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The Elusive ONE SKI QUIVER- Questions.

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Farquaharson
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Hey guys (and ski bunnies),

I'm currently set up reeeaaal nice with a pair of moment jib rockers and k2 hellbents. Not complaining. Unfortunately (fortunately?), I really really want to start skinning and getting into the backcountry next year and my hellbents don't have AT bindings. So here's my thought- sell current skis, buy new skis and throw on some AT bindings with all the profit I acquire from my current skis.

So the basic question of the thread is- what is a good one ski quiver ski that shreds everywhere, has no problem in the park, but is a little more weighted towards powder?

My current thought is snagging the Pettitors next year and throwing some Dukes on them...THOUGHTS?
Feb 11 2012 10:36PM
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PJS.
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You wanna ski park with AT bindings?
Feb 11 2012 10:43PM
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RudyGarmisch
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Jeffrey.
Feb 11 2012 10:48PM
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Kreech
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Take what kellen or rowen said, but take out the dukes and add on either the new guardian 16 or a fks-equipped alltime plate from mfd and you're good to go.
Feb 12 2012 2:50AM
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Kreech
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Yeah I'm thinking of either picking up a pair of 191 caylors or Billy goats next season or the one after, and I'm definitely looking into the guardian and the alltime, especially the guardian though. Both sound sweet.
Feb 12 2012 3:05AM
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Farquaharson
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what kind of price difference would there be between going for a straight AT binding like the Guardian and opting for the Alltime Plate?
Feb 12 2012 4:22AM
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Farquaharson
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Also, I just took a look at the Jeffrey's on the ON3P site....LOOKS PRETTY MUCH PERFECT. Can anyone vouch for how solid of a ski it is? How stiff? Comparable to something like the Line Blend?
Feb 12 2012 4:27AM
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Caveman.
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I ski Jeffreys as my daily go to ski. They are solid all over the mountain, pow, ice, moguls, park jumps all in one run no problem. I have not skied the Blend but they are stiffer than a Bacon and have a rounder flex. The bamboo/carbon fiber combo makes for a very fun, lively ski too.
Feb 12 2012 5:17AM
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Farquaharson
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When you talk about the bamboo/carbon fiber combo, you're referring to the Jeffrey, correct?
Feb 12 2012 5:34AM
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.ZT.
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check and salomon 2012 skis
Feb 12 2012 8:32AM
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DUKES
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Caylor with MFD alltimes
Feb 12 2012 10:04AM
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Kreech
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The guardians I think are going to be somewhere between $300 and $400. The alltimes come in at $300 but then you have to throw bindings on them. It all depends on what you want. Save a little weight and have them still ski terrific? Go guardian. Want to basically tour on fks, but have a slightly heavier setup? Mfd. There'll be a SLIGHT difference in performance, going up weighted towards guardians, going down weighted towards alltimes. If you're going completely balls out off of huge ass cliffs on the regular, dish out the extra coin for the fks-alltime combo. If not, save the money and get guardians; they'll still ski plenty burly.
Feb 12 2012 12:56PM
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belden...
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Go with mfd's dukes are heavy as shit
Feb 12 2012 2:04PM
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belden...
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Or you could keep your skis and get the quiver killer inserts
Feb 12 2012 2:05PM
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SteezoSaurus
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Yea true, but the MFD can be managable with the right binding. The Duke is good for slackcountry, but the Alltime is a bit more trustable when your deep in the bc
Feb 12 2012 2:45PM
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RudyGarmisch
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I kind of am the opinion that your setup weight is irrelevant. If its heavy, hike more and get your legs stronger. It would matter if I did huge multiday tours, but if I was doing that I'd be on a superlight Dynafit setup instead. This is slackcountry and three hour tours we're mostly talking about, I'd rather have a solid binding on the way down than two less pounds going up.
Feb 12 2012 2:58PM
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Farquaharson
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Ginko is right for sure, I'm only really going to be dealing with slackcountry skiing, no real week long expeditions. Guardians sound fine. And just because my local shop only sells marker bindings... would you guys make a strong argument against getting Dukes instead of Guardians?
Feb 12 2012 5:24PM
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Twig
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If you really have to do it all on one ski, inserts and two sets of bindings seem the only realistic option to me. No touring setup is going to hold up to the abuse of park riding for that long. And who wants to tour or even be in the BC in mixed conditions on skis with park edges?
For me a one ski quiver is just about workable if you don't want to tour. I'm happy with my SFBs in all situations thus far but throwing touring in to the equation makes it impossible.
Feb 12 2012 5:54PM
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84west
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You will probably be able to pick up a pair of dukes on discount at the end of the year, and supporting your local shop is also good
Feb 12 2012 9:32PM
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arammell
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If you want to be serious about AT then you could look at the Dynaduke or Dynalook and give yourself the best of both worlds.  Obviously not the cheapest of options, but it would let you ski a Dynafit Radical on BC days and FKS or Look on resort days. 

http://bindingfreedom.com/DynaDuke-Swap-Plates-1001.htm
Feb 12 2012 11:40PM
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Kreech
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For dukes vs guardians, the way I see it is that the guardians are basically just a way better, more updated version of the duke. They're lower to your skis, they've got less slop, you don't have to step out to change into AT mode, there are more metal components, and you don't have to worry quite as much about ice build up. If they cost a similar amount, why WOULDN'T you get the guardian? Just order online and have your shop mount them up.
Feb 13 2012 1:24AM
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Farquaharson
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So the Guardian really is a superior binding to the Duke then...shit. I just hate not supporting my local shop at all. If I went and got some Jeffreys and then bought some Guardians on the side....ugh. Doesn't really reflect well when I bring those into my shop to get mounted up. I dunno, obviously this shouldn't be that big of a deal, after all it is MY SKI that we're talking about. But the guy gives me deals on everything and free demos and tune ups and mounts and treats me like gold all the time... #whitepeopleproblems
Feb 13 2012 1:59AM
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JacheOReally
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Line (motherfucking) Influence (motherfucking) 105


Greatest 1 ski quiver ski ever made....
Feb 13 2012 2:42AM
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Farquaharson
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Yeah but.....I mean......look at your icon.....








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Feb 13 2012 3:11AM
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wrichmond
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Fat-ypus I-Rock

I ride them mounted with Dukes and ride the ski everywhere, including the park.
Far stiffer than Hellbent, but still a medium flex, so it can does Rock all conditions.

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Feb 13 2012 11:35AM
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