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Fully Cambered Skis in Deep Powder?

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AbernathySkier
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I'm on my first year skiing. I got pretty good at groomers/park/carving/jumps pretty fast.
I am 5'9 and have 180cm (taller than I am) fully cambered 09 Rossi s3's mounted DEAD/CORE center.
I tried skiing them in powder today, and it was very difficult--almost to the point of not being fun.
It was really hard to make turns and I was almost always knee deep in snow, just not having any control over my skis. They were totally buried and wanted to pizza or duck-foot constantly when I tried to turn.

I need to know whether skis with rocker are a million times easier to ski in powder.
Or do I just suck? I could keep a straight line perfectly, but I had a really hard time turning.

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Cotter
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buy afterbangs, theyre probably the best pow ski out there. just ask andy parry.
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AbernathySkier
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Come on...
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Lucas
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you suck i had to ski 166cm chronics, dead center in pow for a year and i was 5'8
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itsgarrett
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It's your first time skiing deep powder, don't get down on yourself. Keep your tips up, and make quick short turns, I also recommend watching some powder skiing videos. Good luck in the future.
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m-tang
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I have 181 Suspects, full camber, center mounted, and they skied good enough in powder. But then again I've been skiing my whole life so...

Powder takes getting used to.

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Che~
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it takes a while to get fully comfortable when skiing pow, just keep going at it
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Bloc_chain
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center mounted skis in pow are the problem, they just do not work. you have far to much tail that ends up dragging and hooking when trying to turn, that is why there are sooooo few pow skis that are designed with a center mount. unless you are hitting booters and landing switch over 50% of the time, it will only hinder the ski's performance
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freestyler540
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you suck

take ski lessons

save yourself the trouble of looking like an ass
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extravert
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I used 110 waist rockered skis and 80 waist center mounted park skis this year. For fun I would switch between them, and the transition was tough. After a few runs though I could ski comfortably on either one in deep snow. If you learn to ski pow on skinny skis you will be 100 times better whenever you get rocker
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Pineal
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Rockered skis are way better for powder thats why most powder skis are rockered. It helps to let you float across the powder and stay above it instead of sinking under or getting your tips stucks under
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D_War
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Skiing in deep snow is not just something you will be good at right away especially if you have not been skiing very long at all. Additionally skiing a powder ski that is much wider underfoot, rockered/early rise etc., and not center mounted will let you float on the snow and everything will be a lot easier. Before you buy them see if you can set up a demo pair for a powder day.
Good Luck.
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FUUUCK
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When you ski hard pack you alternate pressure side to side are you make turns. When you ski pow you keep pressure relatively even on both skis, if not you experience the duck footing you mentioned.

Rockered skis do make it easier, that being said my K2 Made'n Aks ride like a dream in soft snow and they have no rocker.

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USA
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Skiing the groomers to the park does not make you a good skier. It sounds like you just don't know how to ski and you were on like a 5 degree slope.
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djstasevich
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without having rocker you gotta keep those feet a bit closer and use your knees to lift-turn-and reapply pressure in a new direction. Some might just call this Old School, but its how i had to learn... Now i have pontoons!
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Drail
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I miss those skis. Made a bench out of them. They were my first legit pow ski, and one of the coolest graphics ever.
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VD.
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True my first experiences of skiing powder I was on a pair of borrowed skis around 80 waist, it was waist deep blow pow and I friggen loved it because that's all I knew then when I got on rockered skis 6 months later I had no idea why I had so much fun that first day ... there's nothing like skiing blower pow that's all I can say

inb4 cool story bro
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TheWakes.
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while rocker will make pow skiing better, more width underfoot will help as well.
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Montana_Hoodrat
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skinny skis in the pow is still better than rockered skis on ice.
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250r
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if you include early rise skis as rockered than thats definitely not true, my bibby pros rip on icy groomers...skiing my old trouble makers in pow, now thats a different story
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Dr.Gnar
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Exactly, having camber with rocker is ideal and still rips ice. Flat camber and full reverse camber...not so much. Bibby Pro's do shred anything like mad. And regarding the center-mount pow ski comment...my Opus are near center mounted, -2cm from true center, but they do not hook up very much because 1) The tails are wide and don't dig, 2) there is the same rocker in the tail as up front, and 3) they are 118mm underfoot so they always surf of top damn well anyways
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p-fo
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It does make it easier, but keep using the park skis. I used park skis in pow for years and still had tons of fun. Plus it made me a better skier. Really the only thing rocker helps with is heavy snow and landing tricks.
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alden.
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Fulltilts?
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Casual.
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skiing pow is just different than groomers. takes time to learn. my first year of skiing was on chronics and i was able to ski pow pretty well once i got good enough. not even close to as fun as skiing on real powder skis, but do able i guess.
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heFF
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big rockered skis can be fun when center mounted in real fluffy deep snow or hitting booters, cliffs, etc...I'm on a 110 cambered ski that is mounted back a few cm from center and skiing pow is a breeze...by having my bindings mounted back from center..it allows the tails to sink a bit more and let the nose float..that with the combination of a 110 underfoot really helps your rip through pow!
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Dr.Gnar
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Wrong. Shane McConkey would have beat you over the head with a saucer.
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Gnarwall
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Just do some situps and don't be a bitch.
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Dr.Gnar
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And let's be honest, hooking is also a result of riding backseat like a noob. If you ski well it rarely ever happens at all.
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jca
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i shred my fully cambered 190 moment rubys from time to time in the pow and they kill it.
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STAUSS
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yeaa dude shred on those for a big, get real good on them and then when you get a pair of rockered skis you'll be cruisin. 
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STAUSS
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for a bit*
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SelenaGomez
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Honestly, it seemed easier when I just embraced the fact that there was no way I could float, and I just sort of plowed it, trying to edge underneath. Should I keep at it, leaning forward over my toes, purposely sinking my tips?
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doitbig
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what everyone else said...and too add there's a huge difference between DEAD CENTER and CORE CENETER.  Dead center = center of ski (true center), core center = reccomended mount point.
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Finstad
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Speed is the key to good powder turns. Its almost imposible to ski smooth in pow with low speed. Find a easy line, go fast. As you evolve find harder lines. Thats my tip for you my friend
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Static
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the horror!

srsly tho that's what pow skiing is............... you can get fat ass skis and turn the powder into hard park then have fun carving turns on top of the pow(make 10 inches feel like 3, awesome for places where it snows too much), b/c why on earth would you want to get deep in it, gross keep that nasty pow off your face. +, your entire ski career rests on landing BFA in the BC you need WIDEst skis. Plus+ on big ass skis that are hard to turn you can just rip it super fast and people will think you're Darrel Rhaveleslberry.
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Dr.Gnar
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If you have skinny or center mounted skis for deep pow you need to use OLD school pre-McConkey technique which is "bounce turning" where you really lift your legs up through each turn in order to get the skis on top of the pow. NEW school powder skiing involves very wide skis, and more or less eliminates the need for such exaggerated knee-to-chest turns. Fat powder skis, at speed, stay on top, and let you SURF on the surface, with the tips rarely submerging.
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Tent
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I found it hard. I'm from Ontario and I went to whister for march break and skied pow for the 1st time. It was knee/wait deep every where and u was having alot if trouble. I was on moment Reno jibs that were center mounted (86 underfoot). I fell ALOT. To not fall I had to tail butter the while run. The last day I rented S7's and it was 100x to ski deep pow because my tips never went under (that was why I kept falling the few days before). It was much easier to land drops and u didn't have to lean back at all.
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Tent
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Sorry for shitty spelling. I'm on mobile.
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Goku
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I have Icelantic Shaman's.
They are a fully cambered powder ski and they FUCKING RIP
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p-fo
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Quick tip: lean forward but flex your toes upward. Helps keep your tips from hooking as badly.
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Karma_Police
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I do like ruby's.  GOD DAMN do they stomp.
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JsNeagle
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dirty.
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its tough to ski pow with ski mounted dead center, especially if youve never skied pow before. remount them a few CMs back
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Ac31stuff
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next pow day demo some pow skis and see if that makes a difference
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