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Shredability
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http://www.evo.com/alpine-ski-bindings/marker-the-squire-110mm-brakes-2011.aspx

Are they any good?? I would be mounting them on Icalantic nomads (centre). I like landing switch. I weight 170 pounds and am 5'11' I ski some park but not much mostly pow and bc. Not really big mountain so I don't have to worry about the low din of the upper end, I usually just ride on like 7-8 anyways.

Also, I really dig the green:
http://www.evo.com/alpine-ski-bindings/marker-the-squire-90mm-brakes-2011-2.aspx
So I was wondering if ski shops will bend the breaks the extra cm to fit the skis or if would just be better off getting the 110 breaks?

Thanks
Nov 17 2010 10:40PM
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Kangbang
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get fks. squire is just plastic and has a din range from 3-11.
i just saw a guy selling fks 155 din 6-15 on here for like $150 i think.
Nov 17 2010 10:47PM
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joshua
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At 170 there is no way you should be considering these bindings. They are an entry level binding as far as I know and are plastic. They are thinner/smaller than griffons and some people have had problems even with griffons. I would get a metal binding like FKS or Jesters if I were you.
Nov 17 2010 10:50PM
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Kangbang
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they are all plastic as my post stated above
Nov 17 2010 10:52PM
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CDdesign
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the squire binding is a fantastic binding!  very very light and if your din isnt above 9 than it is pretty much your lightest option
Nov 17 2010 11:18PM
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Kangbang
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hard to believe since its a plastic binding, a entry level binding. if griffons had some problem, then these bindings will too probably
Nov 17 2010 11:20PM
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Shredability
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This?

https://newschoolers.com/ns/forums/readthread/thread_id/579872/

How does one aqure a larger brake for these specific binding?
Nov 18 2010 12:11AM
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Kangbang
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bend them
Nov 18 2010 12:19AM
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Shredability
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Whats the probability of them breaking?
Nov 18 2010 12:24AM
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Kangbang
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well it depends how old they are. since those fks are like only a few years old, they most likely will not break
Nov 18 2010 12:32AM
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TheClap.
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you
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you can bend any fks brake and it will be fine. its a pain in the ass though
Nov 18 2010 2:42AM
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Pipe_Munky
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you're better off with a griffin
Nov 18 2010 9:13AM
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Kangbang
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he's better off with fks
Nov 18 2010 10:06AM
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Kangbang
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ive heard good thing about those bindings. and 4 frnt bindings as well
Nov 18 2010 10:25AM
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AJizzle
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Same thing^
Nov 18 2010 2:54PM
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Shredability
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...not productive to the thread, after he said that I researched specifics and watched a couple vids, most of them said that the breaking factor will depend on the age...
Nov 18 2010 6:42PM
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JStrathern
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lolque
Nov 18 2010 6:46PM
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I went into the most trusted shop in the area, looked at the squire, griffons, and px12's the shop owner told me that the squire is the best option for park skis of my size, and it was the cheapest. They look really nice, and I read professional reviews and they perform well.
Nov 18 2010 6:48PM
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crawley
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Squire is a decent binding for people under 140lbs. Griffon is a decent binding for people under 180lbs. They aren't great, they aren't FKS or STH bindings, but they get the job done and are moderately reliable. People always seem to talk about how light the squire is, but all junior bindings are crazy light anyways, and more importantly the weight of a binding don't mean shit.

OP- if you are growing you need to get Jesters, sorry. If not you can get by with griffons. Do not buy squires if you weigh 170.
Nov 18 2010 7:14PM
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joshua
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Don't sacrifice durability/reliability for lighter weight. Sure squires might be okay, but there are certainely better options out there.
Nov 19 2010 12:03AM
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bdarb207
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generally if you have to ask like, "will these work" because you're right on the edge of being able to use them properly, it's probably time to just buy some big boy bindings. junior stuff is for juniors, sounds like your on your way out of that section. stuffs more pricey but its all better too.
Nov 19 2010 6:19AM
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Shredability
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On another note I'm looking at some 4ftnt deadbold 12's and they look pretty sick

http://www.getboards.com/products/4frnt-DeadBolt-12-Ski-Bindings.html

there cheaper then the fks and then i don't have to bend the breaks

Would this be a better option?
Nov 20 2010 7:57PM
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StReEtPIRATES
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Read this, and may all your binding troubles be resolved. https://www.newschoolers.com/ns/forums/readthread/thread_id/481906/
Nov 20 2010 8:14PM
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Backyard.Skier
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... they are plastic but they have carbon stringers which makes them very strong, all the new marker royal family have re-enforced carbon stringers in the plastic. They are a good binding for lighter people (preferably under 140lbs) but you are just to big. If you are looking for a stronger, light binding look into the griffons. Fks are a good binding but most people do not realize that its is not that great for metal to go from super cold conditions to warmer conditions, such as in the lodge or car. I mean that metal expands and compresses as they cool down and warm up. No doubt metal is stronger, im just saying.
Nov 20 2010 8:38PM
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Backyard.Skier
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^no hate just saying.
Nov 20 2010 8:48PM
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AJizzle
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^stepping away for his previous statement, because of visions of being flamed lol
Nov 21 2010 12:27AM
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AJizzle
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^stepping away for his previous statement, because of visions of being flamed lol
Nov 21 2010 12:28AM
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crawley
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Just so you never say anything that stupid again I figured I would help you out. Metal can successfully change from warm to cold without becoming brittle or losing any strength. Plastic, however, has a MUCH lower melting point then metal, and as such, can easily become brittle and suffer failure due to fracture as a result of extreme temperature changes which cause changes in physical properties. That's why we build planes, boats, heavy duty equipment and other things out of metal, not plastic, for example.

My personal case in point: I like griffons quite a bit. But I buy them new, and sell them after 2 seasons. I like STH bindings quite a bit. I buy them in any condition, and would use them for several lifetimes.
Nov 21 2010 12:36AM
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Supafresh
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There a really good binding for the price and they are crazy light. Im 150Ibs and havent had any problems with them yet. I would recomend getting griffons if your over 160Ibs thou.
Dec 8 2010 5:06PM
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CTD
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you are so very incorrect. A- room temperature is not hot. that is not a drastic temperature change, nor is it something that happens instantaneously. Metal needs to be very, very hot or undergo VERY drastic changes in temperature to be affected structurally. Also, as someone else stated, plastic is far more susceptible to deformation from temperature change, by a factor of 10.


Metal bindings are so far and above better, its not even funny. OP, stop being stupid and get a metal binding. if your 170 and skiing remotely hard, you are diservicing yourself by going with Squires. even if you dont REALLY need it, youll never need to ask this kind of question again because they will last forever, and you wont be worried about your bindings breaking and you sliding down a mountain and dying. PS, FKS's are light, and the 12/14 din ones are some of the lightest bindings you can get.
Dec 8 2010 6:54PM
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