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Final Cut Pro vs. Vegas

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Gameboy
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Hey there,

I like to make edits and I'm currently using Vegas 7.0. I can safely say that I'm a n00b when it comes to editing. Anyway, I could have a copy of Final Cut Pro and I was wondering which one was the best/easier to use? Thanks !!
Sep 11 2010 12:24AM
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cheddafries
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i have vegas 7 to. i fucking hate it!!! my brother has final cut and its 100000000000000000 times better. but thats just my two cents
Sep 11 2010 12:27AM
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Bukkakeskitrip
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get vegas 9
Sep 11 2010 12:46AM
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J-Evs
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final cut is superior to all
Sep 11 2010 1:05AM
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Kangbang
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final cut is what the Hollywood movies are edited in.
Sep 11 2010 3:32AM
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eheath
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Why are you posting? Thats so false.
Sep 11 2010 3:45AM
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Kangbang
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noes.
Sep 11 2010 3:49AM
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kfilenda
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I have used both vegas pro 9 and final cut pro, both of them have their strong points and their weaknesses, if you are a mac user...final cut pro, that is all, it is a great application and it may seem hard to learn at first but thats what the google search bar is for, however if you are on a pc go for vegas, it is a very very good program to begin on.
Sep 11 2010 4:36AM
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grilledsteezeyo
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/thread
Sep 11 2010 10:19AM
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Gameboy
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Ok thanks a lot guys! I think I'll get Final Cut Pro to see how it is cause it seems legit to me.
Sep 11 2010 12:55PM
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J-Evs
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ever heard of avid
Sep 11 2010 2:39PM
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miroz
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Hahahahahahahahahaha

Final Cut is "the industry standard" for a number of reasons, which you can Google. From what I've heard, the nice part about it is that it fully integrates with other programs that come in Apple's Production Suite, or whatever its called.

FCP/PP > Vegas fsho.
Sep 11 2010 4:24PM
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Kangbang
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i just heard that from my video teacher.
Sep 11 2010 4:31PM
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eheath
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You should slap him and call him a retard. He's obviously not qualified to teach a video class.
Sep 11 2010 4:45PM
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deleted2
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i second eheath, because full stage movies are edited in avid
Sep 11 2010 8:54PM
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207
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Avid is like 20,000 dollars though right? I know its some extreme amount of money someone give me a price.
Sep 11 2010 9:54PM
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FearTheBeard.
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the video editor avid makes is about $2,500.
Sep 11 2010 10:38PM
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deleted2
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its called torrenting for average people
Sep 11 2010 10:52PM
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mBall
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Someone should actually post why they think FCP is better than Vegas. I have been using Vegas pro 9 for two years and havent had one issue with it other than a small amount of lag during playback. I havent had the chance to try FCP and just about everyone on NS thinks its superior, so someone please tell me why

Sep 12 2010 12:05AM
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BLUMPKING
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I like vegas, its a lot more user friendly than premiere pro. and im on a pc obviously.
Sep 12 2010 12:32AM
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Mooserz
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its more of an industry standard then anything. you go to most television stations and schools and they are most likely working off of fcp.
Sep 12 2010 1:13AM
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iLLbiLLy
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sorry your not going to find a working copy of avid in a torrent. avid uses a hard key so good luck getting one of those. Avid did buy out pinnacle a few years ago. I used to use that program and it suck back in the day, but i bet the people at avid have made vast improvements.
Sep 12 2010 2:50AM
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BLUMPKING
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Everybody Hates Chris is edited on fcp...
Sep 12 2010 10:58AM
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deleted2
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i think alot of tv shows are im not sure though, but i jsut have a feeling that almost all tv shows are, they also might use after effects a tad too
Sep 12 2010 11:26AM
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deleted2
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also the movie benjamin button was edited in fcp suite
Sep 12 2010 11:29AM
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mBall
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Yes but what makes it the industry standard choice? why do they use fcp over vegas?
Sep 12 2010 4:34PM
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deleted2
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In My opinion With the final cut studio, you get all these different programs such as color, soundtrack, motion and others, and the workflow between them is very very simple, but if you have sony vegas it does not come with those programs and it isnt the easiest workflow between programs, and also its just the fact that final cut is more user friendly than vegas, also final cut pro was designed to also work side by side with after effects which i did not know until i just googled that because i dont have after effects, and i thought that premier was the best choice if your running after effects but thats just my two cents so wait for other answers too
Sep 12 2010 4:48PM
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Strobe
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Final Cut has a broader range of tools than Vegas. It also integrates extremely well with the rest of the Final Cut Suite, which is amazing (Soundtrack Pro, Color, Motion, Compressor, Dvd Studio Pro). If you have the space on your harddrive download all of FCS3 (the torrent is right there on TPB if thats what you choose to do). IMO final cut is easier to learn and the workflow is far superior to Vegas as well, and accepts a wider variety of formats. Flexibility, professionalism, broad range of usage, and ease of workflow make it better than Vegas.
Sep 12 2010 5:19PM
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kfilenda
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and its quickly becoming the industry standard, its an amazing program, the workflow is awesome and working between all the programs in the suite together is very easy
Sep 12 2010 6:06PM
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miroz
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Actually no. I would argue that FCP already is an industry standard, but it is definitely not becoming one. In fact, many users are griping that Apple isn't putting enough work into updating and revising FCP - I've read that people are thinking about switching BACK to other things pending Apple doesn't update their programs

Take a look at this - I stumbled upon this on DVXuser and its a pretty neat read; both the thread and posts itself and the links provided therein.

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=219952

DISCLAIMER: I'm not saying FCP isn't good. I'm saying its not growing.
Sep 12 2010 9:04PM
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MADDECENT
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Premiere is great if you dont have a mac
Sep 12 2010 9:12PM
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deleted2
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i agree, when i was looking to download fcp earlier today(upgrading from fce) i was debating on getting premier possibly
Sep 12 2010 9:45PM
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kfilenda
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I read all the posts and such and for my needs fcp does the job and that seems to be the problem that people are having, not being able to do what they need to quick/efficiently enough, thats why I switched from vegas to fcp...just curious, what do you feel needs revision in fcp, one for sure is rendering
Sep 12 2010 11:55PM
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miroz
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This is going to make me sound like the biggest hypocrite, but I don't use FCP - I may in the near future if I can get it for free from a friend, but right now I use Premiere. Why? I know it, its fast, and I like it. Done deal.

Anyways, from what I've read, heard, watched, and tried on FCP, I think that its real strength is color, both in in-program filters and Apple Color itself. Color is an incredible program, and even the clones like Colorista, while they're good, don't stand up to it. That and the ease of use of FCS are what put FCP up there. In most other respects its no better than any others.

I guess I'm only talking about what I do like, not about what needs revision, but I'm not qualified to talk about whats bad. I only really know what I've heard through third party communications, not one-on-one experiences.
Sep 13 2010 1:04AM
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Balto
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until you actually try FCP you wont know, ive used both side by side and vegas is such a cluster fuck when compared to FCP

but of course, if you dont have a mac, you can't use FCP/FCE, and if you do and you're not, then you should just get rid of your computer
Sep 13 2010 1:11AM
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miroz
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...skuse you.
Sep 13 2010 1:26AM
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eheath
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Magic bullet looks + magic bullet colorista > apple color
Sep 13 2010 2:51AM
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miroz
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Touche, but as far as I know they lack the integration that comes with Apple Color and FCS...true?
Sep 13 2010 10:04AM
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eheath
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They both run as plugins for FCP, you add the effect, press a button and it takes you to an external program, you edit the image then return to final cut and the whole clip is edited.
Sep 13 2010 3:59PM
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Yung_Gnarley
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iMovie FTW! haha
Sep 13 2010 4:03PM
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I_Am_Mod
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i'm a noob at this, but is there anyway to get fcp on a pc ?
or is it strictly mac?
Sep 13 2010 5:33PM
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miroz
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Mac only. Apple makes it.

And Heath, touche again. I've never used either so I can't really talk.
Sep 13 2010 5:56PM
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