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I finally took the time to watch that video and regret doing so. I can't believe there are people out there who listen to this stuff. Honestly theres not a big difference between the original and the snl skit.
in their defense, theyre pretty accurate with what theyre saying. people love saying "oh science has all this shit figured out" and think we know so much but thats not really true. all science really is is concepts and really good ways of thinking about and using the crazy shit all around us. any scientist worth his salt will tell you that when we "explain" how and why things work the way they do, it's only a good-enough working concept of how things behave + induction. you and i (and scientists, for that matter) dont truly know exactly how and why magnets do what they do
holy fucking shit i hope that's sarcastic. if not, you're obviously one of the people who don't understand words like "theory". science really DOES "have all this shit figured out". i'm not taking this argument further, not worth the time, but i'd like to thank ICP for a few good laughs. i wonder what they're fans thought about the song.
Obviously you don't know what science is. Science can never prove anything, that is like the first rule of it. Science used to think the world was flat, there is a huge probability that the way we think things work is completely wrong and in 1,000 year people will be like WTF they really believed all that shit about atoms?
can someone else chime in on this? i said i wouldn't respond and i really don't want to give in because of a couple of mind numbingly misinformed posts.
actually, what you might refer to is already old shit.
scientists work hard to make our understanding better. but most people arent enough into physics to understand everything. newtons theories (gravity, mass, etc) are proven wrong, but they are easy to calculate and in most cases very close to the actual result, so they are still teached in schools.
relativity and quantummechanics were huge steps towards a unified, perfect theory of the world. both have their flaws in very small (rel.) or in very big (qu.m.) space unit. but its possible that the quantum gravity theory (currently in work) will explain everything from the start of the universe to the end.
although our universe might be some random ass thing inside of someething else we would need to explain, we understand a lot of things right now and every single "proven/accepted" scientific theory is 10x more logic as every religion/mythical book.
i cannot stand juggalos. i really just dont get it.
Bellingham (the city i live in) has a shit-ton of juggalos that all hangout out by the bus station and i always see them on the bus on my way to class and all over the bus depot. ugh.
actually they have a pretty good grasp on how magnets work... along with a lot of the "miracles". on your reasoning, then no one knows how NOTHING works! that's like asking, how does ink stay on a page of paper?! or how does wireless internet work?! there's only so much you can answer to a retard that keeps asking, why?
i understand what youre saying, and yeah, a lot of things we have a good enough understanding to use it (very well). BUT these are merely (excellent) DESCRIPTIONS of what we see happening. using the example of magnets, we have observed their behavior enough to project what will happen when we do certain things. but we dont know how or what the magnetic field is, we dont even know if it "exists" as we know existence (is there actually a field of some sort there, which we cannot see or touch or observe without putting something into it?) we dont know how the (apparent) "action at a distance" works.
im not trying to discount science.. only a few out there philosophers of science would try to argue that way. what im saying is that even the world's best scientists will willingly acknowledge that everything we "know" about the physical world around us are falsifiable theories and descriptions, and underneath our theories and understandings there are indeed "miracles" happening in everything. id be more than happy to give a ton more examples.. we sort of grow up thinking that everything is figured out but thats really not the case
^you are right. its like gravity. newtons formulas are not bad and very close to actual observations. but they are tough to calculate, so relativity isnt used very often.
as you said, "forces", "fields", etc are just words we use to describe and standardize observations and the more we know, the more we leave these concepts.
although we are pretty close to at least explain "everything" within our universe. relativity of quantum theory could very well be the end of that uncertainty.
but skiierman, take it easy, seems like your motto.