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Best boot for shin bang????????

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ReedPeterson
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I always get hella shin bang when i ski. I need ideas on the softest boot out there. Ive looked at the fult tilt booters.. but i dont know anyone with them so i need feedback from people that have them.
Oct 19 2010 4:50PM
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skithesprings
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the OG booters cure shinbang. period. the new ones have a #4 flex tongue that is ok, but the oldschool #2 flex is where its at.
Oct 19 2010 4:54PM
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ReedPeterson
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aight thank for the info

Oct 19 2010 4:59PM
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ReetsAdeets
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Inb4 fulltilts solve all your problems
Oct 19 2010 4:59PM
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skithesprings
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too late bro.

but seriously... they did for me.
Oct 19 2010 5:01PM
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DannyKid
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It's less (nothing) about full tilts than most people think, I won't go into it too much, just watch this vid. The kid knows what he's talking about.

Oct 19 2010 5:21PM
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meeesh
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There are no boots best for shinbang... searchbar buddy... You ski backseat, ski correctly = bye bye shinbang.

youre welcome.

Oct 19 2010 5:43PM
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ReedPeterson
Posts: 126 - Karma: 11
yeah i know that...i guess i ment was what is the softest boot...cuz when you have shin bang the softer the boot the less your shins hurt.
Oct 19 2010 5:51PM
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T.DUDE
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not always true..serioulsy,, just go to a bootfitter,, that is one of the main solutions to shinbang..at least in my opinion.
Oct 19 2010 6:30PM
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ReedPeterson
Posts: 126 - Karma: 11
i already went to a boot fitter. I just need a soft boot so i wont get shin bang again.
Oct 19 2010 6:32PM
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smile=]
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a booster strap will help a lot too
Oct 19 2010 6:35PM
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CDdesign
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you can always take the boot you have and get it softened
Oct 19 2010 6:36PM
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ReedPeterson
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Yeah i got one. it helped alot but still got shin bang. I even got a shin pad and molded insoles and i still got shin bang. Do not get technica agent 80 they suck.
Oct 19 2010 6:37PM
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CDdesign
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are they too big?  putting a pad on the tongue will only result in it bunching up and still bruising your shin 
sounds like your boots are just to big, but since i am not a psychic, that is something for you to figure out hahaha.
Oct 19 2010 6:46PM
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Ftacnik
Posts: 1997 - Karma: 111
Buying the softest boot won't help, trust me. I tried everything. I had FT booters with a #2 (softest) tongue and booster straps. The answer is the boot that fits the best. I got Dalbellos last season that fit perfect and I haven't had shin bang since.
Oct 19 2010 6:48PM
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special-J
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ahhhh thats why. my agents were soooo awful.
Oct 19 2010 6:52PM
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treymillionaire
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Dalbello Krypton's lowest hinge point of any boot and dynalink.
Oct 19 2010 7:14PM
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Ftacnik
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Those are the boots I have...
Oct 19 2010 7:22PM
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ReedPeterson
Posts: 126 - Karma: 11
Yeah the agents are awful. I just need a soft boot cuz my shins are hella sensitive.
Oct 19 2010 7:25PM
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beermuscles
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go to the gym and workout your legs ..

.. get fitted for a boot that actually fits your feet and lower leg.

and learn to ski correctly.


bam no more shin bang. oh sorry you can't be lazy and just fix your problem with money ..

.. just forget everything i just said then ..
Oct 19 2010 7:28PM
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ReedPeterson
Posts: 126 - Karma: 11
Fuck you dude i know how to ski correctly. Ive been skiing since i was 4.
Oct 19 2010 7:42PM
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That_One_Dude
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A boot where your foot fits correctly will help the shinbang even if you are landing back seat. No one boot is perfect for curing shinbang, most people will say full tilt but like i said they have to fit your foot. I would say get fitted or if the problem still exists, get a booster strap which will hold your shins in place better.
Oct 19 2010 7:44PM
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ReedPeterson
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aight thanks bro
Oct 19 2010 7:56PM
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S.C
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the boot that fits your foot and leg best. See a boot fitter
Oct 19 2010 8:39PM
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treymillionaire
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what helps shin bang.... lower hinge point and cabrio design (3 piece shell) check out these boots in this order, for no shin bang.

in order of least to shin bang to most

1. Dalbello Kryptons rampage/il moro/il moro T
2. Full Tilts
3. Nordica Ace of Spades/dead money/double six



dead last... lange




Oct 19 2010 8:40PM
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cable
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definitely not full tilts
Oct 19 2010 9:19PM
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SkiTheYeast
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Go see a boot fitter as far as I'm conceded it's all about fit I have just a normal boot and never get toe bang or shin bang see A boot fitter!
Oct 19 2010 9:33PM
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_Alex_
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If your getting a boot fitter ask for the race boot fitter, they'll likely have the most experience and provide you with the best fit.
Oct 19 2010 10:18PM
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ReedPeterson
Posts: 126 - Karma: 11
Aight thanks for all of the info guys.
Oct 20 2010 1:12AM
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meeesh
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I can tell you this moment without looking at your feet that your shinbang is 90% caused by the way you ski. I can also tell you that the flex of your boot is about energy transfer to the ski... they don't make a softer boot because of sensitive shins. They make it for the leisure skier who doesn't need to hammer power down to their skis/edges. If you are dead set on a soft flex boot, see a boot fitter like everyone says: what you might not know about your own anatomy is that the way you are set up might not work with a soft flex, making your problem worse.

I literally in the last week sat through 8 hours of boot fitting class learning the anatomy of feet, please take everyones advice.
Oct 20 2010 1:31AM
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beermuscles
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No need to tweak out brosef. Just work on not landing backseat .. that is the main cause of shin bang besides your boots not fitting correctly.

I forgot to add that I use booster straps on my head mojo pros (very stiff boot) and i don't get any shin bang.

when you go out this year and start doing tricks, focus on not landing with your weight back. start small and build up.

it is aggravating to me that people blame their boots for their problems when it truly is themselves. that is why i told you to L2Ski.
Oct 20 2010 1:45AM
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Mt_Baker_Man
Posts: 2012 - Karma: 105
^This^

Shinbang is (usually) caused by too much pressure on the back of your boots, not the front. AND, since flex is a measure of how easily the boot flexes forward, a soft boot is not gonna do shit for shinbang.

Your knees should sit over the toe of your boot while you ski.

The end.
Oct 20 2010 1:49AM
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ReedPeterson
Posts: 126 - Karma: 11
aight. The funny thing is i dont land backseat that often. When i land forward is when my shins hurt. What i mean by "softer boot" is more flex or easier flex. cuz when you have a easier flex then when you lean forward it doesnt put as much pressure on your shin.
Oct 20 2010 1:40PM
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T.DUDE
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is there a gap between your shin and boot cuff?
Oct 20 2010 1:49PM
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ReedPeterson
Posts: 126 - Karma: 11
No not at all. Thats what i thought it was before so i got a pad and booster straps. Didnt help
Oct 20 2010 1:56PM
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Pipe_Munky
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https://newschoolers.com/ns/forums/readthread/thread_id/571444/
Oct 20 2010 2:12PM
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meeesh
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Dude, you aren't getting it. What happens when you have a softer flex is you are going to have to bend deeper into the boot to transfer energy into your turns. You are going to have to end up putting the same amount of pressure into the tongue to get the performance from the boot. If you have a stiffer flex, you get more from less movement. This also plays a role when paired with your bend ability in your ankle and your arch under foot.

If you are DEAD SET on a soft boot, go try a pair of rental boots before you buy = I promise you will feel unsafe almost. Freestyle boots are softer, try the SPK, but like most people will tell you that it is a park only boot and is crap otherwise (not from opinion, just from heresay).

This is all outside of the fact that you ski backseat. sorry, I'm beating a dead horse cause you obviously don't want to be told this... but its going to be the truth.

Oct 20 2010 2:17PM
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ReedPeterson
Posts: 126 - Karma: 11
alright thanks. You guys can say what you want to say but you havent seen me ski.
Oct 20 2010 2:20PM
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onenerdykid
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you're right that we haven't seen you ski, but 100% relying on a softer boot to solve your shinbang problems will not work because there are MULTIPLE cause and effect patterns that dictate the reality of shinbang.

here's a general list of the main causes of shinbang (in no particular order):

-no footbed
-boot is wrong size (usually too big than too small)
-continually landing backseat
-having a gap between the tongue of the boot and your shin, either because you have chicken legs or simply because the tongue just doesn't match up to your leg
-boots that are too soft for you
-boots that are too stiff for you
-boots that are too low on your leg

so, if you 100% rely on a softer boot to solve your shinbang problems you will still get shinbang if one or more of the above causes is present. You could have the right softness but the wrong cuff height and potentially get shinbang. You could have the right softness but no footbed, and potentially get shinbang, etc, etc.

The only way to not get shinbang is to get the correct boot, flex, size, fit, etc for your specific body type. Sometimes that means go softer, sometimes that means go stiffer.
Oct 20 2010 3:40PM
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jason...
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the best boot is the one that fits your foot. no boot will cure shinbang, skiing correctly will cure shinbang.
Oct 20 2010 3:53PM
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Chompo.
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Ace of spades for me, but everyones best boot is different depending on their foot.
Oct 20 2010 3:55PM
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Walkawalka
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this.

learnt to stop landing backseat and it helped temendously, but it didnt totally prevent it. got a footbed and no more shinbang, because my heel was lifting in my boot.

if you have pain in your feet/shins, dont just ignore it. Take them to your local shop, theres a lot they can do for you if they know what they are doing.

Oct 20 2010 4:07PM
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Mt_Baker_Man
Posts: 2012 - Karma: 105
Well, then you need to land more toward the backseat... you see?
Oct 20 2010 4:19PM
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ReedPeterson
Posts: 126 - Karma: 11
aight whatever i understand now. ill go and get a boot fitted again. What is a good boot in general? Dont care bout flex or anything else..just what is a good boot?
Oct 20 2010 4:29PM
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onenerdykid
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the only real answer is the boot that fits your foot shape, your ankle flexibility, and your weight will be the best boot for you.

now, as you pay more for a boot, what get's better? The shell material (nicer plastics that can be ground or stretched with greater success), the liner (better EVA foams that will mold to your foot shape), and the buckles (usually metal constructed ones). Every boot company makes great boots that follow this progression, just find the right one that fits your foot.

and always get a footbed with your boot.
Oct 20 2010 4:44PM
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ReedPeterson
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aight sounds good thanks
Oct 20 2010 4:50PM
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