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CALLOUT 2:Goonerville11

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OnePlank
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I bought Saga Beaverfur Pants off him in late September using Paypal(gifted unfortunately). I looked at his feedback and thought everything was gravy. Not so much. He said he shipped them about a day or 2 after i bought them, but they never came. He was good in responding, and said he went to the post office to see what was up. He said to just wait because they must have gotten lost.

He offered a full refund for the 100 dollars i paid, and i haven't heard anything from him in a couple weeks. I've messaged him a couple times, but most of our conversation was over text, so i can't really copy that. Ill post the messages in a sec.

I don't know if he just doesn't want to refund me, or if he just never sent them. But a response would be nice.
Nov 19 2011 3:21PM
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EastCoastSkiier
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To add on to that,

Just because Gooner was a standup guy in the past doesn't mean that couldn't have changed.
Nov 22 2011 1:08PM
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SlugInfinite
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Claiming you sent someone something they paid you for, then being unable to produce proof equates to stealing. You appear to be confusing a 'hate bandwagon' with 'reality'. Building up good feedback for a while, then ripping a bunch of people off is pretty much scamming 101 on these forums, it happens all the time. I guess until it happens to you, you'll rely on feedback posts, instead of the dude's actual behavior when he's ripping someone off, definitely not sketch at all.
Nov 22 2011 1:23PM
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gharlam
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Well said sir
Nov 22 2011 1:32PM
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snowdon
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Not to mention he's certainly had the opportunity to share his side of the story...
Nov 22 2011 2:01PM
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snowdon
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why wouldnt you save reciepts until this is resolved?
Nov 22 2011 2:12PM
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ShreddAZ
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OP be a man and tell everyone I showed you the receipt!


You kinda sorta fucking left that out in the callout!


I do have it somewhere in my 8 foot stack of receipts




Nov 22 2011 2:20PM
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EastCoastSkiier
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Your telling him to be a man you've switched your story so many times. I don't have the reciept, now I do but its in my "8 foot tall stack of reciepts". You have no argument so your forced to deny everything without any back up, your a punk who is flat out robbing Nsers of their money.
Nov 22 2011 2:22PM
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ShreddAZ
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Ask OP if he has seen the receipt...with Los Altos, CA on it and the item on it
Nov 22 2011 2:26PM
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EastCoastSkiier
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Pick an argument and stick to it, none of these would have ever happened if you hadn't been so spineless and changed your story ever six seconds.
Nov 22 2011 2:29PM
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snowdon
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I'd think this warrents hunting down that reciept, even if it's in a "tall stack." I'm not the most meticulous book keeper either, but come on. But then again, I'd also take back a pair of pants if a buyer wasn't happy with them, too.
Nov 22 2011 2:30PM
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ShreddAZ
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truth is if you haven't noticed I stopped caring the second you made the first callout
Nov 22 2011 2:41PM
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EastCoastSkiier
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Hey there we go. Your an obstinate brat of a young adult who chooses to act like a schoolyard bully fucking with other ppl's stuff, denying any wrongdoing and then deciding you don't care and that nothing was ever wrong.

Nov 22 2011 2:47PM
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gharlam
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and this is why, regardless of whether or not you showed OP a LEGITIMATE receipt, your an asshole who should just GTFO of NSers if you can't act like an adult.

you laughed when someone called you 12, but I've done business with 12 year olds on this site who have more of a spine and sense of morality than you do
Nov 22 2011 3:12PM
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EastCoastSkiier
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Exactly and in this recent string of messages he sent me this is shown even more:


Date Sent: Nov 22 2011 14:57:58 - (read)
Goonerville11$ --> EastCoastSkiier$
kk
Date Sent: Nov 22 2011 14:48:01 - (read)
EastCoastSkiier$ --> Goonerville11$
you really are a punk, enjoy my money, maybe with it you can learn a little bit of respect.
Date Sent: Nov 22 2011 14:46:14 - (read)
Goonerville11$ --> EastCoastSkiier$
kk
Date Sent: Nov 22 2011 14:45:45 - (read)
EastCoastSkiier$ --> Goonerville11$
Holy shit,
That's your defense break out a definition. You know the agreement we came too, you know I gave you months to fine you money, was extremrly patient and understadning. You also know that you screwed me out of my money and have continued to be nothing but difficult and unreasonable.

At this point I hope for nothing more than for you to never make another cent off of Nsers in your life.

And to blame me for not refunding the other guy is one of the most bitchlike moves I have ever seen. You pulled the exact same shit with him as you did with me.

Fuck you.
Date Sent: Nov 22 2011 14:40:28 - (read)
Goonerville11$ --> EastCoastSkiier$
You have pants in your hand


stealing is if you had no pants
Date Sent: Nov 22 2011 14:32:09 - (read)
EastCoastSkiier$ --> Goonerville11$
You have stolen $200 from me and $100 from the other guy. You may be 18 or however old you are but your acting like a greedy 12 year old, I have it down on paper that you agreed with me that you fucked up, that you are trying to deny that know is mindblowing to me. I couldn't live knowing I took money out of someone elses pocket.

And after claiming how "rich" you are, pathetic.
Date Sent: Nov 22 2011 14:29:17 - (read)
Goonerville11$ --> EastCoastSkiier$
Im not 12...my parents don't control what I do man....


I have stolen nothing from anyone, buying on here is difficult cause you do not get to see what you get
Date Sent: Nov 22 2011 14:28:00 - (read)
EastCoastSkiier$ --> Goonerville11$
What don't you understand. I told you as soon as I got them I was unhappy with the condition they were in but would try to trade them so you could keep the money, which you agreed to. When I told you I couldn't trade them and wanted my money back you refused. You have admitted to all of this. Its a very simple thing.

Let your parents see everything we have spoken about and both callouts, apparently you need them to set you straight.
Date Sent: Nov 22 2011 14:25:44 - (read)
Goonerville11$ --> EastCoastSkiier$
I txted you all damage kid


saga pants USPS lost them...i have receipt
Date Sent: Nov 22 2011 14:23:38 - (read)
EastCoastSkiier$ --> Goonerville11$
And if they don't choose to act on it that is their issue, however you should know how ur screwing kids here.
Date Sent: Nov 22 2011 14:22:51 - (read)
Goonerville11$ --> EastCoastSkiier$
my parents got that letter dumbass

Nov 22 2011 3:17PM
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abathinggrape
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Fuck Gooner
Nov 22 2011 5:01PM
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OnePlank
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you said you had it, you never showed it to me though i don't think
Nov 22 2011 5:23PM
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Big_Spence
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2=/=a bunch of people.

according to Gooner he provided a good amount of pictures of the G-Suit pants (damage included) to the customer via text message and the jackass still wanted to buy them for $200 solely for the purpose of flipping them. in my book that's completely the purchasers fault

and he did provide proof that he shipped the second pair of saga pants. things get lost in the mail on the time, i've done a multitude of deals here on NS and that's happened to me as well.
Nov 22 2011 5:39PM
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EastCoastSkiier
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Get your shit straight before commenting, I conceded I fucked that up. My issue with Gooner is that we had an agreement to return them, which he said he was good with, and when the time came to do it he backed out and started acting like an overgrown 10 yr old.
Nov 22 2011 5:43PM
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Big_Spence
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because he didn't want to give you your money back?
that's still your problem dude, he's not obligated to give you a refund because you bought garbage pants for an outrageous price.
Nov 22 2011 5:45PM
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EastCoastSkiier
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Once he agrees to do so... yeah it becomes his problem.
Nov 22 2011 5:47PM
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Big_Spence
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people back out of sales and trades every fifteen minutes on NS.
unless you sent the pants back to him and he held on to them without returning you cash then he's at no fault whatsoever. it's YOUR fault for buying pants that weren't in good condition; like i said before he has no obligations to issue you any kind of refund. you admitted you "fucked up" so i really don't see how it's his issue at all.


guess you'll think twice or ask for a couple more pictures next time before you buy something used off Newschoolers. simple as that.
Nov 22 2011 5:53PM
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gharlam
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nuff said you fucking idiot.

and i mean that in the nicest way possible because i have no qualms with you whatsoever and respect you trying to see the other side of the situation. but the reality is gooner is a lying scheming fuck - there is plenty of proof to show it - and the only way he has defended himself is through words - not one piece of tangible evidence to show hes not the lying scheming fuck i believe him to me


Nov 22 2011 5:54PM
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Big_Spence
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i've done multiple transactions goonerville (one in the past 2 months) and have never had a problem. he's never lied to me or to you, so why are you calling me a fuck?

he did message the OP of this thread a copy of the shipping receipt. and guess what? things get lost in the mail allllll the time. it's a fact of life. eventually it will show back up at either: a) gooners house or b) the OP's house. simple as that. it just takes time.

Nov 22 2011 6:01PM
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OnePlank
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he never sent me a copy of the receipt i don't think. I have all of the texts on my phone in front of me. I understand they may gotten lost in the mail, but he said he would refund me, and then he just stopped responding, so I didn't know what to think.

A response was all i really wanted, and the pants or 100 dollars of course.
Nov 22 2011 6:07PM
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Big_Spence
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Gooner, i know you've been watching this thread; is this a possibility?

just refund him the money for the time being, and eventually the pants will show up at either your house or his. if he gets the pants then you get your cash back, if you get the pants then you're even.

seems like the simplest way to squash this whole thing IMO.
Nov 22 2011 6:11PM
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EastCoastSkiier
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Because when people back out of a trade or sale that hasn't happened yet, there is no responsibility because there is no transfer of money. Once someone else has your money, it becomes a whole lot different. He agreed to a plan that was so beneficial to him, I was gonna give him all the time he needed to get the cash to refund, I'd pay shipping. This is all in callout 1, if you would look over those correspondences you would clearly see where the responsibilty lies and why i along with others on the "bandwagon" are so pissed off with this kid.
Nov 22 2011 6:13PM
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Craven
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He's definately a little fucker around 17 y/o
Nov 22 2011 6:15PM
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Big_Spence
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no, i won't waste my time looking at your stupid thread.

NO ONE IS GOING TO GIVE YOU YOUR MONEY BACK FOR A USED ITEM. ONCE YOU TRANSFER CASH TO SOMEONE FOR ANYTHING THEY ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO GIVE YOU A REFUND JUST BECAUSE YOU AREN'T HAPPY WITH THE CONDITION, ESPECIALLY IF IT HAD BEEN WELL PHOTOGRAPHED. JUST BECAUSE HE SAID "OH YEAH, I'LL TRADE YOU BACK THAT $200 YOU FOOLISHLY GAVE ME FOR SOME BEAT TO SHIT PANTS." DOESN'T MEAN THAT HE HAS TO. HOW WOULD SENDING YOU BACK $200 FOR A PAIR OF DUMPSTER PANTS EVER BE BENEFICIAL TO THE PERSON LOOSING THE MONEY? period. end of fucking discussion.

you are in the wrong, Gooner is in a moral grey area which certainly isn't "right" per-say, but i definitely wouldn't say he's doing anything wrong by getting some sense in his head and backing out of giving you your money back. i would do the exact same thing if i were in his shoes.
Nov 22 2011 6:20PM
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gharlam
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I said I meant it in the nicest way possible and that I have no qualms with you, what you said was just a little bit stupid an misinformed.

and according to this post of yours you are beginning to see the possibility that OH:

maybe he never sent the receipt like he claimed to
Nov 22 2011 6:22PM
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Big_Spence
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nope, not at all you little "fuck", i believe him entirely when he says he sent a picture and/or copy of the receipt. why would he go out of his way to PM me telling me that? what purpose or benefit would that serve him? it would do him no good, i'm just a simple observer of this retarded little shitstorm you little b/s/t n00bs got yourselves in to.
i think you're just made cause you ended up with the shitty pants when it was all said and done. lolz

now i say that all in the nicest way possible, i have no qualms with you.
Nov 22 2011 6:28PM
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EastCoastSkiier
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Oh, we got us an internet badass here do we?
Nov 22 2011 6:51PM
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gharlam
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im gonna ignore the little "fuck" part because in retrospect thats my fault and i shouldnt have said anything negative to you in the first place

but as for reasons, maybe he pmed you to get some support?

ask yourself this: why WOULD he pm you that information?

the OP clearly stated he has no records of the receipt, so how about Gooner posts a copy of the reciept on here...shouldnt be too hard for a seasoned NSer like him...pretty easy to do

and actually I feel pretty fucking good about the fact that those pants are in my closet-I feel good about being a good person and doing someone else a favor and ensuring that eastcoastskiier has a good pair of pants for a season

so as far as that goes, everyone from callout one feels good: ME, Eastcoast, and maybe gooner because hes got his stolen money (but hopefully he feels bad deep down because hes a little fuck and he knows it

and i appreciate that last part, i hope at some point in the future i can hook you up on something or vice versa


Nov 22 2011 6:55PM
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OnePlank
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exactly.
Nov 22 2011 10:23PM
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Parrish
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Okay im going to hop on with spence here.

Goonerville11 has done many a deal on here and hasn't had that many problems. Stuff does get lost in the mail quite a bit, and if he legitimately showed a receipt its proof that it did get lost. Granted that sucks for the OP and truthfully in this situation a good seller would refund the money till the pants showed up somewhere. be the better person and just do that Gooner.

Secondly on the top of you being scammed, you bought trashed up pants at an outrageous price. He showed you pictures and "Professionally sewed by my mom" usually 90% of the time does not end well. You sent the money, you knew the risks about buying. You should have asked for pictures for after his mommy sewed it or more detailed pictures. It might be a bit scummy selling you pants like that but he did, as is. This isn't some sort of store that you can always return what you buy. Its like a clearance sale and it depends on the person if they want to refund you.

Goonerville, just pay the kid the 100 dollars, it would end this shit. and Eastcoastskier, don't blame gooner for all your problems, its just how BST is.
Nov 23 2011 2:17AM
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gharlam
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First off, you and Spence keep going on an on about this receipt that Gooner showed OP even though he has said 3 times that he has never seen the receipt.  Stop taking Gooner at his word and accept the fact that although he was once a standup member, something happened in his life where he decided he needed some extra money, and he didn't have time to go about getting it honestly, so he would use his rep on NSers to scam a couple of kids and hopefully just write it off with different excuses, so that he didnt completely ruin his rep

Now I admit that EastCoast was stupid for offering 200 dollars for the gpants.  THey are now in my possession and are definitely beat to shit.  But Gooner went about selling them in a very scummy way.  When they arrived and EC was unhappy with them, an agreement was made about a return, that Gooner backed out on a couple weeks or so down the road.  It is all in callout 1 and more - including details of gooner being at outright prick. 

Please read the whole story, and not just the first 5 lines of his feedback before providing an opinion
Nov 23 2011 7:36AM
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ShreddAZ
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OP ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTION!

I SHOWED THE RECEIPT
Nov 23 2011 7:41AM
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gharlam
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he has said 2 or 3 times he doesnt remember ever seeing the receipt

how about you just provide it again, or better yet - just refund him the fucking money and wait for the pants to show up somewhere.  that solves the problem and actually makes you look like a good guy
Nov 23 2011 7:53AM
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Kangbang
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You are the asshole of hell.
Nov 23 2011 10:26AM
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gharlam
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Newschoolers should add a "like comment" feature like facebook
Nov 23 2011 11:06AM
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grindin101
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Just to jump in here, just read all these post and the OP has never once 100% confirmed that he never saw the receipt. It was always "I don't remember" or "I don't think", never an outright i have never seen it. Which in my books loses credibility on OPs part.

Either way the suggestion of refunding they money until the package shows up somewhere is easily the best option.

If gooner wanted to post a pic of the receipt on here so that everyone following believes him that it was sent, and check tracking as that should have been added, we'll know where it ends up so no further callouts can occur from this same situation.

Nov 23 2011 11:50AM
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Big_Spence
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this. this this this this.
Nov 23 2011 1:42PM
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Parrish
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He didn't have to refund anything, eastcoast got pictures that he asked for, and offered the money he did, it happens but in no way does that justify getting your money back. Some sellers will, many will not. Think about it, its a hassle. You sold something so you could get money you needed, usually you use said money when you get it. Then you worry about shipping back and all that crapola, not alot of people take the time to do all that.

Back to the OP, he never fully denied seeing the receipt as someone else has previously stated in this thread. Always vaguely talking about it. Everyone keeps siding with the buyer instead of the seller who might've been screwed himself by the postal service. Regardless of this, a really good seller would refund the money till things get worked out, but not everyone can financially do that.

Granted he might be an outright prick sometimes. Alot of people are. That doesn't mean he is a bad seller. Yes the bad temper might within itself might drive people away from buying from him, and if you don't like it, don't buy from him.
Nov 23 2011 3:35PM
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DannyMac
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If you sell something for 100 dollars wouldn't it make sense to get the 80 cent delivery confirmation to avoid all of this...  Goonerville said he shipped priority and the confirmation is usually included with priority shipping.  He's a dumb fuck if you didn't get delivery confirmation, and I doubt he did.
Nov 23 2011 4:06PM
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OnePlank
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by saying i don't remember seeing a receipt, i meant that i never saw a receipt. But he's claiming that he showed it so that's why i said it like that. Sorry that my wording was not crystal clear.
Nov 23 2011 6:04PM
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Lifestyles
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not to be a total buzzkill here or anything, I bought a lense from goonerville about 2 months ago and he was mad legit, good communication and shipped quickly, even hooked me up with a few free ski bands. just sayin.
Nov 23 2011 7:19PM
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Skiingsnow
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read the thread
Nov 23 2011 7:30PM
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Lifestyles
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no thanks, readings for rich people. reading the title was enough for me.
Nov 23 2011 7:55PM
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SlugInfinite
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Thanks for not contributing shit to the thread.
Nov 23 2011 8:07PM
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Parrish
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He contributed a positive feedback....
Nov 23 2011 11:10PM
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Craven
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So did you, well... supportive feedback
Nov 24 2011 10:49PM
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