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Asymmetrical Twin tips

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pandolfo
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Do you guys think if asym twins are mounted center will make their performence worse. The guy im buying my skis from (salomon suspects) said that mounting them true center would make them hard to handle. I ski park and groomers. I want my skis to be center for better tricks and grinding but will doing this make them harder for me to handle downhill
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afterbang_me
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I think you'll be fine mounting them true center.   Most skis aren't recommended to be mounted true center but a lot of people do and have no issues.  I have a pair of Moment PBJs that I mounted true center and they ski great even though they are recommended at 5cm back.

Spark notes: you shouldnt have a problem mounting them true center
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snowmosexual
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suspects are made to be set center so go center
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pandolfo
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thats what i told the guy but he said the performence downhill will be a little off ive never rode on asym skis so u guys would have to tell me whats better
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NEEDMOSNOW
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i ride suspects desd center it enen says performance mount on the top sheet at dead center
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-KJ-
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i have no problem ridding my skis true center..and i have the suspects...they ride just fine
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.squirrely.
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doesnt bobby ride suspects a little behind true center? maybe not all the time but in his grand bizarre segment a few shots look like he has them mounted back
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Heart
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It's not very noticeable. I have my Chronics mounted center and they perform great on groomers. Mounting 1 or 2 cm back is alright too though from what I've heard.
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.Ian.
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I have 4frnt TNK's mounted true center. I don't have any problems on groomers or just regular skiing, plus riding switch is so easy.
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Davy.Crockett
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may as well jump in here, im thinking about getting el reys or ar7s, where should i mount? core center, or dead center? would there really be a noticeable difference?
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kirbstopper
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I've only ridden asymmetrical skis and I put them all at -1.5 from true center, seems to work perfectly fine for regular and switch.
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pandolfo
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yea the guy said if you mount center it might ride "squirlly" what ever the fuck that means haha. But you said they ride well down hill, like blacks and double black diamonds would be fine going down?

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NEEDMOSNOW
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yes i ripped down lutsen mtn (if your from the midwest you no its the steepest hill by far) and i had no problems i mean every thing double b lacks and all
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steezy.stew
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I just picked up some fresh chronics and am experiencing the same problem. if i ski 50% park and 50% all mountain east coast crap where should i mount them?
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pandolfo
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you have the suspects and you mount them center?
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oil.
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it only makes a difference when your carving because the you wont be pressuring the part of the ski where the apex of the radius is supposed to be (the narrowest part). if that made any sense
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pandolfo
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yea that makes sense
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Steeze_Minister
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Due to my bindings breaking, I had my chronics mounted centered for a while and 2 back. Skiing 2 back and centered is pretty similar, I skied the same with both
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Bloc_chain
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why is this in SG and not gear talk?

First off, you shouldn't buy suspects, they are fucking terrible. Mounting a non-symmetrical ski center just fights the sidecut, there for not allowing them to turn as well. If you are just riding the park, its not as big of a deal, but if you venture out onto the rest of the mountain, you will notice it.

Symmetrical skis: dead center
non symmetrical: -2 to -3
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californiagrown
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you ski in new jersey. what downhill do you have to go down hill on? and did you really ask if they could go down a double black?
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pandolfo
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yea i go to camelback, and yea idk y i asked that i was just wondering if they would like turn well and handle well even tho they are non-symmetrical twins mounted center
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KravtZ
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They will handle worse because they arent symetrical. Mount those fuckers somewhere behind center and they will ski way better otherwise youll be leaning back constant to get some good turns in. Mount them back you can ski switch fine otherwise just get a fucking symetrical ski. You ski in fucking jersey it really probably doesnt matter that much
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Gmart
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im mounting my skis center, i dunno much about the suspects but i know the afterbangs are asymmetrical so thats why im doing it. I would think center mounting would just take a little getting used to thats all, (i work at a ski shop and thats what i've heard) But if your really on the edge I know the marker schizo binding allows the binding to be moved 3cm forward or backward if you wanna do park or pow so i dunno i'd look into those. i guess you gotta try center mounting and see how they feel, thats what im doing. If you don't like em centermounted redrill em, as long this isn't the third time they've been drilled your all ghood
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pandolfo
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well I'm getting salomon sth 12 bindings because if you get salomon bindings it makes the warranty 2 years instead of 1
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Bloc_chain
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doesn't make a difference, the second you hit a rail your warranty is void
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pandolfo
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they don't support warranty if u break them on rails?
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.nasty
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you don't even have to break them, as soon as it touches a rail (and are able to notice it) the warranty is void.
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Whatsonboss
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Nope, as soon as u slide that first rail it's game over
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pandolfo
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whats the point of the warranty then
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pandolfo
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Salomon's warranty does not cover the following :

- Damage caused by misuse, abuse, neglect or normal wear-and-tear.
- Damage caused during storage.
- Oxidized or rusted components, such as hardware and edges.
- Damage resulting from tuning machines, grinders or waxes, including solvents, cleaners and polishes. - Improper fitting or sizing of products.

- Any type of impact damage resulting in cosmetic/top edge damage, i.e. top sheet chipping


doesn't say anything about grinding damage

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.nasty
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to protect against manufacturing defects like say delaming after 1 or 2 uses. Think about it, your jumping onto a hard as shit piece of metal and grinding your edges on it...
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Whatsonboss
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Banging ur skis against rails and boxes is classes as impact damage and WILL void the warranty, the edges will blow out on suspects in no time from sliding rails. I know cause I've had them bust out on me
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Whatsonboss
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Please read thoroughly https://www.newschoolers.com/ns/mobile/forumread/id/618489/
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onenerdykid
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It falls under "impact damage" and "abuse" and every ski manufacturer has the same policy. Warranty means the company produced a product incorrectly and it failed because of their mistake. You smashing a ski onto a metal rail does not constitute a warranty, it constitutes you smashing a ski onto a metal rail. And no company can make a ski that will continually survive that kind of abuse.
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Whatsonboss
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It will be fine though cause it has that edge armour..................................
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Gmart
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good choice! i got the same bindings for my blend, i hope u got the driver toe and not the oversized just a fyi
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pandolfo
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i forget witch i got, whats the difference
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