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KING OF STYLE SHOULD BE ABOUT STYLE

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jreilly
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not about who has the best fucking double cork
Sep 24 2010 2:06AM
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Ftacnik
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inb4..... oh wait.... FIRST!
Sep 24 2010 2:08AM
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BReed
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best double cork is the most stylish double cork... no?
Sep 24 2010 2:13AM
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Bukkakeskitrip
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somewhat agree
Sep 24 2010 2:13AM
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rickroller
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ya getting tired of just seeing dubs
Sep 24 2010 2:18AM
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eheath
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Sep 24 2010 2:19AM
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schwinger
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Sep 24 2010 2:28AM
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messplay
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dubs and style go hand-in-hand...

see?

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Sep 24 2010 2:32AM
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TijmenDal
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5/sw5/7/sw7 are without a doubt the dopest tricks there are. Just because they're not quite as hard as all the dubs and what not, I still like those 4 tricks the best, if done with style. Sick grabs, shifty's and 'late' landings. I really like Colby's 5's in SSD and in general
Sep 24 2010 2:39AM
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Rockhound
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There are always standouts In a comp like that, such as c-van's butter 9. That was such a epic trick among a sea of dub cork mutes
Sep 24 2010 2:40AM
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msndotwav
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True word.. ANd what place did he get.?
Sep 24 2010 3:30AM
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Rockhound
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That was London freeze of last year. Corey vanular with the nose butter 9 w/ tail grab, and a switch butter seven tail. He got 6th place. I should also mention that most everyone who placed top 10, either threw a dub 10 or a dub 12
Sep 24 2010 3:40AM
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ajax
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what i was gonna say
Sep 24 2010 3:48AM
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msndotwav
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6th place, huh? he should have been placed a lot better, cuz IMO his tricks were way more technical than a dub 10, am I right?
Sep 24 2010 3:56AM
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ohio_dreams
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King of mutegrabs and doubleflips!!

My prediction is that we'll be seeing more variation in the doubles as compared to last year: more switch doubles, kangs, new doubles, more stylish grabs etc but..... unfortunately in comps these days a double is what it takes to win

Sep 24 2010 4:23AM
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lanks
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yo, last years online voting was whaack. you can't call a competition king of style, and then qualify someone in through an extensive open online video comp because he brings a sketchy double around to 14 and barely lands it.

an extra 180 =/= king of style. its a cocktease of a comp if you ask me, by getting some of the steeziest entries, yet denying them in lieu of the latest schrab bro.
Sep 24 2010 4:39AM
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Rockhound
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I agree with you for the most part, I do think that people who focus on style and originality should not be penalized. But on the otherhand you have people like Andreas and jossi that can do the most tech tricks, all while making them look super stylie. Simone who can make shit look easy, has a ton of style ie: candide or hornbeck
Sep 24 2010 4:48AM
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HermioneGranger
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Willem Collier?
Sep 24 2010 5:15AM
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WVskiing
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dubstep while duouble corkingg
Sep 24 2010 6:43AM
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84891jnf92048
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i want comps where the number of times you can go upsidediwn is restricted. say, 5 times ber run on a slopestyle course with 4 jumps and a few rails. allows for people to either do a dub or two, but have to do straight spins on a cannon rail, or allow someone to get a really creative run while only going upsidedown once per hit. i justthink comps have gone too far to the tech side, and i care way more about style; i want to see guys like b-dog winning comps
Sep 24 2010 6:56AM
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I_liketobutter
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if i see one more double w/ a "safety grab" knee tuck im going to puke.

i thought it was funny last year or two years ago, i forget. but they had a contest where you had to do your best trick under 7, under 9, and then whatever. maybe it was KOS, i forget. but anyway, the usual guys, TW, lolo, richard permin, style guys basically landed all their 5's,7's, 9's stomped in a carve. meanwhile your freeskier mag advertisement types....you know who i mean. there's about 10 of them, couldn't stomp a 5 without landing in a switch wedge sort of thing to instant recovery then afterbang down the rest of the landing. hilarious.
Sep 24 2010 9:27AM
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I.B
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This.
Sep 24 2010 10:10AM
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Elg
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i think restrictions would be a nice turn in comps this season. Doing something like best 5, best 7, best 9 would be awesome to watch. Butter 9s and "sausage rolls" are way more stylish than double corks anyway.

inb4 someone saying it wont be freesking anymore
Sep 24 2010 1:59PM
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Alex_G
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wild bill
Sep 24 2010 2:04PM
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SlickRick.
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word. skiing has deffinetly reached a plateaud state, unless the jumps start doubling in size. so why just push these unoriginal doubles, and require them to be pro? it should revert back to style
Sep 24 2010 2:05PM
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Mr_pretzel
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One of the stupidest things i have read on here.
Why should we restrict the sport?

Comps are about be technical and somewhat stylish while having a flow throughout your run not being uber stylish, thats what movies and edits are for.

And if b-dog doesn't want to throw doubles he gonna need a damn good run til win. If not why should he win? Cause he is steeze? No someone who trained hard to win that comp by learning doubles, hard tricks and still having some style. This is probably why hornbeck doesn't compete a lot?

When will people see that if your a super steeze skier you don't need comps for people to notice you, all you need is a video camera.

Oh and inb4 hate
Sep 24 2010 2:16PM
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tride
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They already have those comps, they are called aerials and moguls.
Sep 24 2010 4:49PM
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loganimlach
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yeah dude, isn't that where we want our aspect of skiing to head?
Sep 24 2010 4:54PM
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ColinB
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wouldnt you say a triple is getting a bit too close to aerials? I mean, in my mind, sammy and bobby just threw stylish (and in sammy's case; switch) triple flips. the likes of which you can see in aerials.

triples are too much. doubles are alright.
Sep 24 2010 5:03PM
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FreeBallin
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unless you can actually do both tricks...i dont think any of us will know. dub 10's with certain grabs/double grabs could/should easily be just as hard/steezy...key word is "could" because i cant do either!
Sep 24 2010 5:05PM
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I.B
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JOSSI WELLS!
Sep 24 2010 5:17PM
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tride
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Are the tricks getting close to aerials? Sure they are, they always have been. D-spin 7 is just a "poorly executed" back full. Shit, aerial skiers were doing "double cork 14s" back in the 70s, when they first tried full-full and didn't know how to make it straight.

But that's a separate discussion. We were talking about the concept of placing restrictions on what people are allowed to do, and the point about aerials and moguls is that they are an example of contests that place restrictions on what people are allowed to do.
Sep 24 2010 5:24PM
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lanks
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I agree with you in principle... however, this comp is called King of Style.
If it were to live up to it's billing, the format most certainly should be toyed with. As it stands it's laughable, especially given how it's marketed.

Maybe a number of mini-comps within the comp would be best, aka styliest straight air, best on axis spin, nicest double, etc.

I, like you, think that placing blanket restrictions on a contest brings us full circle back to the type of skiing that freeskiing branched off from in the first place. That type of governance is not welcome in the sport.

Sep 24 2010 6:29PM
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snowboardings_7
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this thread should be about snowboarding
Sep 24 2010 6:50PM
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VCharette
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That would be by far the most boring shit ever haha. We don't need to force people to do a certain number of flips and whatnot. One day the JUDGES will change and have a new view on the sport and decide that a more stylish run where you land deeper, spin smoother, have better grabs etc. will take over a spin to win. I think it's gonna happen soon. I can't wait for the end of dub cork frenzy and for everyone to start throwing different tricks again and adding different twists to them, that's gonna be ILL!
Sep 24 2010 7:02PM
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thesheik
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i sort of agree with you, but think that the format that's popular now is leading/in danger of leading to boring, cookie cutter contests. wasn't there a big air or something where one run was nothing more than a 5, one run was based on overall merit with no restrictions? i'd like to see that tried, if only to break up the monotony/predictability of a come where everyone throws the same 2 dubs to win.
Sep 24 2010 7:05PM
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snowboardings_7
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man they will never stop going for dub corks and shit cause there goin triple and quad now
Sep 24 2010 8:00PM
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414.
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go to the snowboarding version of ns... oh wait
Sep 24 2010 8:26PM
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binturong-qwerty
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win.
Sep 24 2010 8:42PM
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nickev
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STYLE!
Sep 25 2010 10:55AM
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nickev
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znSVZi_uxLs&feature=player_embedded
Sep 25 2010 10:56AM
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MADDECENT
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This man has made a great point
Sep 25 2010 11:35AM
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SlickRick.
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o my that was pleasurable
Sep 25 2010 4:28PM
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MANDER
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SO GOOD
Sep 25 2010 4:49PM
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wasatch_rat
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absolutely fucking not. that would make us soo much more like aerials than hucking dubs and triples ever would. think about it, in mogals and aerials, they have a pretty set number of tricks, and they are judged on how perfectly they perform them. i was at the water ramps last weekend, there was a mogal guy there working on his laid out backflip (which he had fucking perfect) for like an hour and a half. but he still kept wanting to get it better, because he kept saying how specific the judging criteria was and how he needed it to get better.

if we restricted guys from doing their best tricks, we would be the same way. "oh how perfect was this guys cork 7 blunt compared to that guys? whose was more stylie?" that would pretty much force people to do the same tricks, because its holding them back from doing their best ones. i get that people are sick of seeing dub 10s and 12s, but thats just where the sport is right now as far as it being the best comp trick. switch 10 used to be the same way, and people hated on it relentlessly.

soo if we want the sport to change, we should just wait for people to get better and to throw different tricks. holding them back doesn't make any sense at all to me. end rant
Sep 25 2010 4:51PM
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84891jnf92048
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i get the point, but park is not the same as aerials, and in never will
Sep 25 2010 4:56PM
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84891jnf92048
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be. but im sick of dubs. sure, they're cool, but i prefer style over ridiculous tricks. and i dont even want triples to get to be as big as dubs.
Sep 25 2010 5:00PM
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JStrathern
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oh.. oh my.. that was nice
Sep 25 2010 5:02PM
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207
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THANK YOU!



^would get my vote.
Sep 25 2010 5:05PM
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snowboardings_7
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go get laid. oh wawit you already have a dick up your ass
Sep 25 2010 5:37PM
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