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More proof the american legal system is fucking retarded

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*TURBONERD*
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http://news.travel.aol.com/2010/08/27/family-sues-seaworld-orlando-witnessed-whale-trainer-death/

Family Sues SeaWorld Orlando, Witnessed Whale Trainer Death
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Posted Aug 27th 2010 01:14 PM
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PrintA New Hampshire family who witnessed a SeaWorld Orlando trainer being drowned by a killer whale is suing the park.

Suzanne and Todd Connell of Somersworth, N.H. say their 10-year-old son was traumatized after witnessing the deadly attack.

Trainer Dawn Brancheau was dragged underwater by her hair by the 12,000-pound whale, known as Tilikum, before a live audience in February.

The suit comes just days after federal authorities fined the theme park $75,000 for work safety violations stemming from the incident.

The family is seeking more than $15,000 in damages, with the Connell's saying their son suffered from emotional distress.

The suit describes the scene as workers tried to rescue Brancheau from the grip of the whale's mouth.

"There seemed to be no plan as to what to do to save Dawn," the lawsuit says. "The SeaWorld employees were acting in an unorganized and chaotic manner."

SeaWorld Orlando declined comment.






your thoughts, ns?
Aug 28 2010 9:59AM
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I.Love.Beezy
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man i wish i got 15,000 for my nightmares.
Aug 28 2010 10:00AM
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Shadows
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have you ever witnessed anybody die? go try it...
Aug 28 2010 10:24AM
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icantskiiFILM
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yeah it sucks. but did you sue that persons family or whatever when he saw him/her die? im guessing u didnt
Aug 28 2010 10:27AM
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Chompo.
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Aug 28 2010 10:30AM
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Mooserz
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corporation>individual family.
Aug 28 2010 10:31AM
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Mike-O
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At the same time some fuck is suing a Korean game company for making him addicted to Lineage II. Many cases like these show that the US justice system is completely beyond redemption for now.
Aug 28 2010 10:35AM
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Static
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Seaworld profits from people viewing their animals, they are responsible for the spectacle.

Caged animals are actually pretty disgusting, it's fucked up you ignore that entire aspect of the situation, but even the validity of the suit was above your grasp so I guess it's par for your brain.
Aug 28 2010 10:38AM
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TheHamburglar
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they won't win. that whale, Tilikum, has killed three people now, one of em was some stoner who broke into the tank at midnight and tried to swim with it, he got a Darwin award, funny shit. there's a reason they're called killer whales..
Aug 28 2010 10:52AM
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thugaim
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lol @ America.
Aug 28 2010 11:41AM
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amo2le86
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i saw a dude die in a plane crash at an air show. i didnt sue the air show people. ppl dying is a part of life get used to it
Aug 28 2010 12:53PM
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stalefish.
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yeah but everyone experiences 'emotional distress' in all shapes and forms. its a part of life and character building. good parenting can help a 10 year old child cope through a situation like this...it is after all part of being parent. sure this is a little more tragic, it just means it requires more attention. suing is giving this kid the wrong impression on how to deal with situations like this.
Aug 28 2010 1:18PM
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jblaski
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I've been to multiple fatal car accidents. One where a guy was nearly decapitated after hitting his head on a light pole while on the back of a motorcycle.

I've done CPR on 20+ people, not all survived.

I've been the person who found a woman unresponsive and not breathing in a fire, and she died less than 1/2 hour later.

I've been to a house explosion, where a woman came running out of the building on fire, and died a day later.

I've been to a hanging and a gunshot suicides.


Anyone know a good lawyer??? I guess I can get rich out of this!!



PS. I do not support this lawsuit in any way.
Aug 28 2010 1:33PM
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CAPSLOCK*
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thanks for sharing your depressing life with us but i'm guessing you weren't 10 when all that shit hapenned.

If proof is made that the trauma actually affects the kid's quality of life, this is a legitimate lawsuit. Seaworld is responsible for the security of its customers : if someone trips on a poorly maintained feature of the park and gets hurt, they have a legitimate right to sue. Same thing for psychological trauma.

The system might be fucked up sometimes but this is not one of those times

Aug 28 2010 2:02PM
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corona
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you're a paramedic?
Aug 28 2010 2:06PM
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TheFlyingHonky
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this makes a lot more sense then some of the other fucked up lawsuits going on though
Aug 28 2010 2:09PM
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Arabian.
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Hold on while I sue my Grandma for making me run suntan lotion on her back.

eet vas very emoshunell.
Aug 28 2010 2:10PM
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Shreddysaurus
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Excuse me Seaworld?

"Yes"

Hi I'm calling on behalf of the government. You know that tragic death that happened not to long ago?

"well of course, we lost a dear friend"

Ya well we are gonna have to fine you $75,000 for that, people dieing is just unacceptable.
O ya and some family is suing because his death was so tragic.
Aug 28 2010 2:20PM
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7-3instacall
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win
Aug 28 2010 2:35PM
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r0dubs
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lol
Aug 28 2010 2:42PM
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thesheik
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you went to a hanging?
Aug 28 2010 3:01PM
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nickyp
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Kid needs to deal with it and move on


Better he saw the trainer mauled by a whale than shot or stabbed to death
Aug 28 2010 3:03PM
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Kangbang
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i live in canada. its not as fucked
Aug 28 2010 3:16PM
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wesley.
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to lolcum,
if you read the week, they have 2 stories every week about stupid laws, and court cases like that. the section is even called only in america or something. read it. its funny but disappointing
Aug 28 2010 3:19PM
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fsscott
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silly americans
Aug 28 2010 3:23PM
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theabortionator
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Yeah, but that's a bullshit reason to sue somebody. Parents are just money hunting. They should get fed to shamu.  These bullshit loss suits have gone on for way to long. Tripping in a pothole and getting 85k for a rolled ankle(happened in my town) shit like that.

These judges should be beat repeatedly till they stop being douche bags.


America is fucked
Aug 28 2010 3:28PM
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Mike-O
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You're serious? That's...unbelievable. Soon people will begin to sue if the bus/metro/train is late or if the red light was on for too long and they came to work five minutes late and shit like that.

Stereotypical stuff aside, I hope that US citizens' predictability and the judges' conformity doesn't spread around to other countries too much. For example, there was a case in Finland recently:

A woman was working in a food factory. She hit her head by herslef to a part of the machine she operated and she lost her ability to work in latter months (never explained to public how exactly). She won 75,000 euros in the court for mistreatment of safety instructions as she was not told that, yeah, working in factory you gotta WATCH WHERE YOU PUT YOUR FUCKING HEAD. The company appealed and supreme court decided, truthfully, that fuck you bitch, you ain't getting a dime.
Aug 28 2010 3:39PM
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jblaski
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Trolling?

SeaWorld has a responsibility to protect it's customers. If a tiger gets out of it's cage, and eats a couple tourists, then yes, SeaWorld has failed to protect people, was negligent, and should be sued. But this is a case of a freak accident, perhaps even an act of god. It's bad enough that one of their employees lost her life, but now this family is trying to suck extra money out of the place.


To others, yes, I am a firefighter.
And yes, I've been to a couple hangings.
Aug 28 2010 3:45PM
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garrettwiz
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sea tigers?
Aug 28 2010 3:50PM
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jblaski
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Well played.



Maybe it jogged over from Bush Gardens??
Aug 28 2010 4:03PM
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*TURBONERD*
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First off, I am in no way saying that caging animals is a valid thing. I don't go to theme parks like that because I don't like seeing them in captivity like that (not to say I don't enjoy roller coasters and rides).
Seaworld profits from people viewing the animals because people WANT to see them. They're there to see the 'wild and natural beauty' of a powerful, deadly predator. It's comparable to somebody suing whoever runs the X-Games because an athlete got hurt and 'scarred' their child. They want to be there, and should realize that animals are wild, and it is impossible to accurately predict what they do.
Aug 28 2010 4:06PM
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MACAQUE
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I'm betting that without zoos/profit from caged animals a lot of species would be endangered/extinct right now. Just sayin...
Aug 28 2010 4:10PM
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theabortionator
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Anyone who believes that this is a valid right to sue need to drive their car into the ocean.
Aug 28 2010 4:15PM
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CAPSLOCK*
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no troll

Like I said before, if it is proven that the trauma is real, the parents have every right to sue Sea World. There is a concept in the law called ''responsibility of the employer'' that states that the employer has to take responsibility for damages caused to others by its employees and it seems that the alleged trauma has been caused by the killed employee. I also read that that was apparently the third person killed by that whale, this is not gonna play in favor of Sea World in court as they will be easily discredited on their security measure quality.

And of course it is possible that the family's trying to fraud Sea World, in which case I hope they loose.

Aug 28 2010 4:17PM
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dylanb
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a chaotic manner, how would shit not be chaotic when a woman was ripped underwater by a 12,000 pound whale
Aug 28 2010 4:24PM
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Hermondo
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people are just sue-crazy and want to suck every dollar possible out of anything because they are lazy bitches
Aug 28 2010 4:29PM
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theabortionator
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I pay money to drive on toll roads. If somebody gets into a nasty car accident and there is blood all over, can I sue for trauma?

If I'm skiing at a mountain and I see somebody hit a tree, can I sue for trauma.

If I ignore the signs at the zoo and climb into the tiger cage and get my arm bitten off, can I sue?

The answer to all of those is probably yes. People sue for the most ridiculous shit these days and far too often win. Even the legitimate cases where they could sue, They are getting 100k instead of 10k, or 4.5 mil instead of 50k. The amount you can sue for is just outrageous. Judges need to get beat repeatedly until they grow some balls and stop putting up with this bullshit. this is why insurance rates are insanely high, you can't do anything fun anywhere anymore, and everyone has to be worried about getting sued.

Fuck this shit man.
Aug 28 2010 4:33PM
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shane.
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fuck lawsuits people are lazy as shit. go fucking get a job
Aug 28 2010 4:33PM
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Mike-O
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But in the end in US, is it about the judges? Isn't it the jury that makes decisions? Judges just have to abide by that decision? Enlighten me.
Aug 28 2010 4:37PM
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CAPSLOCK*
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Well you can certainly try but chances are you won't even make it to the court room because you need a valuable reason to sue.

All i'm saying is that this whole case will be determined by whether or not the trauma is real and the nature of the damages caused, the kid obviously doesn't work so i don't know how they would calculate the compensation ammount but you see what I mean.

Is it impossible that a 10 year old boy was traumatized by the sight of a woman being eaten to death by a killer wale? No

Is it impossible that this is a redneck family of lazy fucks trying to make a few bucks over a tragedy? No

Not trying to be a smart-ass here but I'm just stating the possibilities

Aug 28 2010 5:01PM
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Mike-O
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You mean valid? There goes your whole point.
Aug 28 2010 5:03PM
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k.thompson
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my thoughts? GO CANADA!
Aug 28 2010 5:06PM
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*TURBONERD*
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thanks for your contributions, +k
Aug 28 2010 5:06PM
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.Ben
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so by following that family's logic, the U.S should pay every family in Iraq $15,000 for every death their children have witnessed.
Aug 28 2010 5:11PM
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Bukkakeskitrip
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yes, this is fucking retarded. people trying to take advantage of the system makes me lose all sympathy for them. whats the bet the kid isnt even that distressed. and how the fuck can you put a price on the severity of his trauma? where did $15k come from? if they are entitled to anything after this, it should be free counselling sessions, or something along those lines, until the kid is 'better'.
Aug 28 2010 7:46PM
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theabortionator
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You're missing my point though, valid or not you aren't getting what I'm saying.

I believe he was traumatized. People have seen worse things though. Parents should have put on some parenting skills and covered his eyes or brought him out of there. Bad shit happens. Seaworld just lost one of their fucking employees in a tragic accident and now some family is suing because everyone sues these days.

They will probably end up getting a million bucks that they don't deserve. People just sue for eveything  these days. At least in the old days people just sucked it up, grew a pair, and lived on.

greedy ass redneck parents. Fuck em
Aug 28 2010 7:52PM
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geteducated
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its called being a responsible parent and covering your kids eyes and removing them from the area when bad shit is happening. they probably let the kid watch the whole thing and never once though about what could happen in the future to the kids mental situation. you don't have to tell the kid that the person was killed. the kids only 10 for fuck sakes. shitty parenting.
Aug 28 2010 9:33PM
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soulskier
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really, the workers were going about in an unorganized and chaotic way? go figure...
Aug 28 2010 10:50PM
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Oh_So_Hyphy
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dam

Aug 28 2010 10:59PM
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stalefish.
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haha yeah i thought the same thing...

and i 100% agree with theabortionator, he's completely right and should be a lawyer to fight against these people.
Aug 29 2010 11:51AM
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EC-Skier
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*ahhemm
lady who sued McDonalds because she burned her self with a cup of coffee and the cup didn't say "caution contents are very hot" I MEAN COME ON, SHE GOT A MILLION FROM THAT, ARE YOU SHITTING ME

wish i lived in Canada
Sep 1 2010 8:16PM
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