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Henrik Harlaut Skier of the year

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jreilly
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Congrats buddy! Much deserved.
Dec 20 2011 4:09PM
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Session
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"pushed the limits of style" is code for "I have no REAL argument, I just like to slob knobs as I trend whore with the rest of the 13 year old's"

Freeskier SOTY is a complete joker. The most progressive skiers really have no chance of winning this.
Dec 21 2011 1:58AM
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snomaster
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yep, it's basically an entertainment weekly style popularity contest. we need a rider-voted freeskier of the year, like those knuckledraggers do every year.

Henrik is sick (and expanding his game), but Sammy was/is on top right now.
Dec 21 2011 2:10AM
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eheath
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To everyone complaining.... It was a skier of the year PUBLIC VOTING contest put on by freeskier. What did you really expect?
Dec 21 2011 2:49AM
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kungfusteeze
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Not complaining, or "riding Henrik's dick"... But Sammy really just didn't do anything for me this year. His part in Grand Bizzare was my least favorite, comps really just show who can do the most cookie cutter run/trick, and On Top of The Hood was good, but just didn't do anything new. Only upside of the movie was the killer scenery, otherwise it was some fairly standard stuff for the guys in it. I love Sammy, and he fucking kills it. But he didn't do something as off the wall as Henrik. People can hate on him all they want because he doesn't rip BC, (but more then half of the people on here really don't rip BC either, so shut the fuck up) or because of the excess of Wu-Tang, (some people like it, no need to hate on somebody for having different taste and style) but Henrik pushed some focus onto straight style in park/urban skiing. Did some funky shit that caught alot of attention from not only 16 year old trendwhores, but alot of big names. I think doing something new/fresh deserves an award over a fairly standard year for Sammy C (it was a good season, but it was nothing new really). And people complaining that only people who ski Big Mountain and BC should count, those two disciplines of skiing aren't all that matters. As much as you disagree, Park/Urban are just as important these days. Maybe not to the industry, but to the community. If you want to hate on Park Rats, etc... go on TGR you assholes. And that was my 2 cents...let the hate commence.
Dec 21 2011 3:54AM
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grosseviolence
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Like many said, that competition is a joke. Putting big mountain skiers against park skiers is almost like comparing two different sports. Anyways, it's not like Henrik had won the Nobel prize.

Sammy and Henrik are both sick skiers, and I hope to see them killing it hard again this year as they did this one.
Dec 21 2011 11:01AM
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c4t_l0ver
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This.
Dec 21 2011 11:02AM
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BCASSASSIN
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This, so sick of gangster park rat genre.
Dec 21 2011 11:05AM
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fratskier69
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most of ns does not fucking understand wutang and it makes me rage
Dec 21 2011 11:31AM
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BrightonFridays
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That is completely wrong! If you think that bringing style into this little argument is a way of not having an a real argument, than your a lost cause. You have to base what you like to see in skiing off more than if someone did three flips or in the case of sammy a double to a pole jam. Im not saying I don't like sammy, or that On the Top of Hood, that shit was rad! Henrik did some shit last year though: his xgames shit, big air, nose butter dub, made b&e. I will agree that some of his shit is a little over the top but over all he has been doing some different and maybe having someone who is attempting to push style and making skiing not all the same is a good thing.

and feel free to call me a trend whore because that will be doing exactly what you tried to call that other kid out for and basically show you have no argument.
Dec 21 2011 11:34AM
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Tanner-D
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Who gives a fuck
Dec 21 2011 12:04PM
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The_Future
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This... powder awards are always a little more accurate IMO.
Dec 21 2011 12:16PM
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jason...
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he did a nose butter double 10. based on that alone he should win skier of the year
Dec 21 2011 12:47PM
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FerrisBueller
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this.
Dec 21 2011 1:50PM
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DarthBall
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Well said! Also, to everyone calling us dick sucking trend whores, please take your ignorance else where. A lot of us on here and i mean a lot don't have access to any form of back country skiing, so we emulate skiers like Henrik. Im from Minnesota, my only options are park, urban, or racing, so excuse me for not emulating the big mt guys. Its such a bummer to see so much hate in the community, I know for a fact that a lot of the jibbing community has respect for what the BC guys do. Even though most of the BC skiers don't seem to give any back to skiers like Henrik and what they are doing for the sport.
Dec 21 2011 2:33PM
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Algebra
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henrik won wsi big air btw


but i do think sammy should have won imo
Dec 21 2011 2:52PM
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iSmokeweed
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yeah, but having to mute it just made it poopy.
Dec 21 2011 4:22PM
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tdollo
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hahaha Freeskier Magazine failed
Dec 21 2011 4:36PM
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Puzzled
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Here we go again...
Dec 21 2011 4:43PM
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jewFro
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He got second, bbrown got first.

Sammy had an amazing season. X Games gold, and correct me if I'm wrong, he skipped Dew Tour stops so he could spend all that time up in Whistler. He had a banger, well rounded, closing segment in the Grand Bizarre and he put out HIS OWN FUCKING MOVIE. Shot and produced in a couple months. Nearly landed the first backcountry triple, and probably could have with a few more tries. It'd be ridiculous to say that because Henrik had good edits this year, that he deserves skier of the year. And that's really his only achievement this year.
Dec 21 2011 5:06PM
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mattb912
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I would say you are the trend whore sir
Dec 21 2011 5:27PM
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dan4060
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I grew up in the east, and still dreamed of skiing big mountains.  I think people in the past were more that way than the kids coming up now.  I don't really buy the whole 'I live back east so I don't emulate big mountain skiers' position.  When I grew up, we looked for the hardest run on the mountain, and tried to ski it as well as we could.

MInnesota might be different.  You guys might not have bump runs.

Kids that grow up in Florida still dream of surfing Pipeline.  I don't see why skiing should be any different.  In surfing, it is understood that no matter how good someone is in slop, they will never have the respect of the core surfing commmunity until they can make powerful turns on 3X overhead waves.  I don't see why skiing should be any different.

I think part of the reason for the lack of respect from the BC folks, is that many of them HAVE park experience, and don't want to go back to it.  Think of it this way:  A 12 year-old says eating chocolate is better than sex.  A 25 year old disagrees.  Who is in a better position to make a decision?  The 25 year old knows plenty about chocolate, but the 12 year old knows nothing about sex, so it makes sense that the 25 year old's position is granted more weight.  Plato's allegory of the cave also comes to mind.

Have you ever seen a park skier become a great big mountain skier, and then say that what they really prefer is park?  I haven't.  It does not mean they aren't out there, I just have not seen it.

Who knows more about the merits of urban skiing versus the merits of big mountain skiing, Tanner Hall or a 13 year old from Minnesota? 

As for the vote.....It should not really surprise people.  It was based on the preferences of the online voting population.

Congratulations to Henrik.  I would not have voted for him, but who cares. 

Dec 21 2011 5:30PM
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Pool.
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very well written, and i completely agree,+k
Dec 21 2011 5:45PM
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DarthBall
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Sorry bud, but a total asinine statement. Who are you to claim that all park skiers are 12 year olds eating chocolate while BC skiers are 25 year olds having sex....that is really moronic. As for surfing, i do not see any correlation between comparing small and big waves to park and BC..... Thats great if you and your friends dreamed of skiing big lines while you were back on the east cost, their is nothing wrong with that. However, this statement is exactly why i have a problem with you guys.We respect your views on skiing but you NEVER give any back. You think we are stupid immature kids for dreaming of going out west to hit bigger and better parks, just like many pro skiers do.....instead of BC. Their is nothing wrong with thinking this way. Get over your selves, the fact that everyone is an individual and has the right to do what they please is what makes the world such a unique place. I like to ski park...so i emulate park skiers..get over it.
Dec 21 2011 5:51PM
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fillup
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-nose butter dub
-1440 in x-games. imo was the dopest
-puts out free video that no one can compete with. Sure sammy does sick shit but alot of people can emulate it and do the same tricks, henrik does tricks no one else has done or can do
- gangster steeze is still the most popular
Dec 21 2011 5:57PM
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Pool.
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ok im a big henrik fan but what trick besides the butter dub has he done that no one else can/has done? im not saying sammys doing tricks that no one else does but a lot of henriks tricks are recycled and other people can to also
Dec 21 2011 6:26PM
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DarthBall
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Also, who are you to presume that i am a 13 year old who has never been out of MN? Or skied BC? I am 23 year old graduate from the University of Montana. So yes, I have had my fair share of BC skiing or "sex" experiences. You are also extremely presumptuous to infer that skiers who prefer park are only able to speak on behalf of "chocolate." Really bold judgment to make on such a large community. Maybe they just like chocolate more...
Dec 21 2011 8:01PM
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jason...
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because there isny jumps or rails in surfing, its just waves. they dont have much to branch out on, we do.
Dec 21 2011 11:14PM
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404404
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Sammy is a good skier we get it. Rails, jumps, BC whatever he is great, one of the best.

But Henrick has a style that is unique to say the least, tricks that go from micro to macro features, and is more of a personalty. He is creating a new style in skiing that is stands out, thats why he won Skier of the Year.


Dec 21 2011 11:14PM
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anashyo
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Henrik*
Dec 21 2011 11:22PM
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t_rob
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Skier of the year is a popularity contest which has very little to do with overall skiing ability regardless of discipline(s). It's freeskier, look who is voting for it. Look at the first round. Parker White beat Sage and Bobby beat Seth. Give that bracket to TGR and Seth would have won out. If you had to put every skier on that bracket head-to-head in the disciplines of Jumps, Rails, BC, Big Mountain, halfpipe whatever, Sammy would take it down.
Dec 21 2011 11:26PM
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ski_ENDUB
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I think freeskier should move the final round to voting based on a panel of the skiers nominated instead of the public
Dec 21 2011 11:43PM
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codizzle
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harlaut skier of the year? please.

sammy c dominated muthafuckerz this year. the only other skier in Sammy's league is Sean Pettit.
Dec 21 2011 11:55PM
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codizzle
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btw, Freeskier Magazine should also have a Rider's Choice Award, too.

it would be nice to know who all the riders think kills it.
Dec 21 2011 11:57PM
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icon1234
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Yea I have been over B&E for awhile now, I don't even think I finished the latest episode cause I was bored midway through, o and I would like to point out henrik and phil were hands down two of my favorite skiers like 2 years ago. But frankly the new tricks henrik has been doing is just getting old for me, I am sick of seeing presses on rails, they all look the exact same to me. I say the only legit thing that B&E did this year that blew my mind was that butter dub, that shit was next level but the rest is the same as anything else. Like there was a time where henrik used to do the most effortless crazy tech rail tricks, pretzels on everything and making them look like he was doing them blindfolded. Now he is all about presses and shit, and frankly imo they just don't look good, esp if you compare it to snowboarding. But my opinion doesn't really matter, I am stoked that Henrik is pushing the sport in a different direction than what many others are doing, so they should keep it up.

But to the actual competition, I am not sure how exactly you classify skier of the year... But if it has to do with who had the best video segment and competition results, then Sammy takes the win easy hands down to anyone who is unbiased. Sammy had an amazing competition year, as well as putting out his own movie as well as having a sick segment in PBP. I think the biggest difference between the two riders is that Sammy destroyed the comp scene this year, which gave him a huge edge imo and which is why I believe he deserved the win.


Dec 22 2011 12:19AM
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jason...
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lol, now this is funny.
Dec 22 2011 12:27AM
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fillup
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Off the top of my head the grabbed rail slide to blind two hadnt been done before, i also feel like he popped off the tranny finding trend, switch tail press 50-50, and then the fact that no one besides b-dog and hornbeck can touch his presses and steeze that goes with em
Dec 22 2011 12:41AM
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fillup
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Off the top of my head the grabbed rail slide to blind two hadnt been done before, i also feel like he popped off the tranny finding trend, switch tail press 50-50, and then the fact that no one besides b-dog and hornbeck can touch his presses and steeze that goes with em
Dec 22 2011 12:41AM
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414.
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actualy, *Henrik won because he has every little 13 year old on his dick. I like Henrik, the shit he does is insanely creative and fun to watch, but in no way did he do what Sammy did this year. I really could care less, i just cannot stand the "lets do what Henrik does" trend right now.
Dec 22 2011 1:15AM
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danbrown
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i don't really like watching sammy ski. i liked watching sammy ski in war, but now he bores me for the most part.
Dec 22 2011 1:50AM
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Mr.Bishop
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Not to mention that the ski industry pretty much wouldn't exist without ski sales in the east.

We'd all ride neck deep pow every day if we could. But that isn't reality, and if that was the only reality that was OK, skiing wouldn't exist.

Stop the elitist bullshit and leave that for FIS and ski racing.


Dec 22 2011 1:59AM
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Colin.W
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this.

I find it partially offensive when people say that us 'park rats' don't appreciate or know what skiing is. I have grown up skiing the east and yeah I love days where there is fresh snow and you can't hear anything when you ski, but it doesn't do it for me like skiing park does. I like to express myself through park, and through style and IMO Henrik does that a lot better than sammy. I respect them both and they are both bomb ass skiers but people have their own opinions. I don't hate people who ski BC and powder and I don't expect them to hate me for skiing park every time I throw on my skis.

STOP THE HATING.
Dec 22 2011 2:19AM
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Kangbang
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Shut the fuck up Thomas.
Dec 22 2011 2:42AM
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Drail
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this thread is jokes.

I like how it's turned into a "park skier" VS "powder skier" when both skiers in question seam to be capable of both and enjoy both. Sure, they might have their specialties, but I don't see the true relevance right now.

My two cents: Sammy probably should have won due to his footage in GB and his comp results, but he didn't. I voted, my guy lost. Not sure why everyone is taking it so hard. I'm sure Sammy isn't loosing any sleep over it.
Dec 22 2011 3:03AM
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E__
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This.
Dec 22 2011 3:58AM
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AOTEAROA
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sean pettit shits all over henrik harlaut. what a joke.
Dec 22 2011 5:29AM
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rickysick
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I'm naked. Who is Henrik Harlaut?
Dec 22 2011 5:35AM
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Saintlysteeze
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O and wallisch predicted that henrik would win last year, in his article for freeskier of the year. Conspiracy.... We will never know
Dec 22 2011 9:33AM
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Mr.Bishop
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I'm with you Andy, its rad that Henrick is progressing style in different directions. I think its exciting to see this kind of stuff happening in the sport and I think that there should be a lot of credit given for it.

I will tell you all right now though, it is absolutely not the 13 year olds. I see the traffic stats of even newschoolers, which EVERYONE would argue is all 13 year olds. Its not.

Our primary age category is 18-24.

Someone who joined newschoolers at 13 when it started would now be 25. Probably graduating from college and thinking about getting married.

Freeskier pitches an older demographic than us, so I really do think this is an honest appreciation for what Henrik is doing.
Dec 22 2011 9:40AM
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Mike-O
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Perry's right.
Dec 22 2011 9:41AM
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