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Working out too much?

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saskskierftw
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My friends believe that working out EVERY day of the week is healthier and better for the body than working out 3-4 times a week. In this context, we will define the "workout" to be roughly 1 hour of solid, intense workout. I think it's better for the body to have days off from working out, wherein the muscles can rest. Anyway, we argued about it, and then when I began doing another set of push-ups, they proceeded to sit on my back and also drop medicine balls on my back. Fucking morons.

My friends also think that stretching doesn't help in anything whatsoever. They're actually fucking retarded.

Oh, and they think that skiing sucks.

Should I get new friends? I'm thinking sooo..

And, what's better; 3-4 days of working out per week or 7 solid days of working out?

sparknotes - my friends are fucking morons, and read the two questions above.

Mar 28 2012 8:54PM
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Barefootin_Fiend
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working out 7 days a week is a terrible idea. you NEED at least 1 rest day. this is pretty common knowledge. you also should have 24-48 hours of rest before training the same muscle group again. for instance, don't do arms 2 days in a row. your body needs time to recover, or else you won't see gains.
Mar 28 2012 8:58PM
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alex=
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work 3-4 days a week doing whatever the fuck you want. stretch before and after if you're not mentally retarded.

orrrrrr

work out 7 days a week, alternating workout schedules. upper torso one day, lower and cardio one day, or abs and core or some shit like that. BUT FUCKING ALTERNATE or prepare to feel like shit and not being able to stretch your limbs out straight without pain. and tearing muscles and shit is gay af. so stretch.
Mar 28 2012 9:00PM
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pink[.][.]
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Alternate or else I'll finger you.
Mar 28 2012 9:02PM
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saskskierftw
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this is what i have always believed, but they're fucking morons and think otherwise....
Mar 28 2012 9:03PM
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BrewskiJr
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Working out 7 days a week isn't bad...



as long as you aren't hitting the same muscle groups. It is VERY important to get a days rest before re working each muscle group. As long as he is doing arms and back one day, then maybe shoulders core and legs the other or something, he is fine. Its not idea though. IMO working on a 3 day cycle is perfect when you hit the weights real hard.
Mar 28 2012 9:03PM
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FerrisBueller
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LOL


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Mar 28 2012 9:05PM
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SCOO-WOOP
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You CAN actually work out 7 days a week.

Just make sure that you're not doing intense lifting or anything that really breaks down your muscle 7 days straight.

Plus, rest is just as important as output.

I'm a competitive skier so might be a little much if you're just trying to stay in shape, but it can't hurt...

My schedule right now is:

Day 1: Cardio work. Usually 2-3 miles at a faster pace every time. Currently I'm running a 7 minute mile. Then I work on sprints both forwards and backwards and laterally. I keep a journal and have a buddy time my laps and sprints so I can see if my speed is up to par or if I need to work on it.

Day 2: Upper Body Lifts. I do Crossfit, so I'll go out to the gym or down to Crossfit with an arm intensive WOD in mind. Usually something with kipping pullups, push presses, overhead presses, ring rows, etc.

Day 3: Lower body lifts. Again at CrossFit. I try and choose a WOD from the website or have my coach write one that's more leg intensive. Workouts usually consist of box squats, front squats, back squats, etc.

Day 4: I usually try and mix it up and get out of the gym. I'll go out and play a few games of soccer, or go hiking, mountain biking, skiing if my competitive season is over, etc. Just be active all day, and you'll find that you're more tired after that than you are after a burner at the gym.

Day 5: Rest Day

Day 6: Cardio + party time.

Day 7: Hangover recovery/light core and upper body work.



I'm not saying that you should follow this schedule to a tee. It's just the one that fit's best around my schedule.


Mar 28 2012 9:15PM
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JayDope
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ehh, well im sorta on the fence on this one, for one i do workout out 6 days a week intensely, and on the 7th day i do some cardio, now this is when im training extremely hard, normal training for me is 5 days a week. I train arms, chest, back, shoulders, once a week, and legs twice a week, core training around 3 times a week. Your muscles need about 24-48 hours recovery period, and the "pump" u feel is just edema blood plasma aka transient muscle hypertrophy..this goes away within hours. The whole lactate acid and DOMS relation is untrue, DOMS is soreness from damage to the muscle fibers..lactate acid is good for u, anyone who has taken and ex. phys. class will tell u this, and only time can expell it. And its actually been PROVEN that static stretching pre-workout decreases performance..a more dynamic type of warm up would be more acceptable, and by judging ur friends dropping med balls on u im assuming ur between 16-18 and what is ur idea of an "intense" workout?
Mar 28 2012 9:17PM
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SKI.ING
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For building muscle, 4 days a week is better. For building overall fitness and health I would have to say 7 days a week is fine. Once you're out of high school or whatever your in 7 days a week will be hard to come by anyways so moot point.
Mar 28 2012 9:23PM
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Parks.
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this
Mar 28 2012 9:23PM
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blackmamba.
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on roids, there's no such thing as "too much." you should give 'em a try. in all seriousness though, you need to give your muscles time to sufficiently repair themselves; therefore, 3-4 day splits are usually advised for your average gym rat.
Mar 28 2012 9:28PM
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HitTheJim
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Are you running at a 7 minute mile pace for three miles or just a single 7 minute mile?
Mar 28 2012 9:32PM
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maxgilly
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Mar 28 2012 9:33PM
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hey-dude-its-me
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I have said this and been called wrng so many times on here that I finally gave up glad to get confirmation the most konwledgeable guy
Mar 28 2012 9:34PM
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TallerThanThou
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Better alternate.
Mar 28 2012 9:40PM
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t-roy
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doing bench and curls every day will get you ripped. even twice a day workouts are good.
Mar 28 2012 9:44PM
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JayDope
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there are many research studies to back it up, one of my professors has researched it as well
Mar 28 2012 11:24PM
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californiagrown
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conversely there are studies showing post workout static stretching has zero effect of recovery capacity, whihc goes contrary to popular opinion.



But, to answer OP's question. While you are going through puberty and for a few years after, you are essentially on steroids, with the amount of Testosterone and HGH coursing through you. So, once your work capacity is up, take advantage of this and bust your ass. As long as you take a deload week every couple months, it is really hard to overtrain an athlete at this age.


*i am strictly speaking about overtraining your CNS(which is generally what people are talking about). Overtraining a bodypart is still very possible, so make sure your programming is on point.
Mar 28 2012 11:39PM
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JayDope
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there was no mention of static stretching post training.
Mar 28 2012 11:43PM
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Z-Juice
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Cardio is ideal 7x a week and like other people are saying just dont do intense workouts on the same muscle groups back to back
Mar 28 2012 11:44PM
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InFlames
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He doesn't listen very well. I learned this a while ago. Furthermore he doesn't read links or watch videos you post to counter arguments.
Mar 28 2012 11:44PM
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GayWolf420
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Actually might consider using your formula, sir.
Mar 28 2012 11:45PM
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californiagrown
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thought id throw out that tid bit of info, seeing as how stretching was a topic being discussed. im sorry my post was unacceptable to you.
Mar 28 2012 11:45PM
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JayDope
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he is def one of the most knowledgeable people on this site for sure about working out and training, i was just saying that there wasnt any mention on what he said, maybe he misread it
Mar 28 2012 11:46PM
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goonsquad08
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took classes about kinesiology all last semester. and we did a study on this kind of.

The studied showed that working out a moderate amount (3 days a week) made your body much healthier compared to working out like once a week or not at all. In comparison, working out a substantial amount (7 days a week) only gave you very little gains in health compared to the moderate amount of exercise.

Since they dont believe in stretching or rest, I assume they are not giving their bodies appropriate attention and rest. So I conclude that they are making their bodies, not muscles, weaker and less healthy than if they would listen to their bodies and give them rest or the necessary care.

sparknotes: given your friends' douche bag type actions, you are right and they are wrong.

Mar 28 2012 11:47PM
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JayDope
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oh right on then, i just thought u misread my post or something
Mar 28 2012 11:47PM
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pmw
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you dont wanna stick your finger up there....trust me
Mar 28 2012 11:49PM
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saskskierftw
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Holy shit. So many good thoughts being thrown around. I will +k everyone once I am off of mobile. To answer the one guys question; I am 16. Another thing that I forget to mention is; these kids do nearly the exact same workout everyday.
Mar 28 2012 11:53PM
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Joshua.
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i lift 4 days a week, but work out 6 days.

Mon - Chest/tris
Tues - Back/bis
weds - legs
thurs - shoulders
fri - day off
saturday - cardio
sun - skiing
Mar 29 2012 1:00AM
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Anathema
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you just want a weeks rest between muscle groups. working out every day aint bad since most people will have days where they do arms, legs, chest, back, shoulders, core, cardio. just rotate through it and you're fine. a good diet goes a long way, too.
Mar 29 2012 1:21AM
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Billups
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They are idiots. Find new workout partners.
Mar 29 2012 1:38AM
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theabortionator
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Does your couch look like this

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Or does it look like this?


















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Mar 29 2012 1:40AM
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Radio
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solid 7
Mar 29 2012 1:41AM
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theabortionator
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Does your couch look like this

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Or does it look like this?


















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Fucking ns thumbnail codes and late nights
Mar 29 2012 1:41AM
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Mr.Gaga
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Why are you working out?
Mar 29 2012 1:56AM
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californiagrown
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Fucking
Fighting
Freeskiing



Helps tremendously in all 3
Mar 29 2012 2:13AM
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SCOO-WOOP
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I'm running a 7 minute mile pace for 2-3 miles depending on how I feel.

Sometimes if I'm feeling lazy or I'm sick I'll only run 1-2 as close to a sprinting pace as possible so it makes up for the lack of distance.



And Theron, I'm glad you like my formula. Tell me how it works out for you!
Mar 29 2012 12:27PM
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seward
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inb4 technojackedpotamus
Mar 29 2012 12:47PM
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SKI.ING
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So full of incorrect information. Please disregard this post.
Apr 4 2012 2:44AM
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Loco-Deer-Slayer
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How the fuck do all you guys only have one day for legs? I find that the most demanding part of the body and have to split it up into two days (quads/hamstrings). Upper body is weak sauce compared to lower.
Apr 4 2012 3:15AM
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Oldmann1584
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didn't read any posts on here but

ur friends are fucking idiots, when u sleep, you grow muscle, when u rest, you grow muscle thats where u ACTUALLY grow the muscle, not in the gym...

that being said i work out 7 days a week HOWEVER on my rest day i do core/cardio and i have a 5 day rotation therefore i don't work the same muscle until 5 days after, which is okay.
Apr 4 2012 5:10AM
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Velocirooster
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If thats you in your profile picture then please, finger me
Apr 4 2012 9:04AM
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no_steeze
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7 days a week is fine if youre doing cardio every day and alternating muscle groups

whenever i'm working out 7 days and lifting which i don't usually do i'll do cardio every other day and abs after cardio and then on lifting days i alternate muscle groups

you should take at least 1 day off or 1 day of a different muscle group before returning to the first one, otherwise you are more prone to injury and you aren't allowing your muscles time to heal. i row and even the most intense training schedules allow us 1 day off a week from training, even if we're rowing 2-3 times a day for 6 days a week. your body does need a day to regroup and be ready for the next week, otherwise you worry about overtraining
Apr 4 2012 9:10AM
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hey-dude-its-me
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haha Im gonna be at risk of over training my neck after seeing that movie warrior
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Apr 4 2012 10:12AM
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no_steeze
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big traps are an easy way to always look bigger than you actually are
Apr 4 2012 11:38AM
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hey-dude-its-me
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well yea but, this shit doesn't come easy:
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Apr 4 2012 11:42AM
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no_steeze
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oh fuck no they're some of the hardest muscles to define but when people do they automatically look huge
Apr 4 2012 11:45AM
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Heart
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Static stretching pre-workout is terrible for you. It makes your muscles weaker and more likely to get injured. Dynamic stretching is what helps. The only time static stretching is acceptable is post-workout, and even then it's helpfulness is questionable.
Apr 4 2012 11:45AM
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hey-dude-its-me
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true
Apr 4 2012 11:47AM
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ECB
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I work my cock out 7 days a week, and it's STI free as of December
Apr 4 2012 11:49AM
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