ESPN asking to use my video

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well, its not really an edit. its the video of the urban rail skier. it has gone viral. it was on g4 and i've gotten 3 offers so far from companies for a non exclusive license. so i understand and know the definition.

In the email she just asked if she had permission to use it, which means that they did not want to go through the legal trouble of creating a contract, think I am dumb and don't know what a license means, or just wants to harmlessly use it and give credit to me.

I emailed her back and added that I would like to talk about a non exclusive license.

She did say she wanted to use it today, so I hope she still wants it tomorrow.

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"Hi Mike. We do not have a budget for this but we can credit your name or whatever you wish over the video. This was scheduled to run shortly. If you are ok with a name credit, let me know and I will pass this on to our producer. Nicole"
the response^

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we said screw it. it is supposed to be on Not top 10 on sportscenter

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I.B

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Can you post the video?

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it hasn't aired on espn yet, just watched the live not top 10. heres the video

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sneds

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Didn't you post a thread wanting your video to go viral?

Can't get more views out of it then having espn play it

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Normally I'd say just run with it. That much exposure couldn't be bad- except in this case, nobody is really going to watch it and say "damn, I want to hire that kid filming!" so it really won't do much for you. I say you do one of two things...

- try to get the money. If they don't offer to pay up, just don't give it to them.

- fuck with them hard. If they refuse to pay, just tell them "oh, ok, if you're ok I'll just add my name to it and then you can use it." and write your name across the entire frame. Or add some stupid ass effects from movie maker or put the website of a rival sports broadcaster or something

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Jeff_Lo

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Exactly, email FSN or VS.

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I.B

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I'm in school and can't see the video. SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT IT IS OF. GOOD HOLY GOD I WANT TO KNOW.

And yeah, FUCK TEH SHIT OUT OF ESPN

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Brentizzle

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its the urban blind 4 out hang video

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I.B

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Oh okay.

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this is very interesting for sure. here are my thoughts.. there isn't much for filming here, basically just the camera rolling and nothing real "exciting" as far as me wanting to hire you to do my next project if that makes sense. kinda like what someone else said above.

that being said...this is probably the coolest most interesting crash/way to come off of a rail ever! you will never find something else like this and YOU were the one to capture it making you own the rights. so this is why i would see if they are willing to pay for the video for sure!

with THAT being said. you did put it on the internet to go viral with only your name on it for everyone to see. if espn aired it, it sounds like they want to do the same, just air it with your name like it is on the web. and if they do it that way, people who are at all interested will go google that which would take you to your original video anyway for them to watch on repeat over and over again.

so basically its quite the predicament. If it was me, since its only a small clip, but yet very very very rare, i would ask for some form of monetary compensation because it is espn who attracts more viewers than the news guarantee, but if they aren't willing to pay much or anything at all, i would still say yes just to see my name on tv with my work. thats how i feel anyway

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Enstrut

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threads, I want to see how this turns out

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las.

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Basically this.

"We do not have the budget for this" - yeah fucking right.

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holy.shep

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let them use it but edit in "newschoolers" all the way across the bottom

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This is the part where you kindly tell them to frig off.

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Write

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youre an idiot, why the fuck would espn pay him to use his footy in their not top 10..they have 200 other not top ten plays they can throw in there for free, considering they cover almost every large event..get the exposure, thats dope

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lol wut

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You corrected his correct grammar with incorrect grammar? Doesn't make sense...

For the record, K_M you are wrong. Of course ESPN has a shit ton of money, but the budget for non-top 10 is probably very close to zero.

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I don't know it for a fact, but knowing ESPN is a big corp and they probably have very strict budgets, im sure the financial people don't want to toss any money towards a 1-2 min spot that is once a week when they can take anything from their live broadcasts and use them for free.

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Yeah, there is no way theyre gonna try to get some budget for a not top 10 video.

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Completely barring whether or not ESPN truly has the funds to pay you lying around somewhere, the simple matter is that someone is asking you to give them footage for free. Freelancers' approach to this will vary, but in my opinion: no money => frig off.

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Protest ESPN for nagging about triples on x games by not giving them rights to the vid

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Im sure if you don't give them the video, they will have no problem finding someone else who is willing to give them a video of a crash.

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this.

anyway i didn't email her back in time for her so it didn't go on air.

also just got an email from good morning america asking if they can get permission to show the youtube video on air. thought that was pretty cool. they are also not paying for license, so its more or less the same situation.

i think im going to let them use it, its not like this video is going to define my career. why not get it on tv?

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My thoughts exactly, it can only help you in the future.

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These companies want to use your video because you happened to catch something really funny, not because of the production value or anything, so i dont know if all these rules about freelancers and stuff applies. try to get money, but if you cant, let them have it

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Why not put it up on ESPN, what do you have to lose? It's a great clip!

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hahahaha dude!! i just saw this clip on the fucking news! :P i got fired up!

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haha what news and where?

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im pretty sure it was CBC news. could be wrong though, and im in Ottawa Ontario. ... they were doing an interview with JP Auclair because of his street segment and they were asking him the dumbest questions lol and right after that they showed your vid.

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thats pretty cool!

did they say anything about my video other then the obvious skier gets stuck on a pole jokes?

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At the same time they could care less if they get it or not. He either gives it to them for free with his name credit or they find something else.

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to be honest i didnt hear anything cuz i yelled out holly fuck i know where that vid comes form blah blah and by then the anchor was laughing and they were on to another topic... so they didnt say much other than the obvious yeah...

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OP have you made any money from YouTube yet?

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noticed the michigan names. haha. yobeat posted this on their facebook, which i thought was pretty huge considering they are all snowboarding and they didnt even hate on it

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He already said that it was too late by the time he e-mailed back.

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Mike That is so sick if ESPN emails you again why not let them use it. It was so funny when Ell did that and worth having it showed world wide. Deffinatley get on ESPN. Good luck from da mitten

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jimmy kimmel showed it. didn't get any sort of email or anything from them.. probably thinking too formally on this one but heres a screenshot

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Dyar

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Just saw this from a link on aol "this skier attempting to do a one hundred and eighty degree turn..."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/01/extreme-skier-fail-180_n_1247523.html?ref=sports&ncid=webmail5

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PJS.

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that video is so awesome. VIRAL

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thanks for the link! pretty funny stuff

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PJS.

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I wouldn't scroll down to the comment section, unless you want to see some concentrated bullshit.

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haha im not the skier so doesn't really mean much to me,

and they aren't awful, just normal "hes a dumbass" comments

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