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UncleGerry
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Okay, this is something that I have been continuously considering over the past year or so....Does anyone else think that the world is going to undergo some type of huge, catastrophic reformation sometime soon in terms of our climate? Does anyone else find it odd that we have been seeing some of the gnarliest natural disasters occur (tsunamis, floods, oil spills, unusually big and frequent earthquakes) in the past couple of years? I think that the ignorance that we placed against our earth's need for respect is goign to be our demise.

I'm not some heady hippie or whatever, I just have been thinking about what's to come in the future and what type of scale it will be on. NASA is calling for solar storms in'12 and told us to be prepared for the worst, countries can blow each other up at will, and there are definitely aliens out there keeping an eye on us. Intelligent thoughts, please. I know I sound crazy, but I'd liek to hear what everyone else has to say about it. I think something is coming sooner than later, our world is a mess!

Mar 2 2011 5:38AM
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Mike-O
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How about this: YOU have been seeing a lot of gnarly natural disasters over the past few years, because your media has decided to cover more of them. Earthquakes have not been unusually big at all, or more frequent - just reported more in your media as they've happened in areas prone to earthquakes other than those that would not make 'good news'.

Climate change is true, but man-made...no. One of the most polluted seas on earth, the Baltic Sea, which for every activist has strived for to clean before its impeccable doom due to lower and lower oxygen levels (because of chemicals etc.) has been just now reported to have had much lower levels before man even walked the Earth. What about these oil spills, hahaha, well they're man-made fuckups, hardly 'natural disasters'.

It's fluctuation of our planet, not the end of times. Although I wish there were intelligent life outside our little planet, there is no proof and I find it hard to believe that they would come here to do lightshows in the sky.

Solar storms? Yeah, the Sun gives us life and has the power to end it all as well, but it has nothing do with man.
Mar 2 2011 5:54AM
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UncleGerry
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So you don't think that we are raping our planet and that something bad is going to happen in the near future? Those solar storms alone should be something to worry about.

Mar 2 2011 6:12AM
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Mike-O
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You come off as a smart individual - comparing the overuse of natural resources and the subsequent pollution of our atmosphere "raping the planet".

I think you're trolling now, but what the hell, I've got nothing better to do at the moment.

Yes, we are overusing our limited resources and putting profit and living in the moment as top priorities. It means that, hypothetically, we will simply die out due to nothing being left for the billions of mouths to feed and hydrate. It doesn't mean that bad things happen just because we are doing this and planet is aaaaangry and in cohorts with the Sun and they're just like 'yo nukka lez fuck these bitchez up real fast like!'.

I'm an advocate for less pollution and scientific breakthroughs to override damages done and control our population and overbreeding and make our world an inhabitable place for the forthcoming generations - but it's not all in our hands. In the event of a new Ice Age, many of us would be more prepared, but still, billions would die and it would have nothing to do with Man's raping...of the planet.
Mar 2 2011 6:26AM
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bob_ham
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Hes trying to ask what you guys think about the world possibly going through a change in the future, not asking if his information. Maybe your right about him being wrong about the recent disasters but I agree with the OP, I want to hear more opinions and facts about possible endings and such.

Mar 2 2011 8:32AM
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Mike-O
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Oh.

Mar 2 2011 8:40AM
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UncleGerry
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Exactly! Thank you!
Mar 2 2011 9:05AM
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TheHamburglar
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too early to write out a large response, but yes, I am 100% positive something of this magnitude will happen during our lives, and all we can do is kick back and watch it unfold at this point. maybe not a climate change, but some sort of huge socioeconomic change or something like that
Mar 2 2011 9:29AM
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UncleGerry
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Never said anything about human extinction, bro. Just wanted to hear some opinions on what is gonna go down.
Mar 2 2011 9:29AM
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Mike-O
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So, you want intelligent discussion, then you tell us you know you sound crazy. You say that our ignorance for the planet is causing something big to happen soon, and then you keep talking about aliens and solar storms.


I don't really know what say anymore.
Mar 2 2011 9:30AM
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yuck
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how sure are you about that? maybe there would be people left, but do you think we could continue to survive on Earth?

I am no nuclear physicist (obviously) but Im pretty sure the thousands and thousands of nuclear devices stockpiled on this planet could fuck it up pretty well for a few hundred years at least. Sure , nature would make its comeback, not all life would be wiped out, but I find it hard to believe that the human race could survive that.
Mar 2 2011 9:31AM
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TheHamburglar
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+ earth's protective magnetic field is about 10% weaker than in 1845, which protects us from such things as solar flares, which would be cooking us to a crisp without our magnetic field
Mar 2 2011 9:35AM
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TechnoPotamus
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Mar 2 2011 9:39AM
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Ilovewhitestuff
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wow I actually agree with this guy for once. This.
Mar 2 2011 9:49AM
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bdonn
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This.

I am in Natural Disasters right now and were spending 7 days on 2012 and all those crazy theories that the world might end, and it is very true that all these natural disasters have not increased in frequency its just the media.

ALTHOUGH MAYBE A HUGE ALIEN SPACESHIP WILL COME AND KILL US ALL

you never know...
Mar 2 2011 10:11AM
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exile_ch
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ahahah yeaah sure.

 
Mar 2 2011 11:10AM
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Mike-O
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Implying Indonesia and the Phillippines are far off.
Mar 2 2011 11:14AM
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exile_ch
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Implying 4500km or so isn't far off.

Dude seriously, Krakatoa isn't in the same ocean as the Philippines.. It's not even in the same emisphere for god's sake. It's like saying Canada is in the Mexico region.

The guy was wrong, he should have said "Indonesia region" and not Philippines, that's it. Stop trying to defend an ignorant statement.
Mar 2 2011 11:44AM
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tommyp1ckles
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia

apophenia is basically when people find irrelevant patterns and connections in randomness, thats what this whole "increase in natural disasters must mean something" nonsense comes from; people have a hard time accepting randomness.

Theres always been natural disasters and as the number of people increases so does the impact of natural disasters and how much they are reported on, furthermore with the explosion of the internet we hear a lot more about natural disasters happening in various places.

The solar storm thing scientists have known about for quite some time; as with most things, the sun goes through natural cycles and it just so happens that the solar storm activity will be peaking around that time. Although researchers can see these storms coming which can give a few hours of notice for us to temporarily shut down electrical infrastructure and reduce the impact of these storms.

Also oil spills aren't natural disasters and i doubt any life form advanced enough for >c speed travel would give a shit about us.



Mar 2 2011 12:08PM
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FBGM
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well there is supposed to be a CME in 2012, but we've got about another 5 billion years until the world ends.
Mar 2 2011 12:13PM
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FBGM
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http://www.universetoday.com/14645/2012-no-killer-solar-flare/

read that please.

Mar 2 2011 12:20PM
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skier_boy26
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The problem is your premise for this discussion is wildly incorrect, and essentially fucking retarded.

I'll just leave this quote here. With this piece of, um, inspired shit-spewing, there isn't much need to contribute to this "discussion."

"Does anyone else find it odd that we have been seeing some of the gnarliest natural disasters occur (tsunamis, floods, oil spills, unusually big and frequent earthquakes) in the past couple of years"


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Mar 2 2011 3:31PM
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theBearJew
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Mar 2 2011 3:40PM
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sherwood4099
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End thread

Thank you for bringing intellectual hope to an NS conspiracy thread it rarely happens.

Mar 2 2011 3:41PM
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dbstar
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its all a bunch of sensationalist bullshit
Mar 2 2011 3:41PM
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._.*
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>definitely aliens keeping an eye on us
>intelligent thoughts

Mar 2 2011 3:45PM
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exile_ch
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Just the guy correcting you.
Mar 2 2011 4:11PM
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CAPITA-DEVOURS
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ahahhaha, havent seen this video in soo long.
Mar 2 2011 4:24PM
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MCIRONCOCK
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This was the first video I ever watched on the internet, and it will always hold a place near and dear to my heart.
Mar 2 2011 4:28PM
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S_Jenk
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The media has trended this way in the past decade and a half. Always looking for something to boost ratings, they will typically take something that happens at regular intervals and overblow it. If you really are wondering about the possibility of some big natural disaster(s) happening in the next few years, look at historical data and geological trends. They will give you the best answer.

Does this mean that I disagree with you, well no. That fact is that we really have no idea. Nature has always been unpredictable, along with weather and geologic forces, save for some scenarios. Major natural disasters are practically impossible to gauge. The 2004 tsunami and the Haitian earthquake are two examples, and the Katrina hurricane grew into a category 5 in the last stage before it made landfall.

Predictions are tough to believe. Data and stats? Well, while they don't lie, they can be misleading. So I look to reputable sources, facts, and history to dispel and major contradictions in me, not turn to CNN or Fox News for all that matter. The former also applies to politics and economic issues for me as well.

For all the hype out there, I might as well start believing in those 2012 predictions.

Jah.
Mar 2 2011 4:46PM
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Mr.Turtle
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>thugaim
Mar 2 2011 4:48PM
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snowbombz
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Mar 2 2011 4:51PM
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SgtSteamy
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Um..... Okay...

There is so much wrong with a lot of what you said. Yes our climate is changing, partially due to us. But whether you are ego centric enough or not to think we AREN'T causing it, we can still measure things are getting warmer.

I'm not climatologist but i was listening to a podcast by Dr Michio Kaku, physicist, and he mentioned that the additional fresh water was partially responsible for all of these crazy weather patterns.

You never bother to define "aliens." Sure, personally, I'm almost CERTAIN there is other life out there besides us. If you have ever seen flash applications or youtube videos demonstrating the size of our universe it would seem almost impossible that we're the only thing out there.

But ALIENS WATCHING US? Are you mad? Do you realize how long it would take, even at light speed, to travel to our nearest neighboors [other galaxies and star systems]? I'm guessing even if, on a slight chance, an alien race knew about us... We may not be worth their time. It just seems even more ego centric to think that they really care about us that much.

We are humans, we are designed to see patterns. But you my friend, are mixing correlation and causations. You haven't presented any evidence to even maybe persuade me to these propositions and while maybe interesting things to ponder, these ideas are merely neurotic wastes of time.
Mar 2 2011 5:35PM
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collinder
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its the end of the word as we know it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OENjixZd_Oo
Mar 2 2011 5:48PM
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TehGaim
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>more earthquakes in the news
>oil spills are natural
>countries couldn't blow each other up at will 50 years ago
>aliens traveled light years to watch humans.
>something will happen sooner or later = its gonna rain this year.
Mar 2 2011 5:58PM
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StevenR
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Inferiority complex much...Why wouldn't we be worth their time? Why wouldn't they care about us? If we discovered a planet that we were able to confirm had intelligent life (for the purposes of this post, lets just say I'm referring to a species really similar to humans), I'm pretty sure we wouldn't just go, "Eh, fuck 'em". Pretty sure we would dedicate A LOT of time and energy to the development of possible methods of contact. It would be literally the most significant discovery in the history of the human race. Not really ego centric to think/hope that an extra terrestrial civilization would be interested in us when we would be equally interested in them.
Mar 2 2011 6:04PM
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adamlukowski
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hahaha they would be deformed to shit from radiation, but they still count as people!

Mar 2 2011 6:04PM
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TehGaim
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You don't know much about nuclear weapons do you?
Mar 2 2011 6:11PM
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Ski_Alot
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SKIING IS FOR FAGS
Mar 2 2011 6:17PM
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shocker611
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Richard Lindzen I attended one of his lectures and he is a genius. If you want read through his article http://http://www.cato.org/pubs/regulation/regv15n2/reg15n2g.html and if you really want to learn about the true history and actual "facts" of global warming I would encourage you to search his full paper on global warming.. hes an MIT meteorologist who had every reason to support the theory of global warming and instead realized that much of the facts were just hype and had no real backing
Mar 2 2011 6:20PM
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marsh.
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if we have weapons that can destroy everything within 150 miles how do you think that people would survive all of our weapons plus other countries. it is impossible. we ended the cold war because we knew that if the USSR and us would fire our weapons both countries would be destroyed
Mar 2 2011 6:24PM
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theabortionator
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We're all gonna die /thread
Mar 2 2011 6:26PM
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YoungJah
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Aliens dont exist. The world won't end? All this shit about the world ending, is because the mayan people couldn't count past 2012. Now people are freaking out about nothing.
Mar 2 2011 7:19PM
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1337
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inb4 pages 2-5
Mar 2 2011 7:21PM
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WillStart
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bahahaha
Mar 2 2011 7:24PM
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Obi-Wan-Jenobi
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in history there has been thousands of huge earthquakes. but only recently have we had cnn/bbc/cbc/everyothermajornewscompanyinthewholewideworld to report them:)
Mar 2 2011 7:31PM
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erikK
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2012
Mar 2 2011 7:34PM
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Funkadelic
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I'm pretty sure the aliens created us and it's up to them to decide when/how the earth is destroyed and we all die. Don't quote me on that though... I'm only like 90% sure.
Mar 2 2011 9:19PM
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