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Help with Blind swaps!

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monkatizer
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i have been trying to get some shots on my setup, like a brittney but i suck at blind side switch ups!

here is a couple of shots of them from today:




i seem to always fall to that one side or split the rail once in a while.

pleasssseeeee help me! i need to get a good shot for my edit im working on!

thanks! ++K to good answers!
Nov 23 2011 11:50PM
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Kenyon
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You probably need more speed but when you pop for the switch up trying staying more centered. Like try to poping more straight up.
Nov 23 2011 11:54PM
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peyton
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not bad man but it will be way easier once your on snow. the main problem now is speed. if you have more speed you will have an easier time. blind swaps are smooth, so therefore if you have more speed it will be more fluent and you will be getting them nice. just wait and see.. first time you try it in the park on snow where you actually have speed you will be killin it. good luck
Nov 23 2011 11:55PM
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peyton
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and ps about what that other kid said.. its not such a big deal about popping "up" its just about staying centered
Nov 23 2011 11:56PM
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monkatizer
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yea, i know, i can do em like nothin on the mountain or on the winter setup.

ill try to get more speed next time
Nov 23 2011 11:57PM
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e.wait
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"Stop being a prick and stay on the rail." -Ben Franklin
Nov 24 2011 1:06AM
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masterhatin
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yea id say once your on snow itll be cake, you pretty much have it
Nov 24 2011 1:19AM
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monkatizer
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thanks guys, but any tips to get them on the setup?
Nov 24 2011 8:02AM
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Eric.S
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Try and grip the rail after your switchup and land switch. Your keeping your momentum going which is making you split the rail. Just grip and keep your eyes on the end of the rail then pop
Nov 24 2011 8:33AM
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.squirrely.
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is a brittany blind swap, blind 2 or blind swap, front 2?
Nov 24 2011 8:34AM
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Joonas
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its a blind swap front 2 out.

Turn your body, lets say 120degs, and skis all the 180, that way your momentum wont keep going, and then you can decide if u want to prezel or frontswup
Nov 24 2011 9:03AM
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monkatizer
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+k to all
Nov 24 2011 6:33PM
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chicken
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look at the rail behind you before your pop. your head and shoulders can be like half way through the switch up before you actually pop and do it.
Nov 24 2011 6:40PM
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Billek
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This right here...kinda 

Look back, and as soon as you've turned 90*, pop up and keep spinning.  This is just a broken down, description, when you do it, it should be one fluid motion.  It seems like you were doing this in a few shots though, so there seems to be another problem. 

From what I can see, you need to catch the rail when you land.  In most of the shots, you put your left heel down and this just lets you keep spinning.  Think about this way ... when you want to do a frontside spin out, you have to put your leading heel down, resulting in a spin in that direction.  What you need to do is land with your leading (left) ski flat, or put your left toe down just a little bit and grip the rail so you don't keep spinning on left.

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Your leading foot position (heel down) after landing is allowing you to keep spinning off of the rail.  If you point your leading toe down when you land, it will stop this rotation, and it will keep you on the rail.  Now I'm not saying point the nose of the ski down and dig it into the ground, it's all about subtle application of pressure.  Catch me?
Nov 24 2011 7:04PM
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stokedelic
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^ all those are right. definitely pop UP, not off the rail, and dig your front toe in when you land. thatll help you stay on.
Nov 24 2011 7:54PM
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Anathema
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dont keep rotating after the 180. DUHHHHHHHHHH

but seriously, practice doing that on the ground first. pop, spin, land, dont let your body keep twisting, cause it'll cause your legs to continue the revolution.
Nov 24 2011 8:00PM
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tmills
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give it a couple more tries and you got it dude props
Nov 24 2011 8:10PM
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penguin_steeze
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Don't lean when your popping
Nov 24 2011 8:49PM
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monkatizer
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bumpp
Nov 25 2011 4:54PM
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zerospinskier
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That looks to be all you need. Bend that left knee and get that left toe down to stop your rotation. You can straighten your back knee (drop your back heel) at the same time for even more grip.
Nov 25 2011 7:13PM
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monkatizer
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is more speed a necessity? or is the amount i have fine
Nov 26 2011 11:13AM
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zerospinskier
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Speed isn't really the proper fix. Yes, if you go fast enough you can hopefully make it to the end of the rail before you fall off, but this isn't fixing the problem, just getting around it. Learning to actually catch the rail and control yourself is the right way to do it.
Nov 26 2011 2:25PM
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monkatizer
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alright, thanks man!
Nov 26 2011 10:52PM
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wesley.
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dont look down. if you look at the end of the rail the whole time, you wont travel on the switch up
Nov 26 2011 10:55PM
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monkatizer
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how do i look at the end while im initiating the spin?
Nov 26 2011 11:01PM
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wesley.
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you initiate the spin at the beginning. its a small rail trust yourself. set your initial 90 degree spin onto the rail harder to your momentum just helps you do the switch up. look at the end of the rail when you first pop and keep your head up the whole time. just dont look down, i worded that kinda strange
Nov 26 2011 11:04PM
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monkatizer
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gotcha, thanks
Nov 26 2011 11:17PM
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itsguccibaby
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DO 180'S WHILE STATIONARY ON THE RAIL. IT REALLY HELPS WITH THE FEELING OF STAYING CENTERED AND THE GENERAL FLOW OF A BLIND SWAP.
Nov 27 2011 12:55AM
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Broseph_Stalin
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i had the same problem

just get more comfortable with riding the rail unregular or the hard way.

then keep in your head what the next rail riding position is right before you to the blind switchup.

keep practicing if anything, you almost got it man
Nov 27 2011 1:34AM
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Yinzer
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been trying those for a while before these few shots? looks like you've already given up on the swap by the time your skis hit pvc again.

take a break, get a fresh start. and remember, try to get your eyes on the end of that rail once you've come around, keeps you from falling off the side. more speed too as said
Nov 27 2011 1:35AM
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Just_Send_It
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moreeee speed bro!!!
Nov 27 2011 1:52AM
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Njens.
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nice username
Nov 27 2011 2:03AM
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Jahrassicpark
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You're doing them fine you're just not scissoring your skis enough when you land the swap, and more speep
Nov 27 2011 2:09AM
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Jibbin_Ur_Face
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Dont hop, go surface for optimum steeze!
Nov 27 2011 2:09AM
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monkatizer
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thanks all, im gonna try again today!
Nov 27 2011 12:36PM
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JahJahBinks
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Looks like when you swap, you're going for a blind 2 but on the rail. You actually have to focus on the end of the rail and then re-focus after the swap. It took me forever to get blind swaps
Nov 27 2011 12:50PM
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NoBigDeal
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MORE SPEED
Nov 27 2011 1:03PM
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monkatizer
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i got a ton better at em today, still couldnt get the frontside 2 out after the blind swap, but whatev, ill get it tomorrow
Nov 27 2011 10:30PM
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monkatizer
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thanks for the help guys!

heres the edit i made, my segment is at the end.

Nov 28 2011 7:51PM
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Phil-X-
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Makes me wish i had a backyard rail sooo badly. even tho the quality/editing wasnt great, really liked the vid
Nov 28 2011 8:03PM
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monkatizer
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thanks man, it was my first edit, and i had to get some of the shots via the internet from the other filmer, which made the quality shit...
Nov 28 2011 8:05PM
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steezy.stew
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could i get some tips on actually digging for blind swaps?
Nov 28 2011 9:15PM
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dunesquirrel
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what pants are you rocking in ur seg....the beige ones?
Nov 28 2011 9:46PM
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monkatizer
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burton ronin
Nov 28 2011 9:47PM
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dunesquirrel
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gracias
Nov 28 2011 9:50PM
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Inline.
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Question: what is a Britney?
Nov 28 2011 9:58PM
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monkatizer
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blind switchup to front 270 out
Nov 28 2011 9:59PM
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Inline.
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so you'd continue to spin the same direction on the 2 out?
Nov 28 2011 10:28PM
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monkatizer
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yup, i almost got it, but kept splitting the rail as i popped
Nov 28 2011 11:36PM
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