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Soooo this is really happening

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jksl
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http://skilink.com/


i haven't seen anything about it on here so i'm sorry if there's already a post about it.

but....seriously??????
what kind of ridiculous useless gimmick will the canyons go through with with next?
Nov 18 2011 2:35PM
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skiingute
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I really don't see how it would reduce traffic. Most people come from the valley and will still have to drive up a canyon.
Nov 18 2011 2:45PM
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YewTard
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Yeahh there was a thread on it awhile back. Its retarded and a pure marketing ploy. Think about it if youre starting from the Can- Cabriolet--> Redpine Gondola--> some other lift--> "SkiLink"--> Soli parking lot--> Moonbeam--> Eagle--> finally time to ski!!..... at noon. Then what, maybe a lap through Honeycomb and time to go back? Ill pass...
Nov 18 2011 2:47PM
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shocker611
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this is NOT actually happening. That is all just information about it, somewhere on their it says that no plans have really been made and it is just an idea right now
Nov 18 2011 3:13PM
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BskiP
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rumors that talisker(canyons) may be looking to buy solitude? even if that happens it doesnt really make any sense.  another stupid tourist attracting shenanigan. Utah has done this a lot lately (orange bubble, tunnel at snowbird)
Nov 18 2011 3:53PM
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beezey
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It's happening, passed in dc already.
Nov 18 2011 4:06PM
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jksl
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hmm weird, i didn't really give it a good read but i just saw on the canyons facebook saying it was happening.

i know they've been talking about it for awhile but i thought they just decided to make it happen.

pretty sure it's more than an idea at this point...
Nov 18 2011 4:20PM
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R.Fahey
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"So this is realllly happening? We're really gonna do this?" - Aldous Snow.
Nov 18 2011 5:18PM
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R.Fahey
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The tunnel actually makes sense and is an improvement. Being able to ski Mineral without the tram is great.

As for the shit the Canyons has been pulling, not really necessary.

Nov 18 2011 5:24PM
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beezey
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I just talked to the gm for a half hour got a lot of information,, pm me if you want to discuss it but I won't post it on a public forum
Nov 18 2011 7:05PM
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R.Fahey
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you know whoever you ask is just gonna post it on here - skip the middle man and post it. is the GM is telling you, chances are it's somewhat public knowledge at least through the grapevine of ski area workers.
Nov 18 2011 8:02PM
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STAUSS
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hahahhahaha

dogg, that link chair is fucked.  so much money.  blow up big even more than it ever needs to be.  they should just spend that money at the canyons having a goddamn rager or maybe invest it into the terrain park...
Nov 18 2011 8:36PM
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shocker611
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look under the FAQ, it implies that it isnt really there yet.
Nov 18 2011 8:40PM
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woogity
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i really hope this doesnt happen.
Nov 19 2011 1:02AM
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BskiP
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Being able to ski mineral without the tram is great! but when the tunnel was built, it was definitely some touristy hype. over the top.
Nov 19 2011 2:28AM
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beezey
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Talked to the head guy of canyons
Nov 19 2011 10:26AM
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SFBv420.0
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Yeah I talked talked to MG too worked for him for more than a decade, bet he told me different than some chic who showed up last month.

That horse shit aint passed congress and probably won't. Save or canyons and a eis is gonna happen rich Canidian taliwhackers aint gonna just buy politicians to do their biddin. they may try.

Tourism hurts in Utardia because of silly right wing liquor laws and the morality police.

the cult of latter dat kookalas don't get it.

Why do you think vegas rocks in tourism??? and Colorado recieves more skier days than utah despite sub snowfall totals.

and ganjolain pc tourist who figure out thewasatch back is meh to the max when compared to the cottonwoods.

Call WHORIN SNATCH and Bob got my hand out for relection $$$ Lee tell them don't fuckin disney the bcc so talisker and sillytude can sell more real estate

Thank jah Mathison aint down with this crap

Nov 19 2011 10:35AM
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SFBv420.0
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why would you ride moonunit to go to Eagle?

smoke rise To summit to the goods man i need to show you the sillytude goods well if they decide to open any of em this season.

Nov 19 2011 10:58AM
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SkiBum.
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This is not going to happen, just FYI. I don't care what some small press release says, this won't happen.


And if for some reason it does happen, this is 5 years out.
Nov 19 2011 10:45PM
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dylhole
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It's a few years out, but from what I gather it is happening.  But who cares?  It is not going to increase ski traffic in the backcountry and wont have any effect on pow days.  You take 3 or 4 lifts to get on the skilink or whatever, wont get into BCC until 11--any powder a tourist is after is long gone by then. 

If you dont like it, just drive your car down and up.  Its a good marketing ploy to make Canyons look like a premier destination for tourists--you get all the tourist attractions/restaurants/shops/bars of PC, but then have access to the famed Wasatch front powder.  The more I think about it, the better almost.  More tourists come to Canyons/Solitude and I never ski either of em really.

Nov 20 2011 11:18AM
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thisisastickup
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does anybody else want to go monkey wrench gang on this shit if it happens? utah does not need to be colorado. someone's got to keep the yuppies out.
Nov 20 2011 12:03PM
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beezey
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It's a ski resort, all of them are competing to be the best. It's obvious they will try to move forward. There will be no mid stations and no roads so back country access will be no easier
Nov 20 2011 2:42PM
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intifada
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i dont see why everyone is getting so worked up about this. Something of this nature was going to happen eventually.
Nov 20 2011 4:12PM
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ectreeskier11
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because anyone with half a brain can think up at least 3 ways of doing this that will accomplish the goal much better and benefit more resorts and customers, not to mention backcountry skiers, who obviously do not factor into a resort's plan.
Nov 20 2011 6:29PM
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intifada
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enlighten me
Nov 20 2011 6:57PM
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ectreeskier11
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honestly, i don't think there's a better option than maintaining and improving upon the existing guardsmen road. you could then link BCC and LCC with a public ski lift or even a tunnel of some sort and boom, you've got everything connected with almost no further impact anywhere.
Nov 20 2011 7:02PM
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ectreeskier11
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especially considering that with the cat skiing alta is already pretty much maintaining grizzly gulch as an inbounds area.
Nov 20 2011 7:05PM
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jksl
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that's one way of looking at it.
i remember 2/3 years ago thinking the canyons would be the place to be.
well now it is, if you live in new jersey.
Nov 21 2011 11:18AM
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intifada
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tell me who is going to pay for maintaining and improving guardsmans. Who is going to pay for the snow removal of a MOUNTAIN PASS. How much do you think all that would cost every year? The point of this is to connect without having to drive. And a tunnel from BCC to LCC really?
Nov 21 2011 2:48PM
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ectreeskier11
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wow, talisker marketing is really doing their job well.
Nov 21 2011 3:58PM
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intifada
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i'm not really supporting the canyons plans for a connecting lift to solitude, i am very indifferent towards it. I'm just calling your guardsmans pass solution idiotic. Do you really want yet another traffic jam prone road into the canyon with even more cars and pollution brought into BCC.
Nov 21 2011 4:08PM
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dylhole
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Id rather let Talisker pay to put in their chairlift than have our taxes pay to keep Guardsman's clear of snow, plus its an incredibley fun sled zone.  I don't understand why anyone is really that bent out of shape about this proposition other than for environmental reasons (which I havent heard from this forum yet).  It's simply a marketing ploy to get tourists to come ski Canyons.

I bet 75% of Park City locals choose to drive to BCC instead of taking this chairlift.  How many of you choose to drive up BCC or LCC instead of taking the free bus becuase its more time consuming?  I certainly do.  It won't have very much impact at all I dont think.

Nov 21 2011 4:51PM
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titsLOL
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whoa hold on... the orange bubble is sweet.
Nov 21 2011 5:23PM
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djty111
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If this does happen which is unlikely it will be years out. The train idea is much better than a lift going just to Solitude. Hum Canyons & Solitude I smell Mike Goar.
Nov 21 2011 5:47PM
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djty111
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Oh and beezy dont trust what anyone says at that junkshow.
Nov 21 2011 5:52PM
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ectreeskier11
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talisker has mismanaged so much shit already it would be a shame to let them do this and fuck something like the wasatch crest trail up. that's probably the thing that pisses me off most about it.
Nov 21 2011 6:50PM
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beezey
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It was a board meeting we talked to the vp an the gm and questioned anything we could think of. We all ski and have the same intent as you.
Nov 21 2011 6:53PM
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skiingute
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My buddies dad does development for the canyons when we went skiing yesterday this came up. The lift was confirmed but it will be at least 3 years out with most likely 5-6 years out being when they break ground. If past canyons construction has been an indication it's probably like 7-8 years from completion if at all seeing as I don't think investors are going to want to jump it and support it.
Nov 21 2011 7:36PM
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beezey
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Ya it def not happening anytime soon
Nov 21 2011 8:13PM
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SkiBum.
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Sorry for your buddies Dad...

Maybe they should fix the bridges and retaining walls in the Colony first...

Maybe they should finish their golf course first...

Maybe they should re-fix their base area because it still sucks...

I give Tallisker 3 more years before they end up on the same path ASC did with Canhole...




Nov 21 2011 8:29PM
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dylhole
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I don't think you know how much money Talisker has.  Jack bought Canyons with cash, from his personal checking account from what I hear. 
Nov 21 2011 9:16PM
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skiingute
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You don't understand how construction and development work. Way more than a majority of people that actually do the development are contracted by Talisker and are not employed by them.
Nov 21 2011 9:19PM
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andrewmeehan
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people keep bitching about how its going to ruin the backcountry, but its not like they are building a gondola to the top of 9990' area. its just going up and over. they are not trying to make steep shit accessible to beginners.

I'm for nor against this. Im just gonna sit dormant for a bit, and see how it all pans out.
Nov 21 2011 9:41PM
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djty111
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beezy...I don't care what meeting you were in or if Jack told you personaly what the plans are. At the Can you need to take everything with a grain of sait. Oh and dylhole from my experience over the last five years at The Canyons and Talisker is that they are not as well off as you might think. Yes Jack Bistricer is loaded but the Can and Talisker have had a very hard time paying many bills latily and the real estate biz is floundering. (which is the biz that talisker was and is originaly in. This is 10 years out earlyest. That's if save our canyons cannot get the Upper Big Cottonwoods Wilderness areas passed.
Nov 21 2011 11:58PM
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djty111
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"*grain of salt"
Nov 22 2011 12:02AM
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SFBv420.0
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qft all the ganjalos $$$ went up in smoke

as pipe freams do lifts in silly fork yeah right

Dylio MG is a stud and one of the most righteous bros I ever worked for

and other than workin there The vibe I get from him is he would rather not deal with the Gare bear or JR

But smellin sumthin and knowin wtf youre talkin bout is real different bro

and if he was there this so solitude lame ass waste of $$$$ for a giant birthday snowman cake wouldn't have sucked

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Nov 22 2011 12:52AM
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SFBv420.0
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so you like to get high munch gash too?

no we aint intersted in fuckin up sweet roll bowl with any sillysolitaliwhacker ganjola " FOR THOSE WHO CAN"T bullshit lift towers and steeze tard yellin out the windows want ski expansion by skins and become avvy edjumacated and begin sliding one ski in front of the other till you expand.

Nov 22 2011 1:04AM
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djty111
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http://www.ksl.com/?nid=960&sid=18332246&title=ski-connect-proposal-meets-opposition-from-mayors-becker-corroon
Dec 5 2011 7:34PM
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NoSkillsCrew
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It is more than idea at this point. Talisker is making moves to buy the land from the government. This will happen if Utah is able to take control of publicly held lands as they are trying to do.

Read this written by local awesome BC girl Caset O'Malley it gets to the heart of the shit.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/opinion/55357976-82/public-gondola-lake-salt.html.csp
Dec 19 2012 7:36PM
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jksl
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i've read up a bunch on it since i posted this, but thanks
Dec 21 2012 6:33PM
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nhjibber
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seeing this happen makes me sick to my stomach.  Its not going to take any cars off the road because you have to take 5 lifts just to get to the proposed ski link base, which will take about 2 hours at the canyons.  Who is going to ride the ski link when it will get them to Solitude at 11 when you could drive and be there at 9..  It would be practical if the lift went out of the base area and didnt require the purchase of a canyons/ solitude pass.  There are so many better ways to achieve the goal of having less traffic on the roads.  IE Expand the bus schedule, build a rail system, build a lift out of the Downtown Park City that doesn't require riding of additional lifts.  Then there is also the precedent it will set.  Once they build the lift they will then start trying to develop the area with houses etc, even if they don't say this now, this is how these things work.  Not to mention it goes right across the Wasatch Crest trail one of the most high traveled area's by bikers/hikers etc in the Wasatch 
Dec 21 2012 9:56PM
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