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Where to mount my bindings

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Thelaminater
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Im a beginner skier and am going to try to do about 50% park and 50% groomers/powder. Should I center mount my bindings, put them at midsole, etc? I know there are threads on this but what do you guys think I should do as a beginner?
Dec 26 2010 2:28AM
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iffe
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Impossible to tell without knowing what kind of ski you're going to mount them on.
Dec 26 2010 3:32AM
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phelps
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^what he said. But if you just want to know anyways....

A center or true center mount will put your body mass above the sweet spot of the ski (center), giving you more tail if you're backseat a lot/making sliding rails easier and most everything else in the park

A rearward or back mount is what I would recomend for skiing groomers and powder. You have less tail (so if you're backseat a lot it doesn't help), and is NOT RECOMENDED FOR PARK.

You can also do a progressive mount. All i can really help you out on for this mount is a know its used more by female skiers, and puts your mass in front of the sweet spot (center of the ski).

You can make minor incraments in between these 3 major mount position, but a lot of this really comes down to what ski you're riding/what you're comfortable on and what and where you are skiing.

If ya got any questions about this just PM me.

Dec 26 2010 10:50AM
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Thelaminater
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oops sorry forgot to put that in. Line Masterminds
Dec 26 2010 4:19PM
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Kreech
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I like center.... its much better in the park, and with a relatively skinny ski like the masterminds that wouldnt be great in the powder anyway, might as well get the park performance. you wont lose too much pow performance.
Dec 26 2010 4:37PM
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Thelaminater
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I'm still kind of getting my technique and form down so would it be harder with them center mounted?
Dec 27 2010 12:40AM
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alexat955
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I think something like -2 cm sounds like it will be good. Good enough for park but petter for all- mountain
Dec 27 2010 12:44AM
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Kreech
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center mounted is a bit more difficult in tight trees, moguls,etc. just because you have more tail to push around, but if you just power through your turns harder then they'll be just fine. also if you center mount these and then get some wider, mounted back pow skis further down the line, you'll ski like a superhero. at least, thats my experience.....
Dec 27 2010 1:00AM
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phelps
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This is up for debate but the masterminds are a park and groomer ski. You can try to rip in pow but thats not what it was designed for. If I was you I would mount it in the center-you can still shred all day in the groomers, and then come to the park and slide rails and stomp jumps alll day.
Dec 27 2010 2:18AM
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Thelaminater
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Ya I kinda just grouped powder/moguls/groomers all into one category. I'm actually a snowboarder so on powder days I'll probably be snowboarding.
Dec 27 2010 2:31AM
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phelps
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oh, thats convienent haha, yep center for sure.
Dec 27 2010 2:37AM
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Thelaminater
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Now my next question is whether to mount them at core center or true center. The Masterminds have no markings on them except for the midsole point so how would you find core center?
Dec 27 2010 3:17AM
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iffe
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If you're only going to spend 50% of time in the park then I think that center mounting non-symmetrical skis makes no sense. You will lose lots of groomer performance. I'd go with about 2 cm back from center. How far from true center is the core center?
Dec 27 2010 3:35AM
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phelps
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Ok a true center is obviously in the exact middle of the ski, so if you're probably landing switch a lot and skiing park quite frequently on these thats a recomendation. where as a normal center mount is a litle farther back, this really is still a "park mount" but limits you're balance while riding switch and stuff, however, gives less of a feel of the tail. All in all i would go with a true center mount (since you said u will be snowboarding most of the stuff outside of park), because a true center mount only gives benefits (for park).

Please corect me if im wrong about anything i said, agian I'm not an expert.

Dec 27 2010 3:36AM
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iffe
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I actually prefer mounting skis a bit back from true center even for park. The ski (non-symm.) is designed to be mounted farther back so that's where you should mount to get the most out of it. The length of the ski makes a difference too. If you have 160 cm skis mounted 2 cm back from TC (true center), then you'll have a lot more nose than tail. If you mount 180 cm skis 2 cm back from TC the difference between your nose and tail will be smaller. I don't think that the 2 cm difference (on long skis) makes any real difference balance-wise.

I've had skis mounted behind, at and in front of true center and demoed tons of skis with different mounts. Based on those experiences I'd say that you shouldn't center mount non-symmetrical skis. 2 or even 1 cm back from TC usually makes a big difference. I guess this is an unpopular opinion in NS, but oh well.
Dec 27 2010 3:45AM
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phelps
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Yeah thanks for the input! In a park situation any mount inbetween 6-7.5 cm forward will have the similar effect of stabalized switch riding more centered for rails and such, correct?
Dec 27 2010 4:12AM
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phelps
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Yeah thanks for the input! In a park situation any mount inbetween 6-7.5 cm forward will have the similar effect of stabalized switch riding more centered for rails and such, correct?
Dec 27 2010 4:13AM
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phelps
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Yeah thanks for the input! In a park situation any mount inbetween 6-7.5 cm forward will have the similar effect of stabalized switch riding more centered for rails and such, correct?
Dec 27 2010 4:20AM
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Thelaminater
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Thanks for the input guys. I just bought some griffons and told them to put them halfway between true center and midsole. Hopefully they don't screw it up.
Dec 27 2010 10:13PM
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