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Rail Help!

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andrew95
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This is a follow up to a thread i made about getting some rails made for my local resort. I have came back with one company that is willing to make one for free. After asking around everyone seemed to be in favour of a nice kink (down flat down)

I am now in need of measurements and specs for this rail! So does anyone have any input on what the total length and what length each kink section should be? Also how long should the support poles (ones that go in the snow) be?

any help would be MUCH appreciated!
also k+ for help
thanks!
Apr 25 2011 6:23PM
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andrew95
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there has to be some park builders on here!
Apr 25 2011 11:36PM
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Kangbang
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Support poles should be around 4 - 5 feet. Mellow DFD's are nice. 15' down, 10' flat, 15' down.
Apr 25 2011 11:39PM
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andrew95
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okay sounds good, anyone else?
oh and your 10/10
Apr 25 2011 11:40PM
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Big_Tuna
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okay so you will probably want both the downs to be the same makes it a lot easier so i would go with like 6 feet for those and like 4 for the flat but for the support i wouldnt know sorry
Apr 25 2011 11:41PM
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Kangbang
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Short, fast DFD are terrible for tricking.
Apr 25 2011 11:43PM
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Big_Tuna
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true i guess i dont mind them though as long as you know what you want to do on them they arent bad in my opinion
Apr 25 2011 11:45PM
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DW.
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I think that six feet will seem way shorter when you're actually on it. I'd say like 12/13 - 10 - 12/13. and the supports for a rail that is going down need to be a little longer, no? So about 5-6 feet. Those are kindof up to you though, cause you need to find out how tall you want it to be.
Apr 25 2011 11:50PM
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Big_Tuna
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yeah thinking about it now it would be really short like i have an 18 foot rail in my backyard and 1/3 of that feels like nothing so my bad just ignore my post sorry.
Apr 25 2011 11:55PM
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NWPA
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I really like mellow dfd so I would say 12 ft down 15 flat 12 down and about the supports, I don't know how tall you want it to be but I would say 5 ft.
Apr 26 2011 12:20AM
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andrew95
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why do you say a longer flat area? just wondering what peoples experiences are
Apr 26 2011 10:20AM
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NWPA
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I really like being on the rail longer and that flat part slows you down a lot to make it more trickable. Just my opinion though.
Apr 26 2011 1:10PM
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andrew95
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okay thanks, sounds good
Apr 26 2011 3:55PM
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monkatizer
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i would say make the soppourt poles about 5-6 feet long like at my resort, and do a 18-12-18
Apr 26 2011 4:00PM
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andrew95
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okay sounds good but that sounds kind of long, or is it nice and trickable?
Apr 26 2011 4:07PM
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monkatizer
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thats lke the dfd they have at my mountain, its like 45 feet long and really mellow and fun and u can det some good tricks around on it

heres a vid that has the rail in it: skip to 1:30 or just watch the whole thing, its a sick edit

Apr 26 2011 4:13PM
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andrew95
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i just got some local feedback for a 12 down, 7 flat, 15 down
now, this is coming from a snowboarder, to me it would be strangely shaped and hard to hit
thoughts?
Apr 26 2011 4:13PM
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DOSE.
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i'd say 15, 10, 15. but thats just me. and 5 foot supports.
Apr 26 2011 5:41PM
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Evan.M
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5 foot legs, 15 ft down, 10 ft flat 15 ft down.
Apr 26 2011 5:52PM
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andrew95
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any other input before i finalize ?
Apr 27 2011 3:42PM
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skithesprings
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having a good deal of experience, make the rail no shorter than 30 feet, 12-8-12, 12-8-14, and 14-8-14, are all good lengths, anything longer is going to be incredibly difficult to move and work with. trust me.

the second tip i have is to make the rail decently mellow. if the kinks are too steep you need to put it in a really steep section of hill, thats also a bitch. the other thing with steep kink is that you'll miss a lot of the first down when you hop on urban. its no fun to land almost at the flat.
Apr 27 2011 4:35PM
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BIGben*
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I would go for an flat down flat so ou can spi lots out
Apr 27 2011 5:05PM
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T.L.
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15 down, 12 flat, 15 down.  15 degree kinks.  2ft. skirting will make it nut friendly. 

Apr 27 2011 5:20PM
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andrew95
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ah, thank you SO much. k+ for even including the degree
Apr 27 2011 5:23PM
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andrew95
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okay, will do like the other member said would 15 degree kinks be nice and mellow?
Apr 27 2011 5:24PM
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skithesprings
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at least 15, no more than 20 if you want to keep it mellow.

but 15 is a good starting point.
Apr 27 2011 5:55PM
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andrew95
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okay, thanks to all, if you are already not 10/10 i will k+ you
Apr 27 2011 6:03PM
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