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Critique this non-hotel living video

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blatt
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inb4 "Needs more tripod shots"
Dec 25 2011 2:04AM
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Downtofilm
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You need some more tripod shots.

Jk

I will critique later.
Dec 25 2011 4:05AM
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[J_Gasper]
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some parts looked a little over saturated. but i liked it a lot.
Dec 25 2011 9:05AM
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kootenayklaus
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I mean, no, you don't need more tripod shots, a video is defined by a personal style. You seem to like using your Glidecam a lot, so that sort of defines you. It all comes down to personal preference.

Very, very sharp, good colors (apart from a little over saturation), and smooth footage. I thoroughly enjoyed that.
Dec 25 2011 10:21AM
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Brock.
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Nik said pretty much everything I was going to say, but nicer.

I think you may want to explore different methods.
Dec 25 2011 11:29AM
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blatt
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You guys gotta understand, I dont have a tripod at the moment... I'm more than excited for mine to arrive, but until then all I can do is glidecam.
Dec 25 2011 11:49AM
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Brock.
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You don't need a tripod to explore different methods of filming from what I have been seeing in your edits. In fact you could just remain relatively stationary and use subtle movements to achieve slider-like footage. I have used a 50mm on my t2i with a glidecam and been able to get very smooth tele shots (Its actually 75mm because of the sensor).
Dec 25 2011 3:05PM
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blatt
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Yeah, I used to do that a lot, and love doing that (@11mm on my lens though). My riders kept on getting mad at me though when I'd miss the banger tricks' landings because I was "getting artsy". My biggest fear with pumping out frequent edits is redundancy, so I'll definitely keep that stuff in mind.
Dec 25 2011 3:09PM
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west-coast
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Colors were extremely nice, however I'd get closer with the angles you take with the glide cam. For example on the two tricks over the barrel feature you couldn't see the immediate landing, which for me is really important. So just keep that in mind and possibly get closer on jump follow by's, but just my opinion.
Dec 25 2011 3:29PM
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WillStart
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you mean 80mm. T2i is a 1.6x crop.


and yes, he could do that, but so many people do that too. it's not like that's a unique way to film either. i actually think mike is doing something sort of unique with his glidecam footage in that he is always just going so damn fast on the jumps and such. kind of reminds me of the way evan sometimes does it, but even faster. idk, there's just something about these edits that feels new to me.
Dec 25 2011 4:19PM
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Brock.
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of course, 80mm.


From what I understand, his dilemma was breaking free from the similar filming style you described above (which is quite nice to watch, don't get me wrong) that has been dominating pretty much every one of his videos, without the use of a tripod. I was offering a suggestion that could help him mix things up a bit, however in no way was I trying to say it was unique.
Dec 25 2011 5:16PM
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St.Steezy
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can someone start filming these follow lines fisheye
Dec 25 2011 6:04PM
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WillStart
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meh...
Dec 25 2011 6:05PM
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Downtofilm
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lulwut?
Dec 25 2011 6:07PM
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kootenayklaus
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You're a filmer. You're supposed to direct your riders, not have them direct you how to film.
Dec 25 2011 6:59PM
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Brock.
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Click for larger image
Dec 25 2011 7:10PM
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jason...
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this.

it just looks so awkward when lines are filmed shoulder height without massive distortion.


also not your problem as a filmer but it really bugs me when people pizza before hitting rails, looks so stupid and just makes it seem like you cant ski for shit. so tell that guy not to do that because he is clearly a good skier
Dec 25 2011 7:38PM
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west-coast
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what are you talking about? every skier has their comfort speed before they hit a feature, get used to it
Dec 25 2011 8:38PM
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Brock.
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Completely agree

Dec 25 2011 8:57PM
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blatt
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Ha yeah, he's 14 and just quit racing so he's still learning the ways of afterbang
Dec 25 2011 9:53PM
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jason...
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heres the simple solution. dont pizza. turn your skis sideways to speed check, its more comfortable and looks better.

obviously every skier has their comfort speed, but pizza'ing before hitting a feature just makes it look like you cant ski
Dec 25 2011 11:40PM
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TaranItUp
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That kid kills it for being only 14.
Dec 26 2011 12:55AM
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eheath
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This. Every time a rider tells me to film from some angle or whatever I tell him to let me do my job and let him worry about landing tricks.


Mike decent looking edit, colors are getting better. If you're gonna shoot @11 you need to get in their face, especially on the jumps (and some rails which just appeared to be random positioning that wasn't planned) some shots were pretty far away.

The key I think to avoiding redundancy isn't always if you use a glide cam or if you use a tripod. The skiing, the music, the setting (hard to change) and overall camera movements and perspective determines a lot.


That one dude said film up close with a fisheye, obviously this comment should be taken with a grain of salt but he brings up a point, low street style shots can look sick. Glide cam height can get old. Try this (kevin/paul first told me about it and ive be trying it out more) flip your glide cam upside down.... it sounds crazy but since its balanced, it works both ways! you just have to flip in post (mad easy especially if you leave your cam on for a whole run or if you use mpeg to transcode, it has a rotate option i believe) and you get a different perspective. Changing perspective is key, there are so many different ways to film with a glide cam and it will enhance your content and make it seem less redundant.
Dec 26 2011 3:56AM
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WillStart
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sounded like what he was saying was not to change the filming, just to throw a fisheye on the camera, which sounds way worse than the idea you suggested.
Dec 26 2011 4:20AM
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eheath
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haha i see what you're saying. skater fisheye in general is an absolute fucking no go for me.
Dec 26 2011 4:42AM
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s.erickson
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Been doing this a lot recently, you can get some super rad shots from it
Dec 26 2011 1:59PM
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blatt
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indeed. That's why I love using it over sliders, you can get much more creative with the "tracks" rather than going in a fixed linear motion (nothing wrong with that if that's they way you swing).

Ima try the upside down thing soon, I think we're taking a break from hotel living... 4 edits in a week (working on a 5th) is too much for me haha
Dec 26 2011 6:09PM
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Brock.
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my hero
Dec 26 2011 7:18PM
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MLeone
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Wow that was impressive Mike! You're new stuff is awesome! Just wondering though what did you use for audio? It sounded pretty good, was it a videomic straight into the t2i with ML?
Dec 27 2011 8:10PM
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blatt
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That was internal audio, I personally like it over my videomic at times. The reason being that you get a more "coarse" sound from the internal audio. The major drawback of that is that I get a lot of wind chatter since there's no windscreen but I do have a micromuff on the way!
Dec 27 2011 8:13PM
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MLeone
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Wow that's impressive and could you elaborate on what you mean by "coarse" audio?
Dec 27 2011 9:48PM
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blatt
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The windscreen muffles the rough sounds of things that are harsh noises, like bonks, slides, stomps, etc.

My hope is that the micromuff will halt the wind chatter but not take away form the coarse audio noises
Dec 27 2011 9:55PM
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