I have 8 days on mine this season. Brand new 2010 177s.
- Super soft, playful ski
(could be a con to some)
- Butter zones
- Fully symmetrical
(makes riding switch awesome)
- Swing weight is very low
- Pops nicely
(Carbon ollie bands)
- As mentioned, really deep/tough base
. I'v taken a lot of deep pre-season shots and it just keeps coming back for more.
- Edges are tough as nails.
- Heavy. Let's be real, they are not the lightest skis, but as mentioned the swing weight is very low so you'll have no problem bringing the skis around for rotations or switch-ups. Combined weight I believe is 9.5lbs. Whether they get "heavier" because they "absorb" moisture is still tbd. They weight still feels the same for me since day 1.
- They rocker out in the tip and tail for either presses or landing backseat. Because the ski's flex pattern is so dang soft, they really don't maintain camber for a full season. My tips are already starting to rocker slightly.
- They splinter. Top sheet damage is normal for any ski, and I would argue these hide it well. However, when you do start to get scratches, the wood actually splinters. Make sure you keep some sandpaper on you and just give it a light rub down where the splinters are. Your hands will thank you.
- Many people will tell you the bases are slow. I would argue the exact opposite. Invest in an iron from Goodwill, a bar of all-temp wax, a scraper, and a brilla pad and wax every other day or so depending upon conditions (total cost is like 20 bucks). I keep these suckers nice and waxed and they really do fly down the mountain. When we are just hotdogging, I'm typically the fastest one in the pack. Are there faster skis? Yes, absolutely. Are these as slow as molasses? No.
I did have a chance to use these ski in the pre-season at Big Bear in Cali in 60 degree weather. Essentially water skiing. Towards the end of the day, after the slush stripped the wax, they did start to get sticky, I'll admit to that.
Bottom line, these skis are PARK skis. They are meant to be abused and thrashed. Are they as fun as fuck? Hell yes. They make the entire mountain trickable. Tail tapping rocks, bonking stumps, nollieing over whatever you want, truly a fun ski.
They are decent carvers and will get the job done on the groomers if you are looking to cruise those as well.
DO NOT buy these skis thinking you are purchasing an awesome all mountain ski with characteristics in the flex pattern that would favor in any condition. These are not that ski.
Cheap, playful, FUN, and disposable.