Need AT Binding Help!

A. It's sad that you didn't know that you were putting a pussy piece of meadow skipping plastic on a man ski like that.

B. You were warned.

C. Get a Duke, or set up something on an MFD All-time.

Everyone I talk to online is saying I should go with the Duke or F12?  They aren't really that much heavier then the Fritschi

Session,

You're right I was warned!!!  The sad thing is the binding felt so good all day until the damn thing popped!  What are the pros and cons for the F12 vs the Duke?

The F12 has a pussy toe from a kids binding. Duke? Not so much.

Alright the Duke it is!

On another board I keep getting recommended the Dynafit Radical FT.  They weight half as much as the Duke and have a din of 12.  Any experience with this binding from you guys would be appreciated.  I already have an AT boot so that isn't an issue, but the Dynafit is expensive as hell!

Thanks guys!

With the Dynafits you will need a proprietary boot as well.

I have a proprietary boot.  Im more concerned about the Dynafits resort inbounds performance.  I don't want to get another binding that is going to explode on me.

I have broke a few dukes on skintracks. I only ski on Dynafits now. I would strongly sugest against the duke. The Duke is the best for the ski down, worst for the skin up. Its the most durable binding on the ski down but the least durriable binding on the way up.  Dynafits are the most duriable for the up and still sold performance for the ski down. I ski my dynafits at the resorts for the first few fresh laps then once it gets choped up I ski bc the rest of the day. Dynafits are not the best for crudbusting at the resort all day. The new Radical bindings seam even more solid. I amlookin to get a pair soon. How much do you weigh? Are you goning to be climbing from trailheads or mostly just leaving the resort? I personaly feel that the Fritchi binding is better than the Duke between the two "lifted weight bindings" (dynafit has no lifted weight so you can save lost of energy and ski longer)

I'm 6'4" and weigh 200 lbs.  I will probably be skiing 60% at a resort and the rest of the time climbing from trail heads into the back country.  I won't ski the Fritschi anymore as I have zero confidence in the binding.  I was making a simple turn on a groomed run when the toe piece snapped off and I went flying!  If I can spend a full day at the resort skiing hard on the Dynafit I would go that route

Wouldn't the MFD and FKS be much heavier then the Duke?

You are a bigger guy, but I think with the new Radical Dynafit bindings would be fine. Get the higher DIN version. Just about everything critical in the dynafit are metal as oposed to the duke and fritchi with plastic. Being a sold balanced skier with dynafits I feel is more critical than the other bindings. I feel like you can stomp huge cilffs and charge as fast arround as you want with them but you need to stay balanced and not in the backseat ect.

Glad you posted this as I'm in a similar position. I'm 6'2, 175 and can't figure out whehter to get Dukes or MDF+Look. There will be days where I ski purely inbounds on em through crud/bumps so a true AT binding like a Dynafit isn't an option (and I don't have the form/balance of Hoji). I like the lower stack height of the MFD, but I'm worried it would just be too heavy. Dukes people seem to love em or hate em for various reasons.

Yewtard,  I agree man there really isn't any middle ground on the Dukes.  People either love them or hate them.  I think the MFD and the Look will be super heavy.  I wish the Dynafit could go as hard as I want it to in bounds and maybe it can.  That is what I'm torn on.

FKS and Looks = 5lbs 6oz per pair
MFD Alltime = 2lbs 10oz per pair

MFD/FKS Combo = 8lbs per pair

Dukes = 5lbs 15oz per pair

Dynafit Radical FT = 2lbs 10oz per pair! 

I would probably recommend a tech binding, like the Dynafit Radical FT or Plum Guide.

The main issue there is, yeah, sure you save a ton of weight - making touring and backcountry outings far more enjoyable and, often overlooked, desirable, since you aren't lugging up half of the mountain with you - but they are expensive bindings. The main kicker being you need a tech-compatible boot, which adds even more $$$.

If you are able to make that happen, that would probably be the ideal solution. Plenty of tech AT boots out there, and the aforementioned bindings are quite solid.

Plums have no brakes and doubt these versions ever will. Which is lame on their part

the heel and widened  mount print on the new dyna radicals are sweet, fuck twistin the volcano

I'm a fan of the binding freedom dyna or soli duke plate. Wide mount footprint bomber threaded screw connection.

not super stoked on the added 4mm of stack height on the duke or the way the duke skis in general, but

not wild about beatin on plums or dynas all season in bounds and there is a bt of the dyna fiddle learning curve.

If your boots already have tech inserts I'd go that route I have a couple sets of plums and possibly a used dyna ft12 (non radical) and/or dyna duke plates and jigs to mount.

BD should warrunty that damir frischi for you

After a month of staring at my unmounted skis I finally pulled the trigger on some Dukes this morning. Decided I'd deal with the extra stack height to save the weight of the MFD/Look combo. Should make for a good resort basher/ slackcountry/moderate backcountry setup. If I end up getting a true AT setup down the road I'll get Dynafit Radicals and mount em on DPS, but my wallet can't take that abuse this season.

I think i may be one of the only people to spend a half season on the MFDs and have a few days on my new Dynafit radicals this year. Stay away from MFD, its not the best system, it only is worth it if you truly hate the duke that much, and having another lighter touring setup is not an option. But if you are going to drop that much, might as well go with quiver killers and get 2 seperate bindings. If you are skiiing inbound and skinning a little bit, go with the duke or wait for the tracker/guardian. If you are doing split inbounds/touring, go radical for sure. Skinning in alpine boots with giant mega plates, isnt fun at all. As far as boots go, ive been blown away by the downhill performance of my new touring boots. ive been using the dalbello virus tour, and honestly, i think im getting rid of my alpine boots and skiing these everyday. It skis stiffer than my ilmorros, and is pretty dang close to my old krypton pros, just slightly wider (which is a good thing,i have a wider foot). i have been skiing them in my alpine bindings and touring bindings. Cant tell you how they ride in the park, I tore my acl in april and am not quite back yet, but im still charging as much as you can for early season crap snow in utah. I would imagine they ride like the pros, and have a pretty stiff liner, so just expect that. Best option would obviously be a true big mountain alpine set up(alpine binding of your choice), and a true big mountain touring set up (dynafits), and some trekkers for just in case you want to skin with your big set up. quiver killers and dynadukes are all awesome, Im picking some up soon. At the moment, if i had to choose one binding, i would go with the dukes if you are skiing mostly alpine and some sidecountry. but still, way too many damn options! its a good problem to have.