwing his first double flip and its whack as fuck, I can definitely label it as a double with bad style. Maybe he had his personal body position on it, but the control ain't there.

Easy example 3:14


Is that a landing with GOOD style. Definitely. It ain't your classic afterbang, but you can tell its controlled and he's holding that switch stance damn hard even with such a tweak of his body.

Apr 29 2012 10:27PM
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ilikefood
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For the sake of argument:

The word 'bitch' is defined as a female dog, wolf, fox, or otter. But people on NS usually don't use 'bitch' in that type of context.


/context is key.
Apr 29 2012 10:28PM
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CrotchKiller
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im arguing style, your arguing control. I think the two are similar but you say yourself "Style is one thing, control is another." so not really sure what your getting at.
Apr 29 2012 10:35PM
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Puzzled
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Ya in my first post I red the thread quickly and thought people were mixing them up, but then I gave it another read and saw your post saying style can't be good or bad so I objected.
Apr 29 2012 10:44PM
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CrotchKiller
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Fair enough, i see where you are coming from.
I do agree that control is defiantly necessary. I guess what im saying is there are so many different styles, styles where people are completely in control but they differ so much. There are people who take the same tricks in different extremes while still maintaining constant control.
I dont know if that makes sense. Let me know if it doesn't i can try and explain it differently.
Apr 29 2012 10:48PM
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swagburg
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Bobby and Geopper are perfect examples of this. so can we stop saying they have bad style?
Apr 29 2012 10:51PM
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swagburg
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^^and geoppers switch dub 14 at dew tour was a one time thing, so dont complain about how he flails his arms everywhere.
Apr 29 2012 10:54PM
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maynaiseman
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"It's not that my style is bad, it's that my style is ....bad"
Apr 29 2012 10:54PM
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broto
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style includes but is not limited to those things, at least for me.
Apr 29 2012 11:02PM
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jerm
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To me someone can only have bad style when theyre forcing a certain style. when youre trying super hard to do tricks a certain way and look a certain way it looks awful. everyone should learn to just do the tricks the way their body and mind wants to do it and go with that.
Apr 29 2012 11:13PM
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LeoSpaceman
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op has no style
and a sandy vagina


someone said my favorite pro has no style! THAT CAN'T BE TRUE!!!!!!!
Apr 30 2012 3:32PM
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CrotchKiller
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you wanna lick the sand out for me?

but you could never guess my favorite pro champ.
Apr 30 2012 3:34PM
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SpliffyJ
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So much props to you.
Apr 30 2012 4:10PM
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Lolocaust.
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FUCK YOU, BDOGG IS THE BEST CUZ HE LANDS SO NICELY AND LISTENS TO WUTANG. BOBBY AND GOEPPER ARE GAYYY CAUSE THEY DO FUTURESPINS AND LISTEN TO NICKELBACK.
Apr 30 2012 4:14PM
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Karma_Police
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I like Goepper's style more than B dogs.

Said it, deal with it.
Apr 30 2012 4:42PM
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Toaster-Tony
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i laughed.
Apr 30 2012 4:58PM
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Brock.
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I really like this post. Its a shame that some people can't see the light in what this guy is trying to say...

Unfortunately "Style" in skiing is usually defined by the dominant current trend. In this case, its Henrik Harlaut and Phil Casabon's skiing. Anything else that doesn't conform to what they are doing has no value to most of the NS community.
Apr 30 2012 4:59PM
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PeteP
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Love this thread!

Now NS lets collectively decide which style is best suited to be the top of the podium for years to come...
Apr 30 2012 5:03PM
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bdarb207
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Style comes from doing what you love how you love to do it. If his arms flail and he's diggin it who cares if you're not impressed. I've seen people rolling down the windows doing a 180 down a huge drop and had mad steeZe. You're trying to take the subjective ness out while talking about how style is subjective.
Apr 30 2012 5:19PM
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TheButterHashira
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Haha I lost.
Apr 30 2012 5:22PM
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ChuckTesta
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your one of my favorite members for a reason
Apr 30 2012 5:48PM
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TACO-DOG.exe
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this is why people think ns is the comedy website for skiing. you people are arguing about style.

fuck sakes people....
Apr 30 2012 5:50PM
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jason...
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if you dont think someone can have bad style you're an idiot.
Apr 30 2012 6:28PM
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razors-chaz
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All i have to add to this is, please learn that the word you are looking for when you use defiantly, is definitely. Defiantly=/=definitely
Apr 30 2012 6:44PM
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LeoSpaceman
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i'd assume it's one of the following
Henrik, Casabon, Wallisch
you know, since we're on fucking newschoolers.com
Apr 30 2012 6:55PM
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CrotchKiller
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ill definitely work on that dude
Apr 30 2012 6:56PM
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Puzzled
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You are retarded. What about Dale, Hill, Compton, Parker, SteptKids, Parry, Maximilian, Lucas(superunknown winner), Nikklas, etc. They are all loved on this website because they have personality to their skiing, almost emotion. Watch Bobby Brown ski, I don't feel any personality to his tricks. Just another skier who followed the same cookie cutter pattern learning the basic corks, flip, grabs, sw-up patterns until he knew all of them by heart. Extremely consistent skier, perfect for comps and obviously a crowd pleaser.

As long as he enjoys it, which he probably does, nothing wrong with it. As someone mentioned above, its when people try to force certain styles that things get whack.
Apr 30 2012 6:58PM
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CrotchKiller
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ur gud at reading the whole thread
Apr 30 2012 7:00PM
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LittleFoot
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some people just do it wrong
Apr 30 2012 7:01PM
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LittleFoot
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also, languages change over time. In the context of skiing, style can mean something completely different than what you looked up in the dictionary.
Apr 30 2012 7:04PM
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