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No more blue steeles!

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nskerb
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so i was skiing at meadows a couple weeks ago and i saw my coach on on3ps with all the workers except scott... rowen the co owner or sumthin was on these skis for 2012 called the filthy rich. these skis are pretty cool they got these super stealth tips but rocker to clear stuff they are pretty sick but not as cool as the BS, he told me thatt the blue steele was being discontinoud for these i was pretty bummed

Mar 1 2011 9:40PM
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Dustin.
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Old news brah
Mar 1 2011 9:41PM
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nskerb
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oh sorry i guess i just never got the news, thanks for not hating tho
Mar 1 2011 9:42PM
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dstriebs
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some of this is new to me actually so thanks. sounds pretty interesting. you wouldnt happen to know what sizes they will be coming in would you?
Mar 2 2011 4:31PM
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Crispy.
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By not as cool do you mean graphics/topsheet or like the actual preformance of the ski?
Mar 2 2011 4:37PM
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pigglywiggly
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yeah curious abut this as well. ill need a new park ski to replace my blue steeles from this year and thinking these, gbutters, or moment vices. just need some more info on these though first
Mar 2 2011 5:07PM
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noparking
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there is a video that was posted by the on3p guys that had the topsheets in it. i had the chance to ski these skis a little over a month ago and they were very fun.
Mar 2 2011 5:20PM
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Aaaron.
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didn't you just get the blue steeles this season?
Mar 2 2011 5:31PM
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Juice.Doctor
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agree more info needed
Mar 2 2011 5:31PM
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pigglywiggly
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yeah, edge is pulling out from the top. im making a summer set up and will be skiing it a lot over the summer so i figure ill bash the hell out of them anyways. i have money but nothing to spend it on, so thats also how i justify buying new skis haha
Mar 2 2011 6:28PM
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BenWhit
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i've always wanted a pair of these.
Mar 2 2011 6:40PM
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RudyGarmisch
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More gradual elliptical rocker on the replacement ski, longer rocker, different sidecut profile that works with the rocker to allow you to carve sharper turns the more you heel it over, way better for carving off jumps than the Blue Steele. Its been designed from the start with rocker in mind, allowed us to try out some ideas and we're happy with the way it works.

Sizes and specs will be released in May, cant say much yet because we're still getting feedback from our riders and playing around with stuff.
Mar 2 2011 9:50PM
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hippystinx
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make long skis 190 something maybe
Mar 2 2011 10:19PM
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steezeeepolizeee
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Yea i want a park ski at around 186-188
Mar 2 2011 10:21PM
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A-Style**
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Mar 2 2011 10:57PM
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T.O.
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Anything in 160 size range
Mar 2 2011 11:20PM
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pigglywiggly
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That sounds sooo sick. Im glad the rocker is goig to be more gradual and long rather than short and abrupt on my blue steeles. If its a 87-92 waist, symmetrical and medium flex I will be beyond stoked
Mar 2 2011 11:23PM
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Crispy.
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You guys should make like a 176cm. How will the price compare to BS?
Mar 3 2011 7:43AM
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Juice.Doctor
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you just described my dream ski.
Mar 3 2011 8:42AM
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SkiTheYeast
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Mar 3 2011 9:38AM
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Billups
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Little richard is getting a pro model, how nice.
Mar 3 2011 10:37AM
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DUKES
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a 185-187cm, 92 mm underfoot, symmetrical, with rocker. would be the ultimate park ski for us giants
Mar 3 2011 10:54AM
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BASEDRILEY
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sizes should be 166/ 176/ 186

Mar 3 2011 4:46PM
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belden...
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no there should be a 191
Mar 3 2011 4:54PM
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BASEDRILEY
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i really dont care what the sizes are aslong as theres a 164-168 size
Mar 3 2011 4:59PM
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DUKES
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well then you care about the sizes
Mar 3 2011 5:22PM
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ndye
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probably wouldnt sell to a large enough group to be very successful. And park skis get noodly really easily if they get too long.
Mar 3 2011 5:24PM
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Matty_K
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so if I'm 5'11 I should get the 181?
Mar 3 2011 6:31PM
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Matty_K
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I mean 186*

sorry for dub post.
Mar 3 2011 6:31PM
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dstriebs
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they havent even released the sizes yet. but I agree with the people saying there should be a 176.
Mar 4 2011 12:21AM
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Balto
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man up, they are rockered so they ski shorter, unless you're 5'7", 181 will be fine
Mar 4 2011 12:28AM
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BASEDRILEY
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tell that to issac he skis 173's and is 5 11
Mar 4 2011 12:35AM
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dstriebs
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im 5' 9" 148 lbs and ride 181 j mos and they are perfect for all mountain but I would like something a little shorter and easier to throw around for my park skis. man up? haha im sick of everybody thinking they are "real men" because they ride skis half a foot over their head.
Mar 4 2011 12:41AM
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Mr_pretzel
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That does make you a real man.
Mar 4 2011 2:26AM
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Session
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191 or GTFO
Mar 4 2011 2:39AM
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special_k10101
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they sound like sick skis but OP, that is one epic run-on sentence.
Mar 4 2011 5:06AM
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ndye
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No, it makes you extremely trendy. Sure if your going stupid big you need the larger skis, but most of us on here are just hitting 25-40 foot jumps and sliding some rails. If we are doing pipe we are going below 8 feet out max. It doesn't make you a man to constantly ride the longest ski they make regardless of your height.
Mar 4 2011 6:36AM
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SkiTheYeast
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I am 5'7 so 176cm
Mar 4 2011 7:56AM
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pigglywiggly
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this right here
Mar 4 2011 8:43AM
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nskerb
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the ski, the way they made the rocker on  this ski fucks it for anything but park i think
Mar 4 2011 10:04AM
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Mr_pretzel
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Then get the jmo.

I want a ski that slays park super hard. Its a park ski its supposed to ski park not all mtn.

Also lower rocker is better than abrupt rocker for skiing pow.
Mar 4 2011 10:44AM
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Balto
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its a dedicated park ski, its not designed to be skied out of the park, thats what jmos are for.
Mar 4 2011 2:10PM
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omIV
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Owner of OG Blue Steeles, right hurr. Pre-rocker shit. Lovin it.
Mar 4 2011 2:16PM
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A-Style**
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Same here, fucking awesome skis. Too bad I can't ski them anymore
Mar 4 2011 2:28PM
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RudyGarmisch
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Elliptical rocker is going on the Cease and Desist, Billy Goat, Pillowfight... everything we've tried it on so far we like more than the old rocker. Its different and skis need to be designed a little around it, but its sooooo good in variable snow its redic, you just feel so stable on edge, you dont get that hookey feel that some rockered skis give you.
Mar 4 2011 3:45PM
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iggyskier
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Not really sure who you talked to about the skis but the filthy rich skis WAY better outside the park than the blue steele. Not even a contest between the two.

Inside the park, it is a bit less playful but way way more stable and solid. It carves off jumps way better and is significantly more solid on landing and take off of big hits.
Mar 4 2011 4:16PM
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Mr_pretzel
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Can you explain elliptical rocker too me?
Mar 4 2011 4:44PM
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pigglywiggly
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im going to guess its going to be something like the shape of the 2012's. just my guess when i think long gradual rocker
Mar 4 2011 4:49PM
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RudyGarmisch
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Sure! Its easiest to think of this as an equation actually. Put the ski on a graph so that the origin is where the rocker starts in the side profile.

Classical rocker, at least for us, had the rocker emerge from the ski at an angle (say, like the equation y=x/4 or something), and then after a distance you would have a set tip curve.

Elliptical is just that, its an ellipse. It gradually turns sharper and sharper. If we're talking tip shape, its like the lower right quadrant of the ellipse in this picture.

Click for larger image

So the theres no real point where the rocker stops and the tip shape starts, they just slow into each other, and the rocker starts very gradually, so theres no hard point on the ski, making it way more stable since everything just transitions into the shape, instead of abruptly.

Theres way more behind this, but I dont want to give too much away.
Mar 4 2011 5:33PM
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Mr_pretzel
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Thanks!

It actually makes alot of sense to put that on a ski.

Cant wait to pick up a pair of Filthy riches.
Mar 5 2011 2:58AM
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Canuker
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i cant wait to see a pair!
Mar 5 2011 11:51AM
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