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WOMEN Slopestyle has ZERO chance to make it into the Olympics

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iSki13
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The fact is these women are not Olympic grade athletes and are not showing Olympic grade talent in the slope style.

I was going to drop this rant but then these women showed up on my TV at 12midnight as I was scanning the channels, and what do I see 360's and garbage 540's.

There are female aerialists that can do triples. They work out in the off season and water ramp. Clearly these athletes do not, and if they do, its half ass or not hard enough or else they  would be bringing more to the table and wouldn't be a decade behind the men.

What have these competitors been doing all summer. Clearly they have been on the beach and not training like FIS or Olympic athletes do.

Because if you were training you'd at least bring rodeos, corks and some other gear to the table off 2 or 3 hits, not to mention you would be able to do switch corks or switch inverts. Dont even mention doubles.

There is zero possibility they will let the women slope style into the Olympics, ABSOLUTELY ZERO

I just saw a bunch of 360's and 180's in these girls nationally televised broadcast runs on VS tv.  That is unacceptable for national exposure.

 Its like putting a highschool junior varsity basketball game on ESPN in the middle of a CELTICS game.

I see adolescent immature young women singing crack hip hop garbage to the camera when they finish their run, not stone faced, focused international competitors competing for the pride of their country.

Olympic competitors are athletic machines not some G swagger ass immature girls. USA better be breeding some sleeper competitors and keeping it low, because this is not going to cut it.


Feb 4 2011 12:46AM
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iSki13
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Goodlife, the fact of the matter is tee-ball has no place in the MLB.

SOME OF YOU PEOPLE ARE ENABLERS of the continuation of poor performance with your non or SOFT judgement.

If the women did not get into the olympics it would be justice.

IF THEY DID IT WOULD BE LIBERAL AFFIRMITIVE ACTION HORSE SHIT BECAUSE THE MEN ARE CLEARLY EXHIBITING OLYMPIC ATHLETICISM

SO IN EFFECT THESE WOMEN ARE PIGGY-BACKING THE DESERVING MEN WHO MEET THE STANDARD AND SKILL SET OF A PRIZED NEW OLYMPIC EVENT

TO SNEAK THERE WAY INTO A LEVEL OF COMPETITION THEY HAVE NO EARNING TO BELONG TO.

THIS IS LIKE LETTING ROGER CLEMENS SHITTY CRIPPLED BROTHER ONTO THE YANKEES BECAUSE HES FROM THE SAME FAMILY AND THEY BOTH PLAY BASEBALL.

THESE WOMENS RUNS ARE A DECADE OLD. A DECADE OLD. THAT HAS NO PLACE IN THE OLYMPICS, BUT SOCIETY AND WEAK PEOPLE ARE RULED BY EMPATHY AND APPEAZMENT

THIS IS A POST DEDICATED TO REALITY, REALITY IS THEY ARE A DECADE BEHIND, REALITY IS THEIR RUNS SHOW ZERO URGENCY TO WIDEN A PROGRESSION GAP AGAINST COMPETITORS,

THERE ARE NO CRASH AND BURN RUNS WHERE A WOMEN IS GOING OUT AND CLEARLY TRYING TO PUSH IT, ITS INCHING ALONG

THE SPORT INCHES ALONG

Feb 6 2011 3:35PM
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Download-My-Apps
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I do have some idea of what I'm talking about actually... I know that in central Europe ski jumping is quite popular and at one point it was very popular in the rest of the world. But other than central Europe the sport is dead. In Canada at one point almost every hill had a jump, now there are maybe 2 clubs in the entire country. Follow the time line of the sport, its peaked in terms of global popularity. And if you  compare it to other sports that have been popular and declined its following a similar pattern. Just curious how many youths ski jump? What ages watch it in Central Europe? I'm willing to bet that the youth has little interest in it. There is a reason why the IOC included womens ski cross and not womens ski jumping (which they shouldn't have) and that because they could draw far more attention from ski cross, if ski jumping was growing they would have done the same.

I'm not bashing ski jumping, I respect the sport, shits crazy. But it in terms of global popularity it is declining.
Feb 6 2011 3:39PM
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KravtZ
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womens sports in general will never be as good as men...but there is a point such as in tennis the women are actually pretty fun to watch and are real good athletes. Women freestyle skiers are an absolutle joke. They throw the shittiest tricks that a dude would have 0 chance of being sponsored if they threw those down. Its pretty sad that its acceptable that these athletes are competing at such a low leve.
Feb 6 2011 3:56PM
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I_liketobutter
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Even if they are in the gym everyday and "training", I still find their commitment to pushing the sport and themselves weak, by looking at other female skiing events.

Look at women's FIS skiing, like DH and slalom. Those women are fucking ripped and are better skiers than any guy in FIS that isn't in the top 100. Its a fucking joke when you look at other womens sports in the olympics compared to the men. They really aren't that far behind. I don't care how hard they claim to be working, it doesn't show.

There are 2 or 3 women out there that seem to be pushing pretty hard, but the rest seem to be out there on mom and dads penny "having a good time".

Look at women big mtn skiers. They seem to have 20x the power and control over themselves on skis compared to most the park girls. I know women are at a disadvantage with the way their bodies are made and developed. But the level of skiing in other women's sports really doesn't make that much of a factor.

If you want to be treated the same in terms of rewards as the men, then step it up and treat it like the men do.
Feb 6 2011 4:04PM
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Rachy
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW_9cIDuJzo

Not able to embed at the moment.... but it's coming.

I think a large part of it is that so many of the top women's freeskiers right now didn't get into until so late in the game. Kaya was a pro roller blader first. Maude got into it something like 4 years ago and just went to her first x games. Most of these women were racers, mogul skiers, that sort of thing first. So they are amazing skiers, freestyle in most cases is new to women. When you do have women that have been doing it for some time, the other women they are surrounded by are still relatively new.

Then you see 9 year olds like that girl that are 9.. and killing it.

To further my point. Here is a 7 year old girl skateboarder. Note the bunny ears.

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1793123550479
Feb 6 2011 4:10PM
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Sophia_Schwartz
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hahaha.

The current winning run at FIS WC was a switch 540, 720, flats 3. Women's skiing is going to take some time to progress.

Imagine a girl has a solid Rodeo 5, to switch right side or left side 9, to cork 9, with legit grabs. That run would have owned. It is some real progression.

As you so wonderfully point out it wouldn't outshine any AM Guy. So a series of progressive competition for women would help her get recognized and start to move the sport forward.
Feb 6 2011 4:14PM
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TWoods
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My point exactly was that if any girl could even MATCH a typical AM dude on a flow sponsorship, she would be the #1 girl skier. Completely on top. The run you described is still mediocre for a slope comp, I can name ten guys off the top of my head that can throw a run like that who have NO aspirations of being any sort of a pro or even competitive athlete.

The fact that no girl is even close to being there is unfortunate, seeing as though (as pointed out before) in many other sports, there is not even close to as much as a disparity. Women aerialists throw triples.

So, I completely disagree with you. I don't think that any more resources need to be wasted on competitions for women when women aren't willing to step their skiing up to a competitive level.
I'm thinking more like one competition a year, just for women, and once the competitors there reach a level of skiing that is worthy of xgames/dew tour/etc. is when a "series of progressive competitions for women" are worth the time it takes to run them.
Feb 6 2011 4:29PM
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Download-My-Apps
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Well there is the biological factors, males do produce more VO2MAX, testosterone and are naturally more muscular than females. But you also have to consider that female are not quite that the performance level of men because they simply weren't allowed for years. The ancient Olympics women were killed if they even entered the venue. Women were not allowed in the first few modern Olympics, womens were supposed to be simply spectators and applaud for the the male athletes (note that the Olympics were closed to working class, professional athletes). Later women were solely allowed to compete in golf, tennis and croquet, as they were deemed female sports. So that might be one of the reasons why womens tennis has a fairly high level of competition for female. Gradually women have slowly gained more sports in the Olympics, 1984 was the first marathon I think, and 2002 brought the bobsleigh. Both sports people thought women could not have a highlevel of competition. And note the bridge between male and female performance closes with each olympics.

My point it is, with such exclusion how could females at this point have a near equal performance to makes. Society until recently has not allowed them to participate. And when they do they are constantly made fun of by males, Newschoolers is a perfect example of this, every time a girl puts up an edit, six kids say "how'd you get the computer in the kitchen." In order for a equal performance to be achieved there has to be equal opportunity to participate. There are plenty of low level male participants in the Olympics from developing countries, people have no problem with them participating because, they need the experience in the Olympics to develop sports in their nation, the same can said about womens slopestyle.

Is this anymore deserving than any of the slopestyle females?


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zjCc_VyxM4

Feb 6 2011 4:49PM
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icon1234
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You guys realize that womens sports in general fucking blow right? Like besides tennis, soccer, and volleyball, the rest of the sports are a joke. I really can't believe you guys are surprised that womens skiing sucks as well...
Feb 6 2011 5:26PM
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californiagrown
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according to aligee,the amount of good sponsorships for girls, outnumbers the amount of good girls. therefore they are content to stay safe, and stay at the same level because no one is out there trying to take away their sponsorship.

two options:

1) take away some sponsorships and have the girls actually start competing against each other again

2) keep waiting until the crop of young guns steps up and starts competing for the pros sponsorships.
Feb 6 2011 5:55PM
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FreeBallin
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i cant believe this...as I stated earlier, KL could RODEO 7 back in like the early 2000's?

Its like womens freestyle hit a huge fucking brick wall until this year, and now(amazingly) we see younger women(coming from a completely different sport nonetheless, Kaya) making our former girls skiers, look like a joke.

They road the coat tails of our sport(some still do) simply because they were "one of the few females doing it" back in the early 2000's.

The new names in female skiing excited me as I believe they WONT let us down with progression(just look at the edits). They give me hope in a few years, female skiing will be up to par.

But the first wave of females, completely milked the out of being a "pro freestyle skier".





Feb 6 2011 7:07PM
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Steakhead
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This...

Also I love how this whole thread started over watching the FIS World Champs on VS. You cant start to argue anything relaying to that comp with regards to TV. The Slope course was horrible, Gatorade Free Flow stops had bigger tables, and as you could see in the pipe competition the superpipe was not so super. Its amazing that guys were even able to throw dubs while being about 8 feet off the table at the highest point.

Congrats to all athletes male and female though who went out there and got it done for their countries and made a big push for SOCHI 2014.
Feb 6 2011 7:18PM
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FreeBallin
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Other then Ros, was there a SINGLE invert done on the podium?

Honest question, didnt see the whole tv airing.
Feb 6 2011 7:23PM
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Steakhead
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Ros? Roz did not go inverted in the pipe. not sure what your getting at. Both Venues were very sub par for a WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP
Feb 6 2011 7:41PM
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FreeBallin
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I saw numerous straight airs, 180s in between a few decent spins(on podium). Was hoping I was wrong, and some inverts were thrown that I didnt see. Not even like a flair or whatever you want to call it?

But then the men came out..and throwing doubles all day.

Sorry for asking? Didnt see the whole airing...

Feb 6 2011 8:05PM
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AWALLRUS.
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IM GONNA GET A SEX CHANGE AND PROVE YOU WRONG, FUCKER
Feb 6 2011 8:32PM
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S.C
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just comparing the womens xgames slopestyle to mens is sad
Feb 6 2011 8:43PM
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Steakhead
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Its all good, Sarah went inverted a couple times, as did Devin, Roz skied smooth, but everyone, Guys/Girls/Dogs/Cats went about half as big on every hit as they could in a normal 22 foot pipe. Rolland pulled maybe the smallest dub cork 12 in the history of mankind, maybe 6 feet out but stomped it so props to him. Pipe was not in good shape


Feb 6 2011 9:01PM
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McLeod
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hey retard, the pipe at Park City is 22 feet
Feb 6 2011 10:15PM
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binturong-qwerty
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check out jackie kling
she has stomped dub fronts
something that a lot of NS can't do

Feb 6 2011 11:07PM
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freestyler540
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good point, you are absolutely right! Also, it will never pass because of the numbers of inscriptions in women ski jumping. They are still not recognized by the OIC
Feb 6 2011 11:33PM
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the.cheat
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speaking of free flow tour, i saw the girls snowboarding, there was an urban down at the top with a nike down rail, then the gatorade rail and a up box, then two jumps. everything was hittable, didnt see a single spin. every girl skipped both top rails, most 50-50d a box, half skipped both jumps, and the other half did methods and landed on the flat. so basically, out of 4 rails and 2 jumps, they hit between 1-3 of the features, and did the most basic possible things off of them. i even saw one who skipped every single feature, she obv. just wanted a bib
Feb 7 2011 12:06AM
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TMiller
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This is true hahahaha
Feb 7 2011 12:12AM
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funkmaster
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this girl is better than 90% of the pro circut.

womens skiing is a joke. whenever i watch x games i just sit there and think... i could do that. the only girl i like to watch is kaya.
Feb 7 2011 9:53AM
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tucker386
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thank you so much for posting this thread. i was thinking the exact same thing as I watched the X games.
Feb 7 2011 10:04AM
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Armanzoid
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She's from Estonia eh? I banged an Estonian girl one time. They are like some weird mix between Scandinavian and Russian.

And it is sad that an 8 year old girl can stomp what is considered a medeled run at the x-games for girls.
Feb 7 2011 10:09AM
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niSE7EN
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shut the fuck up buddy, are you trying to discourage females? im sure all these pro females are wayyyy better than you are.
Feb 7 2011 10:20AM
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jibnut
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AMERICA.
Feb 7 2011 10:23AM
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Steakhead
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Put your reading glasses on idiot.. I said Normal 22 foot pipe..PC had a 22 foot pipe with a hagard undervert left wall
Feb 7 2011 10:34AM
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eheath
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Pretty sure PC was one of the firsts to have a true 22ft pipe, you should know that, right?
Feb 7 2011 11:01AM
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inthewoods
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hahahah

Feb 7 2011 11:15AM
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Steakhead
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Thanks for the history lesson... They were one of the first, i was just referring to how it was not in the great shape it usually is in. You would think they would have it in tip top shape for the world championships right?
Feb 7 2011 12:18PM
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eheath
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Sorry, i don't have much pipe experience. Everyone else seemed to do just fine....
Feb 7 2011 12:24PM
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Steakhead
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everyone's amplitude was about 6 - 10 feet lower than they went at X Games, I wouldn't call that doing fine..
Feb 7 2011 1:02PM
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eheath
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So you're saying no one went higher than 8 ft out?
Feb 7 2011 1:06PM
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jksl
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it was also some of the shittiest weather i've ever seen a pipe comp go down in, so damn windy. i thought they were going to postpone it for sure..


.....but you're totally right. it was probably the pipe.
Feb 7 2011 1:16PM
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blindside
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calling kids on the internet idiots, professional.
Feb 7 2011 1:42PM
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iSki13
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SOME OF YOU PEOPLE ARE ENABLERS of the continuation of poor performance with your non or SOFT judgement.

If the women did not get into the olympics it would be justice.

IF THEY DID IT WOULD BE LIBERAL AFFIRMITIVE ACTION HORSE SHIT BECAUSE THE MEN ARE CLEARLY EXHIBITING OLYMPIC ATHLETICISM

SO IN EFFECT THESE WOMEN ARE PIGGY-BACKING THE DESERVING MEN WHO MEET THE STANDARD AND SKILL SET OF A PRIZED NEW OLYMPIC EVENT

TO SNEAK THERE WAY INTO A LEVEL OF COMPETITION THEY HAVE NO EARNING TO BELONG TO.

THIS IS LIKE LETTING ROGER CLEMENS SHITTY CRIPPLED BROTHER ONTO THE YANKEES BECAUSE HES FROM THE SAME FAMILY AND THEY BOTH PLAY BASEBALL.

Feb 7 2011 1:42PM
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Download-My-Apps
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Now that you've big words and all caps it makes total sense!!!!!!!!
Feb 7 2011 1:54PM
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Alex_G
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posting on newschoolers in general is not professional.
Feb 7 2011 2:14PM
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chickenwang
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7 switch 5 and both 3's with some legit grabs, she slays rails too. damn how does this make yall women feel? step your shit up and get with the times. no 8 year old should be doing tricks that could win thousands of dollars in comps today.
Feb 7 2011 3:24PM
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iSki13
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I AM REALLY HOPING SOME OF THE FEMALE ATHLETES WILL READ THESE POSTS AND GET FIRED UP.

THIS IS THE DEFINITION OF TOUGH LOVE

iF YOU ARE GETTING D'S AND F'S ON YOUR REPORT CARDS AND YOUR PARENTS KISS YOUR ASS, REWARD YOU AND YOU HAVE THE ILLUSION IN YOUR HEAD THAT YOU ARE GOOD. THEY ARE DOING YOU HARM.

IF THEY TELL YOU ITS HORSE SHIT HOW YOUR PERFORMING, HOW ITS EMBARRASSING TO THE FAMILY AND SCHOOL...  YOU ARE  MORE LIKELY TO GO OUT AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT

TOUGH LOVE

Feb 7 2011 3:33PM
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Steakhead
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Sorry if i hurt your feelings for calling someone idiot after I was called retarded...Seriously I am sorry..

I will try to be more PROOOO
Feb 7 2011 3:43PM
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Steakhead
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Nope not saying that..Just saying the pipe was not in near of good of shape as it usually is and the athletes were not able to perform to the level that they could have.

This is mostly based on practice days and qualifiers, obviously mother nature stepped in with plans of her own on finals day.
Feb 7 2011 3:48PM
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FreeBallin
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Anyone else notice throughout this whole thread, its the "industry names" and people who know them personally, who cant seem to remove their own personal emotions from the big picture?

And the people, who have no relations(or care too), are the ones who are being very honest/blunt about it?

Its like a Newschoolers "big brother" experiment...interesting!

Feb 7 2011 3:51PM
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FreeBallin
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come on man, Rolland did a double 12. We fully get the point that weather was a problem(obvious on the TV).

In my opinion, it just another excuse. And we have heard about 10 of them throughout this thread....
Feb 7 2011 3:57PM
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fredmross
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They're all too busy with hair and make up
Feb 7 2011 4:10PM
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whodunit
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Five years ago, pro males couldn't do ALL of these tricks in an edit or compeition--1080s, spinning both ways, corks, dubs, bunch of different rail tricks.   Five years ago, females were winning major competitions with a 5.  This year, some females throwing 9s in the pipe weren't making it into finals at X games because having a 9 isn't enough anymore. Expectations are rising.  Fast enough?  Apparently not  but if you'll note, pro female skiers aren't even commenting.  They are in the gym and on the slopes, not reading forums that hate on them.  



Feb 7 2011 4:33PM
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FreeBallin
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They might want to, when an 8 year old is showing them up. Maybe it would open theirs eyes or something.
Feb 7 2011 4:47PM
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