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Tips for teaching a women to drive manual?

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Liam.Butler
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I'm having a hard time teaching my girlfriend to drive stick, she has already mastered sandwiches and house cleaning. In serious though any tips? I am extremely patient but that does not seem to help.
Aug 30 2011 6:56PM
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maxwell666
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you are so full of shit, if you had no one told you what anything did, and you couldnt already drive, you cant just 'learn it on your own'. you knew what a clutch was and a throttle, maybe you hadnt tried a clutch but you knew how it worked from someone. and plenty of guys have self esteem issues as well. a friend of mine committed suicide at 17, he sure wasnt the picture of happiness the last time i saw him. fuck you.
Sep 1 2011 2:08AM
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Twinjibber77
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I like this
Sep 1 2011 2:47AM
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Cufe.
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teach her to keep the foot down at all times, then dump the clutch and roll like a pro. also, second gear is the way to go. first is for chumps.
Sep 1 2011 2:58AM
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shintastic48
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I don't date girl who don't know how to drive stick from the start. lololololololol. JK. I had to help my friend once. I wasn't very good at it because I was trying to explain to her how a clutch works ect ect. So don't do that. She got it eventually. just from watching my feet and right hand. Try that.
Sep 1 2011 3:03AM
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toominator
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Cummins make engines not cars...

Though depending on the size of the girl you possibly could literally throw her inside a Cummins.

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Sep 1 2011 4:49AM
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jonny828
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not that i am against that..but i guess i shouldve clarified.

however, a ram with a cummins will do fine for teaching in!
Sep 1 2011 9:35AM
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Mavrck
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didnt read any responses besides the OP.sorry.

everyone always told me to just add gass slowely and release clutch slowely. That makes perfect sense to someone that knows how to drive stick already but not nearly specific enough for the person that doest. so after watching countless videos I figured out.

step one. find flat open parkinglot.
step two. turn car on put in neutral. practice pushing clutch all the way to the floor and releasing as slowwwww as possible.
step three. shift to first gear with clutch to the floor and have her let the clutch out as slowely(no gas) as she can until she can feel the car start to move then push it in again. do this multiple times with her holding the clutch at that friction point for a couple seconds.
step four do the same thing but once the car starts moving from the friction point add a smidge of gas and make sure she continues letting the clutch out as slowely as possible.

After a bunch of times she'll become more familiar with the friction point and will beable to add gas before the friction point and let the cluthc out faster.
after that its just making sure she doesn't put her foot through the floor on the gas in the second and third gear shifts.


What I explained could be terrible for you clutch I have no idea that was the easiest way I saw taught on youtube. I've only driven standard like 4 times in a parking lot but I'm pretty sure I could get a car across town if need be (avoiding serious hills) under those techniques.

Sep 1 2011 10:46AM
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B-runge
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i have been driving a manual for about a year (since i started driving) and i have no idea about the mechanics or what is bad for the clutch or what to do
haha

anyone wanna tell me
Sep 1 2011 8:04PM
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J.M
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clutch engages the gear and makes the car move. what is bad for the clutch is when you "burn" up the clutch. you do this any time the clutch is pushed in with the gas pedal. so you always burn in the clutch, that why it is better to shift quickly as possible so you dont burn up the clutch.
Sep 1 2011 8:16PM
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drumbumocdp
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If its your car, get ready to buy a new clutch soon.
Sep 1 2011 9:35PM
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Mavrck
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I'm 60-93% sure thats not what burning the clutch is. Burning the clutch is when it's half engaged half not and your holding it there. Pushing the clutch all the way in disengages the engine to the drive train. There is no wear when it's all the way in
Sep 1 2011 9:47PM
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J.M
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yeah, this is what i meant. when it grazes the gears, it wears down the clutch. and the clutch disengages and engages the drivetrain from the gears.
Sep 1 2011 10:21PM
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Mavrck
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word
Sep 1 2011 11:13PM
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shintastic48
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More or less just rev match and your tranny will be fine.
Sep 1 2011 11:41PM
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J.M
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i found his videos to help out a lot. the 2nd camera is key

after basics.....

and he has more. not the best explainer, but he knows what hes doing.

Sep 2 2011 12:14AM
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icon1234
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^I just got a 02 wrx, and it is my first manual car. Never knew what rev matching was until watching those videos, stoked I actually learned something now.
Sep 2 2011 3:32AM
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J.M
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he has more videos on driving if you click on his channel
Sep 2 2011 3:04PM
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andstuff
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Random question: is it bad to coast with the clutch pushed in all the way? I drive in neutral 50% of the time and just coast around using the breaks (live in the hills), but sometimes when I'm in gear I just hold down the clutch and coast downhill for a while (mostly on the interstate).
Sep 2 2011 4:32PM
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alexat955
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ive heard both yes and no, i personally put my car in neutral but i dont think it matters that much. but its bad to coast in neutral on the freeway for a long time according to my dad because if your engine dies for any reason you lose power steering and braking
Sep 2 2011 4:40PM
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J.M
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i would not recommend driving in neutral. neutral is only meant for being stopped/parked. also for doing rev matching, single/double clutching. so lets say you are on the highway and you are currently in neutral, a car in front of you changes into your lane and cuts you off, you have to manuver quickly and get out of the way. you cannot do that when you are in neutral when you gotta add some gas.
Sep 2 2011 5:00PM
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andstuff
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Huh? The brakes still work. Why would I need to add gas if I want to slow down?
Sep 2 2011 5:21PM
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andstuff
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to save gas dumy
Sep 2 2011 5:38PM
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potato_man
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make her practice with your dick
Sep 2 2011 8:09PM
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Liam.Butler
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UPDATE: I came home today and the house was clean and a grill cheese sandwich was ready for me, It tasted good. That is all
Sep 2 2011 8:22PM
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tronned
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I love the lulz. Awful post. "double clutching/ rev matching".
Its better to leave the car in neutral. Any time your foot is depressing the clutch, that is wearing the clutch, so if youre going to cruise, slam it into N and go with the flow.
Sep 2 2011 8:26PM
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andstuff
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So either I'm damaging my car by pressing the clutch and coasting the downhill segments of the highway while in gear, or I'm damaging my car by coasting in neutral and controlling speed with my breaks.

So which is it?

(btw I'm fully aware of using low gears on long downhills and how it saves break pads, but I'm talking about short segments.)
Sep 2 2011 9:04PM
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tronned
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never use your transmission to brake your car. It costs 10 fold to replace a transmission/clutch than it does to do brakes. The only time you should be concerned is if you live in mountain passes of the most aggressive nature that will heat soak your brakes, which is pretty unlikely. Always use your brakes to stop, not fucking downshifting. Downshifting to stop is a clear indication of a person who think they are a racecar driver and will end up cutting their clutch's life in half. Coast in neutral does no damage what so ever, so do it as your heart contents. I just rebuilt a transmission last week at work, i know how this shit works.
Sep 2 2011 11:19PM
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andstuff
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I don't downshift to break, what I meant is that I put my car in a lower gear when driving downhill for a long period of time rather than riding the breaks the whole way. Simple stuff.

but thanks its good to know I'm in the clear coastin' neutral!
Sep 2 2011 11:22PM
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shintastic48
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Or you could rev match. Which would be just like changed gears. Engine braking FTW
Sep 2 2011 11:26PM
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icon1234
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So I tried rev matching today, didn't quite get it, so I just want to make sure i got the idea right... So lets say you are in 3rd gear and want to downshift to 2nd. To rev match do you push in the clutch and when the clutch is all the way down do you push down on the throttle to increase your rpm while at the same time downshifting? Cause when I did it, I guess I put to much weight on the throttle and the rpm sky rocket to like 5.5 way higher then I wanted... Am I doing it right and just need to practice, or is my understanding of the concept wrong?

Also when the clutch is all the way down and you rev the engine is it damaging the clutch at all?

Thanks.
Sep 3 2011 12:48AM
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no_steeze
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once she learns the basic concepts it really just takes a couple weeks of practice. just have her try all the time
Sep 3 2011 12:55AM
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shintastic48
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That's sort of right. Rev Matching is really difficult to get from the start because it all depends on what RPM you are shifting down from. For me, driving a race car rev matching is simply heel toeing. Which is basically only done under braking. I've never really found rev matching useful while maintaining a constant speed. With a sequential car and a clutch pedal you have to; Clutch in, push gear lever forward to downshift, rev engine at speed with clutch, clutch pedal release. But that's really only for braking. Double clutching is more of a rev matching while maintaining the same speed sort of thing. Clutch in, neutral, clutch out, little bit of throttle, clutch in, down a gear, clutch out, all with a little bit of throttle input. If you do it correctly the car won't jerk or anything. You won't even really feel the car weight transfer or anything.

From one sense it is damaging the clutch but from another it's not. If you are driving at higher revs and downshift without applying throttle that's going to basically cause the clutch to grip really hard which would hurt the friction plates. You kind of have to know a lot about cars to understand what would be better for each situation. Like it's impossible to explain.
Sep 3 2011 12:58AM
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icon1234
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Word thanks, just gonna keep on practicing I guess.
Sep 3 2011 3:42AM
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J.M
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how was that an aweful post? only time you wear the clutch is when you graze the friction plate.
Sep 3 2011 3:50AM
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shintastic48
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Correct. Because if your coasting in neutral without the clutch pedal depressed it is in neutral, and when you leave the clutch pedal depressed and are just coasting without any gas applied. you are again in neutral. The only time the clutch is being hurt is when it's engaged. clutch pedal in is disengaged without any throttle input, and clutch pedal out in neutral is also disengaged.
Sep 3 2011 4:11AM
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toominator
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This thread is full of shit and 15 year old experts. I suggest you do your own research if you want to learn about manual shifting techniques
Sep 4 2011 5:22AM
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shintastic48
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1. 18
2. I have to know about all of this stuff and have been taught by experts.
3. that is all
Sep 4 2011 5:25AM
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toominator
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My post wasn't directed at you. I'm not saying you're right or wrong, just there is a ton of misinformation in here. If anyone is actually interested in any of this they'd be better off doing their own reading. This is going to end up like a mac vs pc debate
Sep 4 2011 5:31AM
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shintastic48
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Linux ftw
Sep 4 2011 5:36AM
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tronned
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sure thing. I must not know what im talking about, considering i just rebuilt a transmission less than a month ago.
Sep 11 2011 1:21PM
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Fucktown
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Have you tried starting her out in the kitchen?
Sep 11 2011 2:02PM
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gabe.
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thats how my dad taught me and this really works well
Sep 11 2011 2:33PM
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k-rob
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just get her some paddle shifters they're easy as fuck
Sep 11 2011 3:38PM
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J.M
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i have already put in my serious advice

bring her to an arcade and get her some quarters. sit her down on one of the race car machines or nascar machines. they have the shifter there with the pedals and everything. practice.

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Sep 11 2011 3:41PM
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shintastic48
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fuckin k-rob and his fuckin flappy paddle gearbox lol
Sep 12 2011 12:43AM
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tronned
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oh and i guess the release bearing doesnt matter? Anytime the pedal is depressed, the release bearing is at work. Is that not part of the transmission? If you arent using the throttle, your foot needs to be off the clutch. Its pretty damn simple.

To all the people saying teach her to use the friction point to move around a parking lot that is going to abuse the shit out of the clutch, the most extreme wearing point of the material of a clutch is at the friction point.
Sep 12 2011 6:46PM
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tronned
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the clutch is not the only wearing component of a transmission.
Sep 12 2011 6:48PM
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tronned
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here you go ladies. Did this about 2 weeks ago i guess. Removed all shafts/diff/ and all bearings from shafts. reshimmed all shafts and diff and replaced some bearings and other junk.

bonus points to all you armchair mechanics if you can point out whats wrong with this picture, you wont be able to point out directly whats wrong, but you should see an issue with this picture if you understand a transmission as you claim.
Sep 12 2011 6:54PM
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shintastic48
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Lol, everytime you change gears or do anything really that is causing the engine to move everything is getting damaged. Not really a valid argument in my opinion.
Sep 12 2011 7:03PM
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tronned
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really? i didnt know. Thanks.


Leaving your foot depressed on the clutch wears the release bearing and clutch cylinder seals, its pretty simple to understand its additional wear than not pressurizing the system. Whats the point of doing this if its not needed? If you teach someone to drive a standard, you might aswell teach them the way that will least effect the wear of the transmission as a whole, no?
Sep 12 2011 7:07PM
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