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The best way to honor 9/11 victims this 10th anniversary

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eldridge
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Demand the truth about building 7.

Sep 4 2011 11:37AM
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eldridge
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i jacked my own thread? lol your request has been fulfilled, just live your life never questioning anything, thatsd the way to go.
Sep 5 2011 2:35PM
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Hoppy
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No i agree, we should question things and not act like sheep. I just think the timing of a debate on whether it was the US government or Osama who killed 3000 people, is a little off.

Sep 5 2011 2:48PM
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basedjase
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Holy shit. Shut the fuck up and get out. You've posted nothing but useless garbage.

And to the OP, simply thank you for bringing this up. Needed to be brought up that there are serious discrepancies in the investigations of that building.
Sep 5 2011 2:48PM
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WVskiing
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Your and idiot. You have pictures of bongs and shit on your profile and expect us to take your serious> GTFO of america you 9/11 conspirator theory asshole 
Sep 5 2011 2:57PM
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PurpleDino
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Your grammar is that of a third graders.
Sep 5 2011 3:00PM
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Six.0.Tree-ski
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gtfo of middle school
Sep 5 2011 3:38PM
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eldridge
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lol

Sep 5 2011 3:42PM
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[cmyk]
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the most patriotic thing we can do as americans is question our govt. our country was founded on the belief that our govt should be kept in check. if you dont ask questions the govt could get away with anything.  
Sep 5 2011 5:02PM
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jblaski
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Did you actually read anything I posted? Or did you just quote me and spew your propaganda conspiracy bullshit? Did you watch the video I posted that CLEARLY shows that it took around 15 seconds to collapse?

And yes, paper and wood won't get hot enough to melt steel. But of course there's also TONS and TONS of hydrocarbon based products in the building. Computers, chairs, carpet, wiring, etc. All of which create much higher temperatures. Also, there was 12,000 gallons of diesel fuel stored in WTC 7. And lastly, did you know that steel looses 50% of it's strength at 60% of it's melting temperature. The 60% temperature is WELL within the temperatures reached in the WTC fires.

Thermite may not have been tested for by NIST, but it was tested for many many times by many groups. Oddly enough, it was still never found.

As for the molten steel. Please, show me the evidence.
Sep 5 2011 9:16PM
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eldridge
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multiple photographs and actual physical pieces of fused steel and concrete, clearly shown in the last few minutes of my video. Also, firefighter eye witness testimony, and you wouldnt wanna call them liars now would you? What about how the building descended in freefall for nearly 100 feet, which is completely impossible as a result of one colum failure on one floor, as the NIST report suggest?
Sep 5 2011 9:59PM
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Campeador
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Alright you loose change demagogue, here's the video again, with a slow enough countdown even for you.



The penthouse at the top collapses first, another guy posted that same footage on page 2. Let me guess, you didn't watch it, after demanding that everyone view your bullshit video. I think your dealer has been adding Pine Sol to your shitty east coast weed, because it's clear that you've smoked yourself retarded. Go back to what you do best, which is listen to hippie jam bands and spend your parent's money on overpriced bongs.

Your imaginary search for "truth" is nothing more than you trying to bolster your own ego. You're not special, don't get a hard-on walking around as if you know something everyone else is too stupid to see. Posting a video of a bunch of prejudiced half-wits with letters behind their names does nothing for your ridiculous view. If you actually believe that no one on the ground knew the building would collapse before it did, then you are so deep in your conspiracy theory bullshit you might as well drown.


Making a 9/11 memorial thread to "demand truth" is shameful. You are scum.



Sep 6 2011 1:50AM
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IHeartWeasels
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Sep 6 2011 2:41AM
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eldridge
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you know what kid, you can suck my fucking balls. My parents are fuck ups and dont give me shit, im putting ymself through college. Everything I own, ive worked my ass off for. But this thread isnt about me, its about how the government is witholding the whole truth from us. Leave your petty insults out of this, 1500+ architects, engineers, and chemist all demand the truth WITH the backing of 911 families. So hop off my balls for a second, open your god damn mind, realize that im not trying to implicate anyone, im just trying to show the NIST report is complete bullshit and a proper investigation NEEDS to be done. PLEASE explain to me how this building entered freefall for nearly 100 feet. It sure as hell was because one column on one floor gave way. PLEASE tell me how my video is prejuidiced at all, these are incredibly smart people who followed where the evidence leads with NO bias. Are the 9/11 family members demanding the truth scum? Are the firefighters demanding the truth scum? If anyone is trying to bolster their ego, its you by insulting me thinking some fucking 14 yr old on NS will think youre real smart and cool. BTW, my ROOR zumo isnt overpriced, and your pussy little lungs couldnt handle it ;)
Sep 6 2011 11:24AM
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eldridge
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and the fact that the penthouse collapses a few sceonds before the entire building has nothing to do with the fact that when the building gives way, it comes down in under 7 seconds with no structural resistance. The building would not have came down nearly as quickly or neatly had only one column on one floor failed as the NIST report suggests. Not once have I claimed that the government took this building down, my point in making this thread was to show that the NIST report (governments account of what happened) is absolutely false. Whether you think there was foul play involved or not, you have to agree that a NIST report claiming that normal office fires fueled by furniture and paper brought this building down in that manner it came down is absolute garbage. This building went from motionless to freefall, which is not indictive of a collapse due to fire.
Sep 6 2011 11:35AM
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eldridge
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The penthouse collapsing is also indictive of an implosion, shown in my video when WTC7 is compared with an actual acknowledged demolition of a similar building. The penthouse on that building collapses followed by the incredibly fast descent of the building, which is very similar to what happened to WTC7

Sep 6 2011 11:39AM
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PJS.
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Why is he your friend...
Sep 6 2011 11:40AM
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Big_Spence
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watched the video, don't know what to think. a further investigation should probably be conducted but i really don't ever see it happening. obviously if there was a unbiased investigation there would be some sort of evidence of demolition.

it's very clear our government is fucked but so is every other countries all around the world.
Sep 6 2011 12:08PM
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Six.0.Tree-ski
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plain and simple.
Sep 6 2011 12:37PM
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Waldo-
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i perfer this
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Sep 6 2011 1:05PM
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twix_182
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The ONLY way to do anything in America is rebellion. No difference with anywhere else. Noones gonna do it though. We think we're free. Freedom of speech isn't really that great of a right unless you use it the right way. Government wont get affected by words, they get affected by actions. Round up millions of people and get them all to demand answers or else hell will break loose. Then by that time the government will probably fight back, saying they're trying to control violent Americans.

We COULD get what we want if we had enough people to fight for the cause. If it gets big enough, I'm sure the military would get involved to control the"situation".  Then by that time ppl would realize how fucked our gov. really is and either do something about it, or sit by with the full knowledge.







Sep 6 2011 1:29PM
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Jamestown
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So thaaaat's where you got it from. This thread makes sense now.
Sep 6 2011 2:10PM
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Lord.Quasimoto
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didn't watch video and wont waste my time with that shit. ive seen them before and they are all the same. when it comes down to it there is no way the gov't planned to kill thier own civilians. i dont care how muhc bullhsit you layer on me - Osama is the answer that makes sense.

its sad how caught up in this bullshit people will get and then try to talk down to others. its a case of the pot calling the tea kettle black. now please tell me how im brain-washed and you are the one who has more knowledge about how the world works.
Sep 6 2011 2:31PM
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Ski_the_east01
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I love you...10/10
Sep 6 2011 2:31PM
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PJS.
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Id like to meet you someday, so i can personally give you the finger and kick you in the vagina.
Sep 6 2011 2:33PM
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ImNotARacist
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Everyone who believes in the conspiracy theory is like really stupid and shit.
Sep 6 2011 2:50PM
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Jamestown
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Make absolutely sure she can't reproduce please.
Sep 6 2011 2:55PM
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Brenone
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Hey
Fuck you
Sep 6 2011 3:00PM
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eldridge
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wow

anyone who questions anything ever is a fucking moron!

No way the government planned to kill its own civilians, just all the soldiers they send to pointless wars right?

I didnt implicate anyone, especially not the government, in destroying WTC7. I simply posted the video to show that the NIST report (the governments version of events) is obviously lacking and not a satisfactory investigation of what happened.

but you just keep living your life, never questioning anyone or thing in power

Sep 6 2011 4:00PM
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feihlination
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please guys. just think about that



US military spending since 1946
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0904490.html
notice that iraq and afghanistan war costs arent included in these numbers.

the US had a constant-to-decreasing military budget from 1995-2001 (around 300-350 billion $/year). from that on, it skyrocketed to around 490-520 billion $/year.


the owner benefitted as he received 4.5 billion $ instead of 3.5 billion $ due to some technical insurance details and trials.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Silverstein#Insurance_dispute

just imagine how many people get killed, hijacked, literally erased for hundreds, thousands or millions of dollars.

i dont find it hard to believe that somebody actively set this thing up, because he or someone else could make benefits in the area of 200 billion $ per year.
Sep 6 2011 7:36PM
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babujib
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this.
shut the fuck up you sniveling little pussy and have some half-decent respect instead of saying that showing this video is "the BEST WAY to honor 9/11 victims." Fuck you. fuck this thread.
Sep 6 2011 7:39PM
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feihlination
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bill o reilly has an ns account



great way of discussing. personal attacks on the counterparty are typical "instruments" of people like you.

and this emotional thing with the victims is also awesome. idk how disrespectful it is to ask for a INDEPENDENT ANALYSIS.
Sep 6 2011 7:44PM
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snowbombz
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the moon landing, and the moon for that matter are fake.
Sep 6 2011 8:04PM
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snowbombz
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same here!
Sep 6 2011 8:07PM
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feihlination
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classic "discussion" attempt. bring up the dumbest element of the conspiracy or another complete bullshit conspiracy to make them look stupid while omitting to destroy real and important facts.

only topped by the personal, offending "argument".
Sep 6 2011 8:08PM
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eldridge
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asking for a fair and thorough investigation of what happened to WTC7 shouldnt offend you that much. I think you taking offense to that makes you more of a "sniveling little pussy" as you so eloquently put it.
Sep 6 2011 8:45PM
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eldridge
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your username pretty much sums up everyone flaming me.

Sep 6 2011 8:47PM
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ButteredToast.
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I haven't watched the whole video, and I'm in NO WAY a conspiracy theorist, but I know a whole lot of people (including myself), that question what actually happened with WTC 7.

If I'm not mistaken - and correct me if I'm wrong - not a single thing touched WTC 7 before it collapsed. It just... went.

I'm not saying it was the government because, hell, it could have been terrorists, but a building just simply DOESN'T. FUCKING. DO. THAT.

^that took a lot of HTML tagging
Sep 6 2011 9:18PM
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PurpleDino
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I guess Immortal Technique is the most crazy conspiracy theorist, right?  (e-sarcasm.  I'm with you OP.)
Sep 6 2011 9:43PM
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Che~
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You really need to calm down, you are starting to sound like a fucking idiot
Sep 6 2011 11:13PM
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jblaski
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You should really do some more research.

But I will correct you, because you are mistaken. WTC7 took a huge hit when WTC1 fell. By all accounts, there was a 20 story gash in the side of the building, that started multiple large fires inside.
Sep 6 2011 11:17PM
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yellav
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im actually more leaning towards the truth movement brah.

the "best way to honor 9/11 victims" is to show their family members respect and give them some space, not shoving this in their face. it is a very emotional time and shoving shit down peoples throat that are coping with death is not cool at all. im not personally attacking anyone what i quoted was someone acting like hes so cool because hes in the know about loose change dudebroman. literally reminds me of when i was 13 years old after all this happened. pushing your views on someone is wrong, thats all i addressed in my post. good call on the oreilly action though, totally what im about.
Sep 6 2011 11:34PM
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eldridge
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what dont you get about the video i posted having the backing of multiple 9/11 families? Theyre in the video, i dont think those in the video want "space" they want more publicity about how the NIST report is inept.

Sep 6 2011 11:41PM
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jblaski
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So there's a few families that want the "truth". You realized there's thousands and thousands of families that don't think this is some bullshit conspiracy.

Just like your bullshit excuse of "1500 architects". There's 100's of thousands of architects in the US. So well under 1% think this is a conspiracy. Guess what, those 1% are just as dumb as everyone else that thinks it's an inside job.

Sep 6 2011 11:47PM
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californiagrown
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there are a lot more than 1500+ chemists, Engineers, and ARchitects in the USA...whay arent the majority, or even a significant slice questioning this.

Architects are artists...dont get them confused with someone who actually knows how to do structural analysis.

The twin towers collapse is extremely plausible...the smaller one doesnt make much sense to me...but then again, none of us know much about it. OP is too stupid to make sense of anything thhat is released anyways.

Sep 6 2011 11:56PM
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californiagrown
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and they speak for the majority of 9/11 victims families?
Sep 6 2011 11:57PM
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Leeyum
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Why is it so hard to believe that 2 - 255,000 pound aircraft flying hundreds of miles an hour slammed into a narrow high-standing structure and brought it down? The sheer force of one tower coming down/ let alone 2 - could easily compromise nearby buildings. The towers weighed 500000 tons a piece (look it up). Now picture shards of the heavy debris falling around all locations - its not that hard to realize why tower 7 came down when you think about these details, the ground was fucked within a several block radius. There is no way the government is hiding the true murderers of 9/11 - it was a bunch of pissed off muslim extremists!
Sep 7 2011 12:39AM
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Campeador
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The problem is that you don't really want an investigation, you just want confirmation. Confirmation for your irrational conclusions.
Sep 7 2011 1:51AM
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snowbombz
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while i believe that there are lots of unanswered questions about 9/11, i have to agree with this post
Sep 7 2011 2:22AM
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ButteredToast.
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Sep 7 2011 3:07AM
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BrownBomber
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I refuse to believe this V for Vendetta type shit. How could our government, or one man for that matter, seriously inflict this catastrophe on its own people, the people that give them power?

I Strongly disagree with alot of politicians, but nobody is that stupid.
Sep 7 2011 4:22AM
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