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Bill maher needs to grow up
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So if you havent seen bill mahers documentary called "religulous" basically bill maher makes fun fo peoples religions for an hour and a half straight.
I feel like Bill Maher is kind of mean to be so intolerant of peoples beliefs and make so much fun of them.
Personally I dont really believe in anything, but that doesnt mean im going to try and humiliate people for believing what they want to believe in.
I feel like bill maher wants to be the guy who tells children there is no santa clause. But if it doesnt harm anybody, i dont see what the problem is letting people believe santa clause is real for their whole lives. Like seriously who gives a shit.
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sorry to say that like i meant all muslims.. i just meant the ones who did that, I know there are good muslims
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wow, I stand corrected. I am impressed you religion recently "allows" you to believe in scientific fact that was discovered 100 plus years ago. So willing to change, not rigid at all.
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Least intelligent statement I've ever read on NS for soo many reasons
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I actually agree with you...
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Then list the fucking reasons.
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My major was 25% Muslim, they are as crazy as they come. They are alright if you are around just 1, but in a group they all tattle on each other for doing anything. They all openly supported whipping women for refusing to not be oppressed and were extremely judgmental among other things.
They were nice at heart, but their religion controlled their lives. Do you know any Muslims?
And Gato what am I saying specifically that is so moronic?
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It was saying that it was allowed, just that they support people who do. As already stated, the episcopal church has a very very loose set of beliefs.
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I should try to open my mind?
You view on religion is so skewed. You are congradulating a religious group for changing and letting blacks in? If that was any other social group they would not still exist. Yet you are considering them progressive because they allowed blacks in? haha.
And Scientology is just as crazy as the rest of them, I guess I shouldn't say an old book, but a book with no proof or basis in reality would be more apt.
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If having a loose set of beliefs is good why not free yourself of all beliefs?
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Because I still want to worship together with others, have coffee after, talk to people, celebrate thanksgiving with my friends at my church. Yeah, I could free myself from all beliefs, but I enjoy being apart of my congregation, there are some awesome people there. I just want to get together and worship with others.
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I really want to know why you agree with him though, I am always trying to progress my thinking and my views, so why is that statement so false?
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Yeah, and thats why I'm friends with lots of people. Just because I like to be part of my congregation doesn't mean that I'm not apart of the rest of the world though. I'm also involved on my swim team. I volunteer at the animal shelter.
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while i dont support organized religion, the WBC is not a good example of religion. they are a hate group in their own category. however, they are an example of what can happen when religion is taken to extremes
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look out this kid is waaaaay beyond our level of thinking don't mess with his wealth of knowledge especially is you are 14-20 and a suburban white, everyone knows they are all idiots
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dude, a LOT of people do hilarious shit just to get in heaven. like my grandpa. he has never been a great person or a good father to my mother. but now he is old, retired and "fears" he could be the odd man out in heaven. spends his money buying masses for all the dead relatives and last week, at the funeral of his sons wife, he bought a crest that was one of the biggest ones.
all of this is kinda usual here. people are catholic all their lifes, arent too hardcore until they "fear" that they might be left out in heaven and start to spend more time praying than playing with their grandchildren.
there is nothing bad in it, he (they) is (are) not hurting anybody and its not huge amounts of money, but i just think its hypocritical and tasche is right when he said that people should help people for the sake of doing it and not for a price in the afterlife.
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replace coffee with beer and you can have the same in a football/soccer/random sports club.
i was to two burials in the last year that were "family" and religion has absolutely its point. here it is usual that the whole village comes together at the home of the dead person (the coffin is normally in the living room) and people pray two times a day until the burial.
but if there was no religion, they could still come over, wish the family all the best, rest a second, remember what they knew about the passed away person, when they met them, etc and leave silently. same "social" effect but without stupid prayings that noone understands.
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and for the record, even if i mentioned them one or two times, i dont need the "terrorists of 9/11 for my" statement or any other religion. i am straight talking about christians and in most cases about catholics. i know my stuff.
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Except for you are trying to put everyone in the same category, and dont put all the problems you've had with religion onto every religion. Catholocism does not equal every christian religion. and i am not arguing for catholics, I'm arguing that you stop saying every religion is wrong because one specific religion is wrong. and why do i have to get together with other people and drink beer? why cant i get together to specifically worship a god that we have some similarities in believing in, being part of a club is different then being part of a congregation for me, I love my congregation and its nice to worship together. and then that sucks for you grandfather who is afraid he wont get into heaven, but I feel he will, even if he was a vile person that killed millions, I feel he would get into heaven.
Why are you trying to attack my personal beliefs when I am not attacking yours? I just said what I think, you dont have to say I'm wrong. I could be wrong, I never said I couldn't, we could all be wrong and scientology might be right, who knows? I am just practicing my religion and what I have faith in to be correct. Dont put one religion with another, dont put catholics and episcopals together, there are really only one thing that (most) people have in common with these religions, we believe in jesus. and i said most because not all people believe the exact same thing, even if they go by the same name.
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if you accept the fact that you could be wrong, i could be wrong, etc., then i might have misunderstood you.
it was never my intend to attack you, and if i did i am sorry.
ok, speaking of catholics in my area, its kinda weird. i mean, if you take a guy from india or so and put him to this "scene" (coffin, 200 people in the living room, outside of the house praying a rosary in german), he would probably think "the fuck dude, THE fuck, i mean seriously, the fuck".
in the end, the only thing i really cant stand about religion is the discrimination of atheists.
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Yeah man, thats just not cool, I excpect people to be tolerant of my ideas and of others ideas, when people bash on athiests it annoys me.
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i mean, you know, sometimes "we" (although i am more anti-christian/catholic) are screaming too loud and are in general not that nice, but most of the time it comes back the same way.
in german (translated by me), there is this saying: "how you scream into the woods its how it clangs back".
so, really, both parts should step back and get the respect-level to 50/50. i want to see a US-president say publicy: "i am atheist" within the next 10 years, would be awesome.
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what i want to know is, why do people need to believe in a higher, all powerful being to feel like they can live a good life. why can't people just believe in themselves, and think they can live a wholesome life without religion? Im agnostic, and i feel like Im a very moral, wholesome, loving person.
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I wouldn't consider him a comedian. Just a douche. I saw him on Leno last year or something and the guy from Man vs. Food was on after him and before he came on Mr. Bill Maher said whats wrong with american society is and example of your next guest Jay. I thought... What a douche. I love Man Vs. Food. Makes me hungry every time.
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haha you are mad because he said that overeating is bad. Wow.
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"Religion is what keeps the poor people from killing the rich people. " Napoleon
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"Anyone notice that the behavior for being super religious and out of your mind are so close together that we can't tell the difference?"
-Dr. Gregory House
"Think someone could spend half their life in a slam with a horse bit in their mouth and not believe? Think he could start out in some liquor store trash bin with an umbilical cord wrapped around his neck and not believe? Got it all wrong, holy man. I absolutely believe in God... And I absolutely hate the fucker."
-Richard B. Riddick
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See what you don't realize is that you are a heathen sinner who is going to burn in hell for all eternity.
Nothing like scaring a person into believing in a higher power.
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This comment really pissed me off.
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i totally agree with Bill Maher on this one. any society that makes a spectacle out of devouring food is skewed. i hate to use the "starving kids in africa" argument, but american society is not the best it can be.
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Ya the whole Randy Weaver thing was pretty insane, if it had been a black panther Bill would have had a different tune.
But the guy was fucking crazy and brought it on himself. (Weaver)
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Just a few factual misrepresentations.
Humans are not compassionate as a species, We engage in organized warfare. We unleash unbelievable levels of destruction on our surroundings. The gibrone you know who works at a food bank doesn't change this.
Whether or not you happen to belong to a particularly grievous religion (Catholicism, Evangelical Churches, Fundamentalist Islam) or just a stupid one (Scientology, Unitarian, Protestant, Judaism) the particulars of your particular practice are irrelevant.
-The problem with religion is that it trades an archaic, illogical explanation of man and the world for...reality.
My biggest problem though...
Religion, even moderate religion, represents an impediment to the development of a persons ability to reason beyond convention. Just like blindly accepted law, widely accepted religious doctrines of right and wrong stand in the way of new, progressive ideas being put into play. (Roe v Wade etc)
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The only thing I have to say is that no one ever needs to grow up.
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In a world where absolute truth exists, but cannot be known, one must live by reason and faith.
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True reason and true faith are mutually exclusive. Please do not convoluted them both and act as if they are in concurrence with each other.
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Bill Maher is a fucking TOOL, I've always thought so, although I absolutely LOVE how he slams the Muslims with impudence...that's about the only time I agree with this moron.
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Organized religion has gotten way off point from what was the basic principle of "be nice to each other".
It's full of dumb shit that makes no sense and offers me nothing of value. If I'm catholic I can't fuck a chick with a condom and I have to pray to some dead saint if I sin.
And most of the conflicts around the world are deeply rooted in religion, why can't we all wake up and smell the bullshit.
I feel like religion is holding us back as a species.
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Laughing about a 13 year old kid getting shot is pretty sick though. And they sniped the mom in the head while she was holding a baby in the house with her kids.
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i completely disagree. any degree of faith takes reason. faith is not blindly believing in something without knowing anything about said believe. You have to constantly work and reason to keep faith strong, you could say faith without works is dead, faith without reason is blind.
I have faith in myself, my friends, and my family. nothing religious about about it.
if you study life and its origins you will find that all we think and feel is in concurrence with each other.
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Actually that's the very definition of "faith".
- "belief
that
is
not
based
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proof" - right from the dictionary.
and the "work and reason" you refer to are generally referred to as "self-delusion"
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now read my first post on this page. we must have faith because we can't even prove HOW gravity works. we cannot prove that god does or does not exist, both beliefs take faith.
Please explain to me how work and reason is referred to as self delusion.
I will put this out there, i do not think that faith is a religion based belief, I, in fact, view faith as an instinct.
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but you dont like how he slams the christians and jews? what kind of racist bullshit is that?
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first of all, Islam is not a race, so you are wrong there. Secondly, all religions are an amalgamation of different races. Christianity has an ENORMOUS black following, as does Islam. But to answer your question, no, I don't give a shit what he says about the Christians and Jews because it is all funny, I just like his incredibly (by his standards) level-headed opinions on Muslims because nobody touches the Islamic faith. Everyone is too scared and too PC to say anything degrading or true about radical Islam.
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i also love getting quoted out of context.
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ok, maybe "theist" would be a better term... but saying you support only his criticism of islam is still pretty stupid. but i will agree with you that no one attacks islam. everyone just sees it as politically incorrect so you dont see a lot of head-on opposition.
anyway, im done replying cause i dont wanna get caught up in this already epic shitstorm
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I have no problem admitting that I look upon Christianity and Judaism more favorably than Islam, but I don't have any religious inclinations of my own, I'm not sure I even believe in a god. Each religion has claimed the lives of millions of people in the past, but in this day and age, the majority of violence, if not all of the violence, perpetuated in the name of a deity has been committed by radical Muslims...can't argue with the facts.
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You must know youre full of shit right?
Obviously there is a difference between believing that gravity exists and believing in a god.
We have evidence that there is gravity, and a theory that explains it (theory of relativity). We can make predictions on where the plantets will be in a thousand years and be spot on. We know a lot about gravity and how it works.
To compare belief in the theory of gravity to belief in a supernatural, all-powerful being for which there is absolutely no evidence for is completely ridiculous.
Faith is simply belief without evidence.
Sure we have faith in some things... for example, if i ask you what the time is, im not going to assume you are lying and rip the watch off your hand and make sure it works etc. etc. I will just take it on good faith. However, when it comes to understand how the universe works and making important decisions, faith is not something that should ever be called upon.
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