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For those who've actually seen Fahrenheit 9/11

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Jibtech
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Welp, its in theaters, I went and saw it... Wether you think its a load of horse shit, you think micheal moore is god, or you sit somewhere inbetween, I'd recomend seeing it.

I'd be interested to see what people think that have ACTUALLY SEEN IT as well.








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Jun 25 2004 11:37PM
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ski8990
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^ I agree that the ones still alive and intact will be better off



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PowderPrincess
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i thought the movie was good. not as great of a job as moore did on bowling for columbine however, but definetly worth my $9 for a movie. I think moore's aspect on a lot of bush's ideas and motives was more well documented through video, and i found the part about the pipe line through afghanistan very interesting as i had no prior knowledge to this, along with the video of him on the morning of sept. 11, 2001. i do however reccommend this movie to others, but i did not walk away from this film thinking that moore shoved his opinion down my throat, it just made me think.. which is what movies should be about.
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Jul 6 2004 4:46PM
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pag
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I just saw the movie few minutes ago
I tought it was pretty good even if you can see that he his way too much for the democrats
i mean if you take the facts and analyse them...
it shows how the people are getting fucked by the rich and powefull people and it's like this everywhere... another thing I dislike is that it show how saudi people control US but it didn't showed how jews(I have nothing agaisnt jews I'm not a nazi or anything) control the US politicaly and economicaly and the reason why the states backup Israel and have this policies too in middle east... anyway really good movie a must see even if you are republican
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Jul 13 2004 10:58PM
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Vtsnowski
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i didnt like the movie at all



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Jul 13 2004 11:00PM
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NoTeefa
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loved it


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Jul 13 2004 11:06PM
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Astomp
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You guys know the oregon state trooper part? well i just read in my town paper that the oregon state police are suing micheal moore because in the interview they had with him they talked about Gov Kitzhaber(sp). he is the reason they are lacking so much funding. not bush. that part didnt have anything to do with the movie i thought. and you could tell kinda they werent really bashing bush.


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Jul 13 2004 11:10PM
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Vtsnowski
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^ his bends the facts. and people take it all in cause it is moore he never lies, he hates bush blah blah



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Jul 13 2004 11:12PM
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J.D.
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Well, Astomp, let me know when they get laughed out of court, because that suit won't go anywhere. I wonder what would make them go through with it knowing that thye're going to lose?

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Jul 13 2004 11:21PM
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Itsbackfliptime
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the part where the kids from flint said there were places in flint worse than iraq was hilarious. It's totally true too.

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Jul 13 2004 11:26PM
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Astomp
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i didnt feel bad for the lady who lost her son in the war. she sent him. and then was balling about losing him and not knowing why. i think watching that iraqi lady scream about getting her house blown up really got to me.


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Jul 13 2004 11:31PM
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J.D.
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There were other clips he didn't include, I guess because he was trying to lower the rating and make it so 13 yr olds could see it. One of the most affecting was an iraqi man stumbling around after having his house bombed, asking cameramen to help him find his arms. Things like that hit hard.

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Jul 13 2004 11:40PM
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NoTeefa
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i think in the nine or so times ive driven down to hood, ive only seen one state trooper in oregon, kinda sad


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Jul 13 2004 11:43PM
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NoTeefa
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yea that lady was fucking stupid


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Jul 13 2004 11:49PM
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SmoKinSkier
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I dont think the point is that they are goin to win the suit it is the fact that Moore just bends the truth, only shows one side, and even blatantly makes stuff up to get a point acroos. If you thought that movie did democrats good in any way you are sadly mistakem.

I have respect for ppl who bash bush construtively but not in moores style. He is a stereotypical LEFT WING cooke who just blindly manipulates ignorant ppl!




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Jul 13 2004 11:55PM
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passion4this
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loved this movie... garenteed to make you mad at someone... if you're a republican it will make you mad at Moore, if you're a democrat it will make you mad at Bush... some great quotes on that movie tho...





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Jul 14 2004 1:11AM
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Astomp
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im not republican or democrat or anything.it made me mad. i walked out of that movie just mad.


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Jul 14 2004 1:38AM
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alev
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i really liked it, and i think that he put it out at the right time. however, as big of an independant as i am, i felt that he may have stretched soem of the evidence against bush, and even though i dont really like bush, it almost doesnt seem real. if it was all real and without any exageration, we are in serious trouble with mr bush as our president. i would not recomend this for any republican, or else u will have everlasting PMS for a few days

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Jul 14 2004 8:55AM
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ScratchCobra66
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THIS IS FOR THOSE OF YOU SAYING MMICHEAL MOORE IS NOT A LEFT WINGED DEMOCRATE....HE HAS SAID IT HIM SELF THAT HE IS EXTREAMLY LEFT WINGED HIMSELF, HE SAID HE DIDINT LIKE THE DEMOCRATIC WAY OF GOVERMENT.






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Jul 14 2004 8:58AM
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Astomp
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now you guys remember when it said that bushed had taken over 42% vacation while compared to the days hes work in office was that when 9-11 happened or when was that?


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Jul 14 2004 9:30AM
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Nickskier
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i wish people would stop saying 'moore is stupid he makes shit up and manipulates you' - yeah, maybe people will listen to you if you actually cite things from the movie, if not nobody really cares.
Jul 14 2004 9:48AM
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bigJ
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^^that was before 9-11 not during or after


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Jul 14 2004 9:52AM
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Astomp
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thast what i thought. but still thats a lot of vacation. i bet he had to be getting some work done.


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Jul 14 2004 2:46PM
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bigJ
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The number includes weekends in the total percentage. If one was to count weekends for a whole year it would be 28%, and I am not on vactaion for that long every year. Also, the number includes transit times in Air Force One which is like the White House in the air so those days can not be counted as vacation. So it was really wasn't that much. If you don't believe me look here.


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Jul 14 2004 3:03PM
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Simon_Dumont
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too bad michael moore, falsely quoted somebody (cant think of the name right now) and is now being sued because of it, the fatty deserves it.



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Jul 14 2004 3:36PM
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^you're smart

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Jul 14 2004 3:41PM
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lineskier10
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yeah anti war people make points on such individual cases like michael moore does, and its obvious that some people suffer in war, if we were in a war that everyone supported things like innocent peoples houses being blown up would still occur, and soldiers mothers would be sad, so this happening shouldnt effect our view of the war, just because individuals are effected negatively, it doesnt mean that this war isnt accomplishing something good, so michael moore is trying to put things in his movies that people will see and become saddened or angry about, but these things happen in every war, so unless he is against war alltogether he shouldnt really include these things
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Jul 14 2004 3:47PM
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Astomp
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im still not sure if i liked the movie.


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Jul 15 2004 3:29PM
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the movie just dragged on way too long
it got to the point where i felt like random facts were being thrown at me and i was told that they were all interconnected in some inexplicable way

i went in moderate, came out moderate, and everybody else ive talked to said the same, that they went in and came out unaffected
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Itsbackfliptime
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the article bigJ posted is awesome. The whole movie seemed taken out of context. At least to me.

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Jul 15 2004 8:21PM
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LittleDevil720
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Micheal moore is a complete complete cock sucking deusche bag. i just saw the movie about 20 mins ago and thought it was horrible, it made me mad.. Bush is a deusche himself, but everyone thinks that kerry or the guy down the road running for president can be the best..everyone fucks up...Kerry and Bush will say whatever the public wants to hear....In Moores movie, he only showed a few things bush did wrong...could bush possibly have done good things? yes....... its awful about our soldiers out there, but fuck support them, and Moore exagerated everything so much.............and businesses, is that all we americans think about? fuck our lifes lets make money, is basically what one big shot said..its not him whos gonna die, so why should he care right?


Jul 15 2004 8:27PM
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I thought it was great. the first part didnt seem to have much relivency though. I doubt that those saudies keep in touch with their relitive bin ladin. although it was really shitty that they flew them out of the country becuase they would probably have some usefull information. also it was really shitty how bush just sat there in that classroom when he was informed that the country was under attack. i mean i get that he was upset but a president needs to be fast to act.
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Jul 15 2004 8:34PM
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LittleDevil720
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i wonder what other presidents would have done if they were in that positoin?
Jul 15 2004 8:41PM
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America is fucked

i dont feel i have to state why i believe this

its my opinion and is not solely based on this movie

but America is fucked


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Jul 15 2004 10:12PM
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jarossamdb7
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humm, i wounder that too. well there really is no way to know now but i can tell you what i would expect them to do: BE A FUCKING LEADER! (Bush was not acting as one so good at that point in time!)
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Jul 15 2004 11:41PM
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Astomp
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i thought it was a good idea for bush to make the move but i think hes messed up now.


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Jul 18 2004 10:26AM
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everyone was clapping after the movie at the theater i saw it in, i wasnt totally impressed i thought it laid out many interesting facts but didnt say anything that was really important and relevant for the coming election. If your a swing voter list to Howard Stern for a lil bit each morning.





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Jul 18 2004 2:08PM
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he said he liked looking at fucking bugs he is a fucking idiot i hope he trips on his shoelaces and dies







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Jul 18 2004 3:17PM
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J.D.
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^Yeah, along with all those entomologist fuckers.

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Jul 18 2004 3:19PM
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EastcoastAR5
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hes quite on point with many views but in my opinion he just skimmed the surface
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Jan 6 2005 7:57PM
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moore doesnt use any false facts he just uses misconceptions.
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OpIvy
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There are many false facts that moore uses. One glaring one is the 'fact' that the saudi's have $860 billion invested in the US and that investment makes up 8% of the US. This is flat out wrong. That $860 billion doesn't even make up 8% of total FOREIGN investment in the US. Such glaring false facts make it hard to believe a word moore says.
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