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Most secure way to communicate with cellphone?

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I.killCommies
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so obviously the worst way is by talking on the cellphone.

next worst i think is texting, its harder but pigs can scoop that up pretty easily too i believe.

i think emails are pretty safe, especially cause you can make as many email addresses as you want,

is their any impervious route for communication? I heard blackbwer toerry messenger was incripted or something that made it imposible to intercept or something.

anybody know the answer to this?
May 17 2010 1:13PM
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neutralzombie
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emails aren't safe. and what the fuck is this thread?
May 17 2010 1:14PM
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I.killCommies
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*blackberry
May 17 2010 1:15PM
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1337
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and why do you want to know this?
May 17 2010 1:16PM
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IceCreamer
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Hez a spi
May 17 2010 1:39PM
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Big_Spence
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facebook messenger is hella legit.
i suggest that's how you conduct all your drug deals.
May 17 2010 1:42PM
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Proze
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No matter what your email is itll trace back to your phone and you will be identified. I assume this is about drugs and if so pm me and ill show you the code we use to keep it legit.
May 17 2010 2:52PM
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T-Holt
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Careful man, once I tried buying liek a whole gram of weed from my friend over text and nothing fucking happened.
May 17 2010 2:55PM
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theline
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This is the safest way.

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May 17 2010 2:57PM
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Thenowhereman42
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I'm fairly sure that my email could not be linked with my phone number.

Anyway, they way they filter through your text messages is by looking for keywords. So just be vague, say like "hey, I got the stuff" or something. And be sure not to say "This shit sure is da bomb!" Because then they will think you are a terrorist and come kick your door in.

Thing is though, you would know if someone was keeping tabs on you. I'm sure whatever it is you are doing is tiny and insignificant to them. Unless you are growing over 100 weed plants or selling fairly large amounts of heroin or something they don't give a fuck. I have only known a couple people in my life that have been big enough to get on their radar, and all of those people were very aware of the fact they were being watched.
May 17 2010 2:59PM
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Proze
Posts: 1094 - Karma: 7
Dont underestimate man I know a kid who got popped because he was saying elbows for pounds and the police knew what he meant, they set up a stake out and busted him right after a delivery
May 17 2010 2:59PM
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skithesprings
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you're a fucking idiot.

"the pigs" aren't going to snoop on your phone for buying a g of weed.
May 17 2010 3:02PM
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Thenowhereman42
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What a dummy lol everyone knows that talking in code doesn't do anything.

Uhhhh.....yo man, I got that basket of flowers you've been wanting.

Should have at least substituted it for weeks or something. I want 5 pounds = Hey, I'll see you in 5 weeks. Something believable.



May 17 2010 3:03PM
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Proze
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Yea id agree with you in regards to them not caring about anything small but my really good friends dad is a judge in syracuse and he showed us a list of all the suspected drug dealers in the city and a few of the kids that I used to interact with were on it, they might have been moving 5 - 10 lbs a week so thats not huge. Its scary how much the govt knows about us. And im absolutely positive if you were to send an email from your phone no matter the email adress it could be traced back to you.
May 17 2010 3:09PM
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Thenowhereman42
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Well 5-10lb's a week isn't scarface or anything, but its not exactly dubs and dimes either, or even zips. If you are moving pounds then yeah thats enough to get noticed.

And yeah I've never sent an email with my phone thats what computers are for.
May 17 2010 3:14PM
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soulskier
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pick up a pay as you go phone with cash
May 17 2010 3:19PM
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.travis.
Posts: 1737 - Karma: 46
You could always go back in time to 1995 and use pagers and pay phones.
May 17 2010 3:23PM
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jfp
Posts: 684 - Karma: 318
hushmail.com is encrypted emails, i think i've heard growers use it, also disposable cell phones, like trakphone etc.
May 17 2010 3:24PM
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ECfreeski3
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while this may certainly be the case, it's not always true.
it is true that the cops arent interested in whether or not youre selling some bags, and generally will only go after them to get at bigger dealers. BUT the thing that youre not taking into account is that the cops, to be blunt, are pretty fucking out of the loop and when they get a hit they might go after it hardcore. example: one of my good friends has been selling for a while, but not much at all, maybe a couple zips a week, and we always gave her shit because she was always being like, oh dont text me explicit things etc, they could be watching my phone blah blah blah. well last week a search warrant got executed on her house, and they charged her with everything they could.

moral of the story: yes, cops couldnt care less about most of the people that consider themselves "dealers," but that doesnt mean it cant happen, because small things (and/or someone flipping on you) can lead them to think youre a major player. so dont be that douche who thinks the dea is gonna kick down his door cause he sold his friend a 20, but be careful! crazier stuff has happened

May 17 2010 3:24PM
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CarRamRod
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1.Call person and set up a place to meet
2.Meet person at said place
3.?????
4.Profit
May 17 2010 3:25PM
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jfp
Posts: 684 - Karma: 318
http://www.hushmail.com/    best bet, they even have hushmail mobile for your smart phone.
May 17 2010 3:28PM
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Tyran
Posts: 314 - Karma: 15
no numbers. period. these guys arent idiots. they have heard "5 boxes of canolis" or whatever before.
use a pay as you go phone. text for meets.
May 17 2010 4:14PM
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doobiebrotha
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I use skype cause that's what my meth hook up uses...
May 17 2010 4:17PM
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Tyran
Posts: 314 - Karma: 15
that being said, they prolly arent as interested in you as think. you cant be too careful, but I doubt they are bugging your shit unless you are big time.

if you were big time, you wouldnt be asking us
May 17 2010 4:19PM
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T-Holt
Posts: 5020 - Karma: 639
what if you're actually ordering 5 boxes of cannolis? WHAT THEN?????
Imagine you're at an Italian bakery picking up your delicious Italian dessert, when BAM cops show up guns ready and everything.

I'm gonna start texting people asking for large quantities of baked goods and flowers. "Bro, I got this dank grass hookup. These guys sell the best fuckin sod ever, my lawn is so fuckin legit now."
May 17 2010 4:23PM
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bermbuster49
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hahahah +K
May 17 2010 4:28PM
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*steeze_is_good
Posts: 2885 - Karma: 718
Hahahha +k
May 17 2010 4:30PM
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geteducated
Posts: 6410 - Karma: 86
uh watch the wire and take notes.

buy a disposable burner.

talk in code.

when talking about cocaine call it a ski trip.

have the customer ask if the powder is soft or sun baked to differentiate between soft cocaine and cook crack rock.

number of adult lift tickets represent one gram and a child lift ticket represents a half gram.

there. thats how its done.
May 17 2010 4:32PM
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1337
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unless they have reason to start screening your calls/messages, i'm pretty sure they don't scan at every single phone and every single message that is sent.
May 17 2010 4:36PM
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californiagrown
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ding ding ding

oh and by the way people who get raided, get raided because someone was caught and snitched.  It is extrmely hard for the govt to actually compile enough evidence to convince a judge a search warrant is...well...warranted haha.  on top of that, if the govt does get enough evidence on its own to execute a search warrant, a lot of time they will only seize the drugs, paraphanalia, property, and anything else they dream up is connected with the illegal activities because actually trying a criminal case with that much evidence is extremely expensive and not really worth it.  (google: operation southern sweep.  only one person was even charged with anything) 

So yeah, a text or phonecall might put you on radar, it might even add to some evidence, but you WILL NOT be busted becuase of it.  and like people already said, if your big enough to be watched, you will know.  feds aren't that discreet no matter what you think.  no one actually pulls that undercover bullshit, if that happens to you, you are extremely unlucky and their is really nothing you can do about it.


moral of the story:  don't sell to people you don't trust, buy a pay as you go phone in cash (activate it from your local library), don't be afraid to bust some skulls or cut people off if they are being jokers.
May 17 2010 4:43PM
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NomenClature
Posts: 4348 - Karma: 83
Wow, there is some really bad advice in here.

Hushmail is shit.

pre paid phones are by no means foolproof (or even close)

Email from phones is absurdly traceable, along with standard email.

Talking in code doesn't work.  Unless you can carry on a perfectly normal conversation while imparting a hidden meaning, your just flirting with a "Sophisticated Means" enhancement for no reason.

They dont "scan texts for key words" either.  That's ultra-high end intelligence capability, and well beyond the budgetary constraints of state and local cops.  The technology is really only used when the subject changes phones too frequently to be tracked, and then it is focused on a specific area.


But none of this matters.

The bottom line is that you, like every other clueless criminal, are going to to get set up for a quick rip that never involved phones in the first place.
May 17 2010 4:55PM
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MADDECENT
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A tin can string phone of course
May 17 2010 4:57PM
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jibbinc.
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threads for the info, anyone know anything to due with Candian laws?
May 17 2010 4:58PM
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SOLID7
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Understood agent alpha beta?
May 17 2010 5:03PM
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jfp
Posts: 684 - Karma: 318
hushmail is shit?? reason for that? i don't use it but hear its great!
May 17 2010 5:36PM
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yuck
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call and say this if you need to sell: (meet him at a laundromat)


hey man, want to meet me at the laundromat? I have lots of GRASS stains in my paints. I bet I can get HALF of them out for $60 BUCKS.


done. you may need to adjust the price / amount for your region / intended sale.
May 17 2010 5:46PM
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connory998
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it would take someone with training in hacking encryption seconds to get through any of those free encrypted email services
May 17 2010 5:48PM
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iLLbiLLy
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texting is way more sketchy than talking. The cops have to be listining in on you during your conversation. When you text your creating a digital trail of evidence against you. same with emails. if your worried about cops get a go phone to do business on.
May 17 2010 5:51PM
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Balto
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May 17 2010 5:53PM
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steezeeepolizeee
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Im gunna start texting really sketchy things to friends and see how many cops i can get following me, could be a pretty fun game. Anyone else want in?
May 17 2010 6:03PM
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Phormat
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CryptoSMS is a Java App you can get for your phone, it randomly generates keys, you give your buyers the key, and only they can read the text from there phone, not the service provider, and especially not your everyday law enforcement. There are lots of encryption techniques you can implement, but it really is only worth your time if you are moving a lot of weight.
May 17 2010 6:07PM
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Phormat
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*their
May 17 2010 6:07PM
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theabortionator
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Unregistered tracfones.  But as far as the one kid, is you're slanging ps on the regular, it's not that hard for somebody that got busted to rat you out or attention to be drawn for some other reason and then they look through your shit.

Soon we won't have any fucking privacy anywhere. Those stupid fucking tv shows everyone watches that show cops abusing peoples rights, using all kinds of shit to find the bad guys. Makes it all look good. Because they used the cellphone signal to find the rapist. Or searched the house without a warrant to find the serial killer. Shit like that. It makes an impression on people if they watch it 24/7
May 17 2010 6:27PM
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1337
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May 17 2010 6:28PM
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jeaaaa
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perhaps OP is a cop looking to find out how teenage drug dealers work...
May 17 2010 6:31PM
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theabortionator
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Till you start smoking or being a hookup for nugs or other party favors, and the cops are on your shit
May 17 2010 6:31PM
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I.killCommies
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yeah im like not doing anything i was just curious
May 17 2010 6:43PM
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YooperSteeze
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My threads due to curiosity.
May 17 2010 6:46PM
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I.killCommies
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dont worry im not a cop
May 17 2010 6:54PM
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I.killCommies
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yeah i heard about some i phone apps like this, +karma
May 17 2010 6:56PM
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Scudzie
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Just move to BC, everything is legal here...Even the cops get in on the selling.
May 17 2010 7:00PM
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