Playing the devils advocate.
Skiing is not retarded. Everyone knew North Face has been a solid brand and has built quality merchandise before we were born. It was the style of this quality outerwear that many park rats did not like. For this reason, most people recognized TNF as quality outerwear that didn't fit their style. Now that Wallisch and Martini are on TNF, park rats are looking for the same proven quality with a change in style for some of its lines. Thats all.
Pretty sure I didn't reference myself in that post. Just saying. That'd be just the same as me stating that you likely only use gore-tex products since you're bitching about park rats ie you're probably some grungy big mountain tool. Bright colors and baggy fit doesn't necessarily mean a park rat would like it.