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Afterbangs on pow?

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Keith.
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Ok so i might be going to banff (not sure which mountain yet) for march break and I realized I dont have pow skis, with the chance that we get pow.. Would I be okay skiing pow on my afterbangs for a couple days? Or would it be shitty and just fall every minute and shit.. I really have to ask this because i've never really skied pow, I live in ontario and my home mountain(hill) is really small and is 90+ man made snow so I dont have a clue about pow..

Thanks in advance
Dec 8 2010 5:21PM
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chasecmc
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I've riden my afterbangs on a few semi-powder days and it's really not bad. of course it's not amazing like skiing something fat but it's still a ton of fun.
Dec 10 2010 7:04PM
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Tanner-D
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hahaha you dont ski pow much do you? Skiing backseat isn't skiing. You want to be up on top and you dont need rockers for this you just have to have some speed and a steep run although rockered skis will help
Dec 10 2010 7:11PM
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binturong-qwerty
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guys Mike Douglas was using the salomon 2012's in pow and THEY WERE CENTERMOUNTED
I have abangs too
I skied them last year and they were sort of ok but My parents said I could demo pow skis if i saved up the money, so i did.
I will be demoeing pow skis this season or buying a cheap pair.
If i were you i would demo a pair but you don't have to.
Dec 10 2010 7:23PM
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Keith.
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Alright thanks alot everyone :)
Dec 10 2010 8:35PM
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ThaLorax
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you do realize that the 2012's are like 90mm int he waste? most people around the world still consider that to be a fat ski...
Dec 11 2010 2:57AM
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steezeeepolizeee
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holy shit this whole backseat argument is pissing me off.

It sounds like almost noone here has skied powder in varying conditions on a variety of skis.

fuck this is why NS pisses me off so much when ppl chime in about shit they don't know SHIT about. If I wants some tips on my afterbang form then ill ask, if you have ACTUALLY SKIED POWDER (ON REAL MOUNTAINS "FUCK YEA TANNER) before then you can have an opinion. going and doing a slash turn on the side of the park with center-mounted invaders does not...
Dec 11 2010 3:10AM
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Tablespoon
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2012's also have quite a bit of rocker. Afterbangs do not.
Dec 11 2010 6:55AM
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eddy9
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If it's only for a few days do it but it won't be the best experience
Dec 11 2010 8:58AM
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seanzy96
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couldn't agree more. most of the people in this thread do not know what time it is. shred on!
Dec 11 2010 3:02PM
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yuck
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last year i went out to revelstoke, right after a 40+cm dump on top of a good amount of fresh snow. so we skied the best powder of my life for the next few days, and it was hands down the best skiing of my life, one of the best times of my life in general. i was on line invaders, basically the same dimensions as afterbangs, and it was still unreal. dont sweat it, you dont need powder skis for just a couple days
Dec 11 2010 3:10PM
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ThaLorax
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i saw a ton of people skiing breck today on afterbangs and there was 14 inches of powder.
Dec 11 2010 10:52PM
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Mt_Baker_Man
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Dec 12 2010 3:07AM
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buddychaps
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k i don't mean leaning full backseat, but if you got center mounted skis and you're skiing square, your tips are going to dive, especially if you aren't skiing a very steep run. Can we all agree that in order to keep your tips from sinking you need to lean back, just a little? or am i just thinking too hard about this concept?Or maybe i'm craaaazaaayyy
Dec 15 2010 2:17AM
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Mt_Baker_Man
Posts: 2012 - Karma: 105
So let them sink! Skiing the deep is about subtly, smoothness, and balance. You don't have to float on top to enjoy it. Quite the opposite actually.

BTW: why would you dead center mount Lizzies anyway? Your weight should be over your toes, not your midfoot. Even mounting symmetrical skis at dead center makes no sense. Once you lean to engage your boots, your well past the center of the ski, your tails wash out, and you are forced back to maintain balance, leading to shin bang, and poor skiing.
Dec 15 2010 3:07AM
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buddychaps
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my lizzies are 2 cm back from center. i guess i was referring to the op with afterbangs, which are most likely dead center.
Dec 15 2010 11:06PM
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Blake.P
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i've been skiing dynastar troublemakers for the past few years in all conditions, and they are 79 underfoot. and that includes a lot of deep PNW pow days. you have to stay a little backseat to keep the tips out, and floating is hard, but it is possible.

that said, i just got some fat skis (ON3P Caylors) and they are so much easier to ski deep in.
Dec 16 2010 12:14AM
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IanAvery-Leaf
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Quoting Willard from Dec 10 2010 12:03:28
Just had to lean back alot
no you don't....
Quoting BuddyLite from Dec 15 2010 2:17:30
Can we all agree that in order to keep your tips from sinking you need to lean back, just a little?
why would you do that....
Quoting Blake.P$ from Dec 16 2010 12:14:09
stay a little backseat
no





I'm disappointed NS :(
Dec 16 2010 12:15PM
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buddychaps
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don't cry
Dec 16 2010 1:42PM
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Mestenberg
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+1
Dec 16 2010 1:49PM
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Willard
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Get some centered afterbangs and go bomb some cliffs and make sure to learn foward. Make sure its actual powder 8 inches plus. Im really excited to see this coming from a kid who lives in New Hampshire. I was skiing some chopped up snow from the day before.
Dec 16 2010 2:32PM
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IanAvery-Leaf
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so sorry I don't live somewhere up to your standards

and I really hope that people on TGR don't see this thread (more specifically, you're posts and posts like it)
Dec 16 2010 2:42PM
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Willard
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Sorry maybe we should delete this and you should make a thread on how to ski pow on centered park skis to help all of us who cant do it.
Dec 16 2010 2:51PM
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IanAvery-Leaf
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it doesn't matter what skis you have, its so simple: don't lean back, ski like you normally would in pow. But it seems like you might be a gape if your still questioning me, so you might be a backseat bandit?
ski with pressure on the front of your boots whether there's pow or not
Dec 16 2010 2:57PM
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a2freeski
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i ski backseat even on ice. ha. ha.
Dec 16 2010 4:24PM
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Tablespoon
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/facepalm

Learn to ski properly.
On the other hand: Skied 15++ inches of pow on my anthems today, because i havent gotten my Bacons yet. It worked to some extent, but they are really not that good.
Dec 16 2010 4:55PM
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sk00t3r
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if you can ski properly you can do it on anything.
Dec 16 2010 6:37PM
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MothaHucker
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especially if you have never skied pow it will be especially hard. i reccomend just rentin some fattys while ur there. your have alot more fun/better first expierience with pow.
Dec 16 2010 6:46PM
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iggs
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you can ski it but you're gonna sink way deep into the pow. the reason for pow skis is so the weight is distributed and you can stay on top or at least not sink deep into the pow

Dec 16 2010 6:57PM
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Chompo.
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exactly this... but last year i got lucky and ended up having to demo a lot because of a ton of snow... So this year i just saved some money and bought a pair.
Dec 16 2010 8:29PM
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WaterBottle
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Zing
Dec 16 2010 8:55PM
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Tanner-D
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ha so true people on NS need to get out of the park
Dec 16 2010 9:06PM
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hjb
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Dec 17 2010 6:33AM
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californiagrown
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this thread is a perfect reason why everyone things newschool skiers cant actually ski.

and to williard, landing a cliff in pow is different than skiing in pow. land through your heels, ski through your shins. get out of the park, and actually learn to ski. no one cares that you think you shred, a good lesson would really help you learn to ski powerfully and in control.
Dec 17 2010 2:12PM
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BroNamath
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True, mounting point matters a lot, especially on the backsteat or not discussion
Dec 17 2010 10:26PM
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ThaLorax
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hey guyz itz called counter-balancing, not leaning back. unless you want to "afterbang" in the pow hehe.
Dec 18 2010 11:01PM
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a2freeski
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clearly i was kidding........i like my acl in tact
Dec 19 2010 7:08PM
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Kevski
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I take it you've never skied in deep wet powder on park skis, had the tips dive when skiing normally and faceplant in the snow for no reason. Have some fun with that, then tell me how retarded everyone is for compensating for their centered park skis by keeping their tips up.

Thing is, you can still keep your weight back and have pressure on the front of your boots. Are you complaining about the guys who ride with their weight back or the ones who keep boot pressure in their heels?
Dec 20 2010 6:46PM
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Mt_Baker_Man
Posts: 2012 - Karma: 105
Don't mount dead center... there is almost no point... your center of balance, pressure, and weight should be over the BALLS of your feet, not your midfoot. And if you must... buy schitzos so you can ski outside the snowboard park and not be a total gaper douche.

/end thread.
Dec 21 2010 12:43AM
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binturong-qwerty
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Afterbangs are 88 mm in the waist, which is not much of a difference.
To the rocker argument, you don't need Rocker to ski pow.
I actually skied them yesterday on some pow that was on the heavy/wet side and my 09/10 166 Afterbangs actually float very well. I did charge and since I am 5' 4'', the longer skis felt a little bit stiffer to me, and I actually did not chatter when i was charging.
Dec 21 2010 8:38AM
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-ROY-
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totally kill pow browski! i live in wisco and skiied like 5-6 inches of fresh on the sides of groomers the other day.
Dec 21 2010 9:32AM
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