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SkierPT
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Hey everyone. I have a box and rail made from pvc. It took for ever for me to figure out how to attach the PVC pipes to the box. Would that cement glue work? Or just screws through the bottom? I used a cable through the middle of the pipe that wrapped around the box. Theres got to be an easier way.
Aug 6 2010 1:00PM
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debrickshaw
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screws and a drill are your friend, or a shit ton of super glue
Aug 6 2010 1:03PM
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KFRADtheLaxBro
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i used liquid nails and it worked for a while but eventually the pvc came off. then i just screwed the pvcs in on the ends in and its working fine.
Aug 6 2010 1:03PM
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Billek
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Drill holes every 2 feet, angle the holes towards eachother (not necessary, but it helps protect them), and put a screw through the holes down into the wood.
Aug 6 2010 1:10PM
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majora
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i drilled through the bottom, held up till the end of the season, but then you gotta do it again.
Aug 6 2010 1:16PM
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SkierPT
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I'm thinking about liquid nails and screws through the bottom. Whats a good length for a homemade box? Ours is 8 feet and wayyyy to short.
Aug 6 2010 1:19PM
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skihillraod
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you drill holes through the PVC into the wood at an angle, so you don't slid over the holes.  Picture a 75 degree angle, still enough to get the bit on the screw, but so the hole is "sideways" on the pvc, so you don't slide over it.  They also make flexi-angled bits/drivers and extensions. 
Aug 6 2010 1:20PM
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Lemuel
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Just drill a hole in the top of the pvc then through the bottom into the wood. The holes make no difference at all, and you get the strongest bond between the pvc and wood. Screwing through the bottom is not secure at all, and making the holes in the side so you don't slide over them is just making it harder to put together. You won't catch your edges at all.
Aug 6 2010 1:30PM
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TheHuggyBear
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ok drill all of your holes through one side of the pvc pipe...for example

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now have a friend or somebody hold the pvc onto the piece of wood with the holes facing up....

(holes on top)
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Now drill through your preexisting holes and put a screw through the bottom of the pvc and the into the wood. Trust me the holes on top will not effect your skiing at all, This way gives you secure pvc and it glides like a champ and has been a good rail for 2 years now.
Aug 6 2010 1:39PM
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TOK
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that was sick, this.
Aug 6 2010 1:42PM
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Otter.
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nut and bolt.
Aug 6 2010 4:04PM
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SKIWAGEN
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I got these self tapping screws at homedepot. I drilled a small pilot hole, then drilled them up through the bottom and into the pvc.
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xn8/R-100175619/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053
 Something like that. Good Luck.
Aug 6 2010 6:20PM
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SkierPT
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haha thanks and nice pic bro
Aug 6 2010 9:03PM
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Blake.P
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Just drill a pilot hole through the PVC and the wood. Then use a wider drill but only on the top if the PVC to make it so the screws sink
Aug 6 2010 10:07PM
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Lemuel
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Depending on how thick the wood is and if there are going to be legs, using nuts and bolts may be harder to do. For my rail, I used a bunch of scrap wood and it was like 3 2x4's nailed together so it is like 4 inches thick which isn't really easy to use bolts on.
Aug 7 2010 8:57AM
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SweatyBallShack
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Screw pvc, a plastic pipe is too hard to figure out how to get onto wood. just use aluminum.
Aug 7 2010 10:02AM
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RyCo19
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Toggle bolts are the best. You just have to drill out all the holes beforehand, and make sure they match up from the wood to the pipe. I built mine 3 years ago, and the legs finally broke recently before the pipe ever did.

They look like this:
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Basically that thing on the end compresses since it is spring loaded (think like an umbrella), then you pass it through the holes in the wood and the pipe, and one the bottom of the spring loaded piece makes it through the last hole, it expands. From there, you can screw it down and it will essentially clamp the inside of the pipe.

Seriously, this method is sick. Only downside is it is pricier that just nuts and bolts, but probably comparable to glues, etc.
Aug 7 2010 11:17AM
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Emma_Watson
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Drill through the bottom... not to hard..
Aug 7 2010 11:34AM
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SweatyBallShack
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Dould that type of bolt reinforce the pipe at all? Or does it just hold on really well?
Aug 7 2010 1:04PM
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TheUngroomed
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i just went through the top then wrapped alot electrical tape around the nails so it doesnt catch. havent had a problem
Aug 7 2010 3:37PM
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SweatyBallShack
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I actually went PVC for my box and I have an old rail (I think its galvanized steel but its hard to tell) that I used to use when I inlined.

Who is it roller warehouse that makes custom rails? One of the inline websites.

Aug 7 2010 3:45PM
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TWoods
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don't worry about mini little holes through the top of your rail, you're never going to feel them. Just drill a small hole that you can fit a drill bit/screw through.
Aug 7 2010 5:12PM
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RyCo19
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Yeah the toggle bolts seem to work pretty well, and while they don't "reenforce" the pipe, they secure it REALLY well. I use them in the summer for skating/summer skiing and they hold up year-round.

And the inline site that builds custom rails for a relatively decent price is Aggressive Mall.

Linky:
Aug 7 2010 5:49PM
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SweatyBallShack
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They look pretty decent. A long one would probably be way pricy though
Aug 7 2010 6:55PM
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