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Look in the video section!! we need some video posting regulation.

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eheath
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I know i've been bitching about this alot, i made a thread in the donators forum expecting someone high up to check it out and that has appeared to have failed, so i turn to site discussion, again.


The new generation of NS expects to see the cool edits in the forum. Because of this, not only does it encourage people who make sick edits to post them in the forum but then everyone and their mother think its okay to post their video in the forum.


This is causing the video section to die. video are getting substantially lower views than they used to, compared to even a year or two ago. this is because people don't look at the video section anymore and were on a slippery slope for it to turn into the photo section, which is dead as abe lincoln.

I propose we completely revamp the video section (im sure you guys are on it because you always are) to the standards people want and completely do away with people post edits int he forum, even if they are "sick" or "super pro" because if kids wanna see sick edits they shouldn't be in the mindset of "oh they'll get posted in the forum" they should be looking at the video section, even 2 years ago i feel like the video section got 10 times the traffic it gets now. i remember in high school id check top rated every day, now videos arent even in the video section anymore....

There aren't "too many videos" being posted, every time i post a video its on the front page of videos for a solid day, if not longer. Thats not alot. if you lazy kids actually looked at the video section, youd realize this.


"if this wasn't posted in the forum, i probably wouldn't have seen it" this is a phrase we need to eliminate. Look at the video section! its fucking sick and people post tons of new videos a day! hate or love its all good.

Please NS, use the video section.
Jan 12 2011 12:11PM
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PJS.
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i agree. even though i have no historical context to do so
Jan 12 2011 12:12PM
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thebeesknees
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I appreciate this thread
Jan 12 2011 12:14PM
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GolfingElephant
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can someone move this over to ski gabber for a couple days.
the people Evan is adressing probably don't know even know this forum exists
Jan 12 2011 1:30PM
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Shenanigans
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I approve of this message
Jan 12 2011 2:05PM
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t_rob
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agree with the first half, don't really understand what to do with the second.
Jan 12 2011 2:08PM
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Ch.
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this needs a sticky in ski gabber
Jan 12 2011 2:12PM
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1337
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eheath for mod!
Jan 12 2011 2:49PM
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Mr.Bishop
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I PROMISE YOU

that some day we will deal with this issue.

With everything based in code though, release dates are extremely flexible.... henceforth this fix not getting launched about 2 years ago. :)

eHeath is right though - look in the video section its rad.

NSTV channels are pretty cool too. Honestly if you're looking for the top rated vids check NSTV Channel #1.

https://newschoolers.com/ns/content/nstv
Jan 12 2011 3:50PM
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PJS.
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exactly
Jan 12 2011 5:02PM
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steezyjibber
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yes yes yes

my last two vids got not a comment
Jan 12 2011 5:50PM
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thebeesknees
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My only vid got 1...
Jan 12 2011 5:50PM
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eheath
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Prime example of the problem.


hornbeck video that windells posted. even with orange name and a big name like hornbeck, this video went unnoticed geting 12 ratings and under 2000 views in about 3 weeks now...

https://www.newschoolers.com/ns/content/viewvideo/id/394223/member_id/99641/

if this was one-two years ago, that video would have gone top rated on day 1.
Jan 12 2011 5:57PM
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Dustin.
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Wow, you're absolutely right. I've noticed that I too have started to stick to the forums more since they are filled with so many videos. I never saw that one.
Jan 12 2011 7:52PM
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triebby
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Well said and I fully agree. Back in the day even shitty edits by no names would get 15 comments. Now, people are lucky if they get 5.

Here is another example of a fucking sick, overlooked edit: https://www.newschoolers.com/ns/content/viewvideo/id/382112/

I've seen a number of posts recently in which people are asking where Callum Pettit is, has he been skiing, is he not as good as his brother, etc. If people looked in the video section they would know.
Jan 12 2011 8:33PM
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A.Eberhard
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I feel as though the content just isn't great. I like to watch well put to get edits with either decent skiing or good editing, but all I find in the vid section lately is like 10 second clips of somebody doing a k-fed or front 4 out? I don't want to see that shit so I never really visit it.
There is some good stuff in there that I will watch and rate or comment and it doesn't have to be an orange name or pro just something decent to watch.

I think if the quality of video posted goes up people would go back plus an easier way to search the vids would be a lot better.
Jan 12 2011 9:46PM
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thatsG
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I agree, but when will we see a new clown school?
Jan 12 2011 10:56PM
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.frenchy
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I mostly lurk in the video section, but i'll comment/rate for now on.

And just for you eheath i wont post videos in ski gabber.. Haha

Jan 13 2011 8:19AM
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I_Am_Mod
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just contributing in here to show that i'm behind evan on this one ...
Jan 13 2011 8:55AM
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Obie.
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yea you lil fucker,,(jokes)  But i completly agree with this well written argument, i have noticed this also and i havent even been on NS that long...., videos nowdays get like 20 comments/ratings tops that are really dope and deseve more. The last video that got the credit that it deserved by my knowledge is the Dale Talkington Spring Edit, has sooo many ratings and comments.
Jan 13 2011 11:19AM
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I_Am_Mod
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also another thing: the 30seconds advertisement i have to watch everytime i visit the video section is annoying as hell!

it's like starting a diesel on a winter morning...
Jan 13 2011 11:23AM
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Dustin.
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Another great point.
Jan 13 2011 1:08PM
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Bumblesteeze
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I completely agree. This one time I posted a video on the video section and someone flamed me because it was already posted on ski gabber. The video section is the place to upload videos, that's why it's called the "video" section.
Jan 13 2011 2:25PM
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J-Evs
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i agree completely
by kids posting vids in teh forums it just encourages it more.

i have vids from two years ago that got thousands of views right off the bat and quite frankly they sucked and now i upload edits that are atleast what i think halfway decent and can barely get a few hundred views after a week.
Jan 13 2011 3:36PM
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danbrown
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i support this
Jan 13 2011 4:14PM
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Yung_Gnarley
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PRobably because it hasn't converted yet...
Jan 13 2011 5:15PM
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eheath
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meh, you can still watch it and there is a vimeo link
Jan 13 2011 7:52PM
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jason...
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i think videos are all right in regional or cult forums, but they definitely should stay out of the main forums. the video section is definitely dying and although i've only been here since '07 i even notice how little traffic it gets these days.
Jan 13 2011 8:20PM
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trey.f
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i totally agree. my brother posted a video like a week ago and it has all 10.00 ratings but not enough for he top rated page. and now that its not on the first page of latest videos no one looks at it so its dead instead of being on top rated

https://www.newschoolers.com/ns/content/viewvideo/id/397642/cat/latest/search_string/heat+in+a+can/
Jan 13 2011 8:33PM
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trey.f
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^ sorry
Jan 13 2011 8:39PM
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SkiThe603
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it isn't dead, but people don't really rate as much
Jan 13 2011 10:32PM
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Milksteak
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THANK YOU
Jan 13 2011 10:57PM
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Downtofilm
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Jan 15 2011 5:57AM
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erikK
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And I think people looking for critique's can keep posting in M&A, because those people are targeting an audience of higher knowledge
Jan 15 2011 8:47AM
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Mr_pretzel
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This.

I remember before i was a member that i only went on here to look in the video section and everything had a tone of comments and views. I miss it.
Jan 15 2011 4:34PM
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Ben.
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yeah, i remember when top rated changed constantly, because people actually checked in there. now the same video sit there for months.
Jan 15 2011 7:55PM
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Elmo.
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i look everyday for new edits from kids to get me stoked. people need to watch more in there instead of getting higher post counts.
Jan 16 2011 4:21PM
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JStrathern
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People should definitely rate more.. it wasnt a sick edit or anything but I put up a video of my friends 80 foot superman front yesterday and its already got 2100 views but only 31 ratings.. hmmm
Jan 16 2011 9:00PM
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GnarNinja
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Yes, I look at the video section more than anything else on the site, and I think more people also should.
Jan 16 2011 9:08PM
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BITS
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yea, youre right.
Jan 17 2011 10:47AM
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DERS.
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one idea i thought of is making the preview picture bigger kinda like the way it is in the pictures section. and when you scroll over it, it selects and shows random frames from the video (kinda like porn sites) that way you can preview the vid and better decide whether or not you want to watch it.
Jan 18 2011 11:25AM
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I_liketobutter
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and the picture section's so bad, those are now being posted in ski gabber too....

for fucks sake put your damn for sale pictures in a private gallery
Jan 18 2011 12:55PM
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cobra_commander
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Fuck ya, easy way to do this would be to ban people who post videos in the forums.
Jan 18 2011 2:58PM
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eheath
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BAN BAN BAN YES BAN THEM FUCKS
Jan 18 2011 10:05PM
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MADDECENT
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I'm probably too new to the site, but this is something that annoys me.
Jan 19 2011 10:48AM
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eheath
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Glad admins are really addressing this problem.
Jan 19 2011 12:00PM
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jca
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seriously, most of them are just blatant spam.
Jan 20 2011 1:52AM
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Dustin.
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Ya it seems to take years to have the most simple changes take place on here.
Jan 20 2011 3:15AM
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Silence
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Hard to put a change in where no videos can be posted in SG - takes manual deleting..and it gets done, slowly but surely
Jan 20 2011 6:01AM
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snwbrdmilf
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That's not fair. You don't know that there isn't a thread going on the mod forum discussing this very issue. Finding a common ground is the hard part. So yes, we are addressing the problem. Don't think we are ignoring you.
Jan 20 2011 9:11AM
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Dustin.
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Delete the threads and let the member know they need to post the video in the video section.  Ya it will be tedious at first, but people will begin to pick up on the process quickly.  That is a solution that could be implemented immediately.
Jan 20 2011 12:53PM
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