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On Hill Filming.

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TaranItUp
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Hey guys, so I have just started filming on the mountain and I have a question. It is incredibly difficult to ski with your friends and try and film at the same time. What I have been doing is,I take my camera out of my bag and put it on to my tripod while my friends wait for me to get setup. So my question is, do you guys do this, or do you always have your camera out, or do you just chill around the park and wait for them to come by as you setup your shots?
Dec 5 2011 7:43PM
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MattL.
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Just take off your skis unless your doing followcams and put all your stuff down out of the way and place your tripod in different places. just find a feature for instance a rail and film them when they hit it and then have them hike on just that feature like 10 times etc. its super easy and efficient
Dec 5 2011 7:45PM
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ThunderousFilms
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I use two different setups, If I know I will be filming one guy all day i bring my 7d kit and my tripod, 7d stays on the tripod which i use as a glidecam, and my backpack stays on my back. If I will be filming multiple people I usually bring two cameras, two tripods, and a pocket dolley, and post up and let them lap the features I am filming.
Dec 5 2011 7:50PM
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TaranItUp
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I would do this, but our mountain is set up (ATM) with a mini park closer to the top, and a small park at the bottom. Also my friends hate hiking. So my choices are, follow them around with my camera always out, stop at a spot i wanna film, or make them wait for me to get my camera out.
Dec 5 2011 7:52PM
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TaranItUp
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Thank you, I will prolly be doing the same thing with my camera on a tripod as my glidecam. The only problem i found last weekend is that I was fiming in a blizzard so I didnt want to keep my camera out for to long.
Dec 5 2011 7:53PM
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MattL.
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well following them around can work if your doing laps. The other option could work if you dont mind waiting. and well the third option, you're the one filming them.. they shouldnt complain... but if they do http://www.google.com/imgres?q=wambulance&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&biw=1280&bih=891&tbm=isch&tbnid=zZz8KLb1cpH00M:&imgrefurl=http://smartmouthlittlebitch.wordpress.com/2010/03/22/dance-ballerina-dance/&docid=coaFsnZ2sTcxdM&imgurl=http://smartmouthlittlebitch.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/wambulance3.jpg&w=500&h=271&ei=t2fdTquBN-Xo0QHTvOiMDg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=166&vpy=205&dur=135&hovh=165&hovw=305&tx=203&ty=83&sig=115955768188616936371&page=1&tbnh=107&tbnw=197&start=0&ndsp=23&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0

Dec 5 2011 7:54PM
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cwillygood
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i would agree with the have your friends hike it part, thats what i do, but its a little harder with jumps, at my park theres really only one good jump at the bottom so i just park my stuff there and have em come down, im usually skiing with alot of people so its not too bad
Dec 5 2011 7:57PM
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erikK
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this is what makes a glidecam so useful. personally i prefer tripod shots but doing follow-cams on a glidecam all day is so much less work. but of course run and gun shooting won't look as good as a properly composed, focused, exposed, etc shot.
Dec 5 2011 9:00PM
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Stickity
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you'd get more shenanigans on film tho and everyone loves shenanigans
Dec 5 2011 10:47PM
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TaranItUp
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Exactly, I do not have the money to afford a glidecam, so i guess a tripod will do. And hey when i want to bust out a few tripod shots. Bam my T2i is already on my tripod.
Dec 5 2011 11:40PM
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bakedpow
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For me i don't shoot park often if ever. I ski an area with something i would not call a park.

So i am shooting in the bc a LOT. This means a lot of hiking and skinning to get to unique zones that we can lap.

Now i don't film to much cuz i just love shredding to be stuck behind the camera to lon. But when i am i generally just post up off to the side below where my buddies are coming down and get them shredding.

They hike, i film. I hike and ski. Repeat.
Dec 5 2011 11:54PM
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Gknow
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I've found this year that i get satisfaction out of the whole day if I ski in the morning, then break out the camera and get shots in the afternoon. Get some tricks out of the way and still come out with shots. I'm also slowly teaching people how to use the glidecam
Dec 6 2011 1:06PM
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[~_~]
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I follow the skiers down the hill holding my tripod + camera over my shoulder like a bazooka. At each feature I tell them to wait while I go set up, then yell when I'm ready. Once they go, I collapse the tripod and repeat.

Be careful about getting too caught up with follow cams. They may be easier and more economical, but edits that are 100% follow shots tend to be really uninteresting imo. Doesn't matter how good your Glidecam skills are.
Dec 6 2011 1:12PM
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juicedrummer11
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i think this is pretty efficient..especially on jumps and large features. and for rails...just tell your friends if they wanna be on camera their gonna have to hike a lil bit. then constantly remind them that you still put in most of the work after the day is done anyway when you edit and what not.
Dec 6 2011 2:38PM
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skituner
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this
Dec 6 2011 3:35PM
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[evan]
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I plan on filming a lot this year, but 'm not going to be putting away and taking out my cam a lot. If it's getting setup, then they better be hiking that shit for like 30 min, im not gonna let them peace the fuck out when im all set up.

I'm the one filming, working and shit, theyre skiing, they need to know that.
Dec 6 2011 3:50PM
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bakedpow
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As long as your filming buddies who are willing to work a little bit, it really shouldnt be that hard...
Dec 6 2011 4:19PM
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[evan]
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Thats what im talking about, obviously im not going to make them hike a jump like 10+ times. lol

I'm not to worried though, its simple, if they want an edit, they do what i say, if they dont. im not bringing the cam. and sometimes if i need footy for something, ill make them do hike.
Dec 6 2011 4:29PM
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Stickity
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i hiked a jump about 30 times one day
it got easier to walk back up the more i did it
Dec 6 2011 5:27PM
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erikK
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So you don't actually enjoy filming? I usually make edits because I enjoy filming and editing, rarely because someone wants an edit made.
Dec 6 2011 6:27PM
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[evan]
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No of course i love filming/photography, and want to have a succesful season and make things people will enjoy, but I have a schedule of days im going to film and ski so that i can progress both. If some friends are going to be there a certain day and i wasnt planning on filming, if i bring my camera for them, they need to be dedicated to it as well as me.
Dec 6 2011 7:46PM
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TaranItUp
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Yeah I think I am going to give this a shot this weekend. People are gonna know whatsup when a kid with a full red suit comes hauling ass in switch with a bazookah on his shoulder.
Dec 6 2011 11:25PM
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