Binding Screws Pressing out of Base

Advise him to fuck some people up.

whoever mounted them screwed up. that shouldnt happen if you use a jig and the proper bit. even freehand mounting, you should be taping off the drill bit so you know how far to drill into the ski.

this happened to me once a few years back with my invador minis because the ski was  to thin and so weak my binding would rip out my ski every couple of weeks and it sucked.

his shop sucks at mounting skis

Not to be condescending, but you wax skis for a business and you've never seen this?

If I recall, some people have chosen the base grind route - see if that works.

What skis were they? My lizzies had dimples in the bases after they got mounted because they ski is so thin, the shop even called up line to ask about it because they did everything right and Line said it wasn't an issue. The dimples are now gone just from skiing.

also, were they just dimples like I talked about or were they protruding alot more? Basegrinding is probably the best bet.

theyre fine. just take the screws out and file them down a little bit

exactly.

take the screw out of the hole and place a towel or paper towell over the base where the dimple is. hit the dimple with a hammer a couple of times until dimple is gone or nearly gone and then sand over the spot with a sanding block or sandpaper.

No I haven't is it a common occurrence?
It's a sidebuieness to support my own ski career, makes a fair bit. But it's specialised hand tuning, not using machines except roto-brush.
I'm gong to call the rep he got them from now and see what he has to say.

The Skis were 191 Volk 2011 Mantra's with Marker Griffon Bindings.

people who mounted his skis are legally responsible for the safety of his bindings at the time of the mount...and they're responsible for not ruining his gear. they should definitely buy him new gear...and he should probably take it elsewhere to be mounted..that suckss though

the shop is 100% liable for that, that should never happen. EVER.

ya brooke it is a mess up but it doesn't really affect anything which is good i guess... thats why the shop is saying don't worry. It's a pretty greasy thing to do and the shop is liable. Tell your friend to invest in a crowbar :p

 he should go raise some hell dirty south style

EVEN IF THERE'S A FIRE!!

bring that shit into the shop. it is 110% their fault for not mounting the ski right. a mistake like that could compromise the performance of the ski and possibly make the safety of riding them a concern.

Same thing happened to me with Lizzies, except the dimples are still there. They don't really bother me except for when I'm scraping off wax.

It happened because of some combination of the holes not being drilled deep enough, wide enough, or not being tapped. There is probably no harm to the ski as far as it falling apart or safety of the bindings. If it were a race ski: big problem as far as performance goes, but it likely would go unnoticed park/free ride. Planing the bumps off then a light grind would usually fix the issue. The shop should definitely be concerned about the problem (I would be if one of my tuners did that) and should perform the above remedy for free and a few free tunes on top of that (if you trust them) or give your money back. Asking for a new pair of skis is a little over the top and whiny, but not totally uncalled for it the skis were brand new and of the "race" type

Except that it will shorten the life of the bases on those skis.  Removing the screws and filing them down won't make the bumps go away.  So when the guy gets his skis stone ground, those raised areas will get ground down more and eventually there will be no base there.  If he is only going to have his skis tuned once or twice over the life of the skis, it may not be an issue. 

Brooke, I called a shop owner in Denver who I really respect.  He said that they have replaced skis where this has happened.  It may have been caused by tapping the screw holes too deep.  Or. often the screws for the heel piece and the toe piece are different lengths.  The tech could have swapped the screws by mistake.

It would only be the responsibility of the manufacturer if they messed up and left out a layer in the ski construction or there was some other flaw.  That doesn't happen frequently.  Bottom line is that the shop is responsible.  Your guy could demand that they replace the skis or fix them. 

The fix would involve pulling the screws and using a heat gun and pressure to try to get the base to flatten out again.  Heat up the base, put a metal scraper over the dimples and then use c-clamps to hold it down while it cools.  After it cools they could try to mount them again.  I would not recommend that you try to do this for him.  If you leave the heat gun on just slightly too long, it could cause the base to delam.  Then you'll be the one that has to replace the skis.  The shop should be willing to do this.  Obviously they don't want to have to replace the skis, and this gives them a second chance at correcting the problem.  

Hope this helps.