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Park skiers/riders out of the park

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Shpadoinkle
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Why can't a lot of them actually ski/ride on other parts of the mountain? I was skiing the Outback at Keystone yesterday and I saw a few guys with tall tees and over-sized gear who were skiing very defensively (hunched over, hands way forward, backseat, etc.). I try to ski park every once in a while, but personally I love working on my form in bumps, off-piste, groomers, carving, etc. You would think that you would learn to ski moderately decent on groomers, and then ski park.
Apr 4 2010 10:13PM
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dmc12380
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because scaring yourself and learning new things in the park is more fun than working on your form
Apr 4 2010 10:15PM
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tedmgee
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for me i hate bumps and moguls. groomers are alright becuase it takes me to the park.

Apr 4 2010 10:17PM
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Rainbow*Stylin
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i agree with you, i think its mainly because people try to get into park skiing first without getting to know their sport, hence when they get on the real mountain without metal shit to hit and perfectly shaped jumps they can't have fun... think you should have to be able to ski if you ride park, i know a lot of people don't agree with me or have access to real mountains but whatev... if i owned a mountain i would have the good park after a gnarly run with some cliffs so it would eliminate that shit
Apr 4 2010 10:18PM
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Shpadoinkle
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What about scaring yourself in the trees or zip-lining a mogul run? So much fun.
Apr 4 2010 10:20PM
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Shpadoinkle
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Exactly. That's the ultimate skier. Jon Olsson is a VERY good example.
Apr 4 2010 10:21PM
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IanAvery-Leaf
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id take slushy zipper lines over a shitty park any day
Apr 4 2010 10:22PM
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Pahina22
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moguls are the most unfun thing about skiing. I really dont see how people actually enjoy them...to each his own i guess
Apr 4 2010 10:22PM
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TheHuggyBear
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I ride park..i mean im not great, i can throw like grab 3's off 20 footers and ride every rail and box, but thats because i dont camp there. riding the trees and pow is soooo much more fun. I spent 5 times as much time on the outback side throwin grabs and small spins on the pow bumps and going through the trees than i did in A51. thats why i liked loveland better than keystone..not as many people and the trees and backside are so fuckin awesome.
Apr 4 2010 10:23PM
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Shpadoinkle
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Well I finally found out how to ski them this season. I spent about 5 hours one day just in the bumps. My knees ached, but still love them. I don't know why I ski anyway. I have horrible knees.
Apr 4 2010 10:25PM
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Shpadoinkle
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I hope next season gets better because I'm going to sell my park skis and buy some pow skis.
Apr 4 2010 10:26PM
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jason...
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Because moguls aren't fun. Give me anything but moguls and I will have fun, but I just fucking hate legitimate mogul runs, they're boring.
Apr 4 2010 10:27PM
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no_steeze
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i have yet to figure this out also, learn to ski, then go in the park

there were kids at the mt snow gladiator bump challenge who literally could not ski bumps, they looked like flailing rental mentals, then when they hit the kicker they would huck backflips...you know there's something wrong with that
Apr 4 2010 10:29PM
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Shpadoinkle
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Well I'm not just talking about moguls.
Apr 4 2010 10:29PM
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skiminnesota
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newschoolers is gonna hate you for this. lol


but i agree.


ive got no problem admitting i cant ski park for shit. but i know how a ski works, and how to make it do anything i want on the side of a hill. aka i actually know how to ski
Apr 4 2010 10:31PM
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BWalmer
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I agree, I really dislike moguls, they hurt me knees more than knuckling a 50' jump...I'll play around in them from time to time, but actually like bumping my way down the mountain, it just hurts too much. I like cruising around on groomers every now and then, but my home mountain has a total of 15 trails, there's only so many times I can go down them. But when I go up to mount snow, I try to get out of Carinthia for a few runs and play around on the rest of the mountain.
Apr 4 2010 10:32PM
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TheHuggyBear
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1. moguls
2. rails
3. kickers
4. big mountain
5. trees
6. everything else

ALL FUN AS HELLLLLLLL

No hate if your just a park rider, but it really is a blast doing them all. the adrenaline rush you get after hitting a 20 foot cliff and riding away...WITH STEEZE
Apr 4 2010 10:33PM
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VCharette
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You bitch about them not having a good technique outside of the park, therefore they should be allowed to make fun of you if you eat shit in the park, right?

Apr 4 2010 10:34PM
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no_steeze
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same here, i suck at park, but i am good at other stuff, and that's what i love to do, so i'm gonna keep skiing
Apr 4 2010 10:34PM
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Shpadoinkle
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That's the ultimate afterbang. Birrion at Key has the ultimate afterbang everywhere. LOL.
Apr 4 2010 10:35PM
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Malcolm
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maybe they got hurt in the park and just went to do some trails for fun and skied defensively because they were in pain
Apr 4 2010 10:37PM
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MADDECENT
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I got really good at everything, started skiing park, and have now given up on everything else. If I try, I can ski it all well, but they might just not have been trying
Apr 4 2010 10:38PM
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Shpadoinkle
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All three of them?
Apr 4 2010 10:38PM
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Ryan*
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This.

I didn't start park until last year, but I've been skiing since I was 2 (1, really), so I got good at everything else before park. I'm still only okay at park, but progressing rather quickly, if I may say so myself. Honestly, when the park is throwing you on your ass and you just really need a break, it's awesome to be able to duck into the trees or go ski some moguls (but those get old pretty quickly), or just rip down a groomer; and, having good form makes skiing park so much easier. I honestly don't see the point in skiing park if you can't ski normally. It seems backwards to me. It's like a skater who can tre flip but can't cruise down a sidewalk.
Apr 4 2010 10:39PM
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Piste.Off
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a lot of the younger and new generation of freeskiers only started skiing because they saw that park skiing is now "cool" to do. so they jump right into the park first day and follow whatever trends there are out there. i know this is a rash generalization but a lot of new skiers are like this.
Apr 4 2010 10:41PM
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skiminnesota
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ive noticed the same thing in MN. there are people that kill it on rails. but put them on the steepest hill on my bump of a hill and they lose it. i mean this is MN for gods sake. these hills are not steep/scary. make a damn turn. lolz

its easy to tell when someone is actually good at skiing. they make it look effortless/natural.
Apr 4 2010 10:42PM
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OGSlopewatcherAssassin
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How many old psia tools are in the park, and how many of them are working on their form elsewhere? /thread

Beat it.
Apr 4 2010 10:42PM
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Sklar
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everyone is entitled to their own opinion on the best way to enjoy skiing,
but i still don't like when kids try to go straight into the park
Apr 4 2010 10:42PM
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Ryan*
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Sort of a continuation of my previous post: I only started park when I felt that
A: I was good enough to go in there and not be too terrified
B: I felt like every other part of my mountain had ceased to challenge me (not to brag, just being honest)

As far as the east coast is concerned, the park is among the hardest parts of the whole mountain to ski. I think that one should start skiing park only when they've become a good enough skier to handle all the other challenges that a regular ski resort can throw at them. This will lead to someone being an all-around great skier. I think the same goes for BC and that kind of stuff, but even more so; BC is a lot more dangerous, and I'd say that dropping cliffs and that type of thing takes far more skiing skill than park does; at least initially.
Apr 4 2010 10:48PM
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fuck.your.tits
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I don't get how people hate park, when you are trying new things and stomping new tricks it is amazing. But there is no feeling like riding freshies, especially bluebird days
Apr 4 2010 10:49PM
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Shpadoinkle
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Huh?

There are quite a few PSIA certified skiers and boarders in the park. They are sick all around the mountain.
Apr 4 2010 10:52PM
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KRAMPUSNTROLLZ
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tanner hall, candide thovex, jp auclair, dane tudor, timmy d, pep fujas many many more
Apr 4 2010 10:53PM
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Malcolm
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haha maybe not then. i hurt my foot in the park this weekend and i could barely make a turn after and all the gapers were passing me probably thinking i sucked at skiing
Apr 4 2010 10:54PM
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TheHuggyBear
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this turned into an epic thread.

I really think park skiers should drop into some other aspects of skiing..no doubt.

I get the same rush landing a new trick in the park that i do while dropping into a double EX
Apr 4 2010 10:58PM
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KRAMPUSNTROLLZ
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and most of the best big mountain skiers are decent at park if they want  to be people like seth and so forth who never set foot in one would still rape in a park because they arent scared of shit acrobatic and are gonna push it and are hella good at skiing so they could go into a park and throw down they just dont. now racers... thats a different story and they lack many of the qualities that would make them actual good all around skiers and on big moutain and such and jon is proving that winning nor ams only having raced for like two years now prolly be in the olympics in 2014
Apr 4 2010 11:00PM
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Shpadoinkle
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It happens. I'm not skiing 100% because it's the end of the season, my body is just tired and I have shin splints.
Apr 4 2010 11:02PM
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mseward
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the only time i ever hike is when i really want to learn something. or if im filming. whenever theres pow you will NEVER find me in the park
Apr 4 2010 11:13PM
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ComeDumpster
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nobody gives a shit about trees hit a jump bitch.
Apr 4 2010 11:13PM
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intifada
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HA
Apr 4 2010 11:14PM
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willy_baller
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i completely agree... i love park but if we get snow i wont even think about looking at the park..
Apr 4 2010 11:19PM
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Ian.Ham
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You must not know how to ski moguls then.  Moguls aren't my favorite, i would rather ski park or powder.  But ripping a perfect mogul run is always fun, going fast and the leg burn after.  Pretty good feeling.
Apr 4 2010 11:20PM
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TheBlurredChrons
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Skiing is about fun. As long as others aren't effecting you, who cares?

Skiing shouldn't be taken so seriously, not to mention we're all family.
Apr 4 2010 11:23PM
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NBCskier
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cats wearing tall tees any time, especially when they are a crusty snow dress tryin to ride pow always gives me a good laugh. too many people that think they are sick skiers cause they can ski rails and little jumps. too many skiers have a totally skewed vision of what skiing is.
Apr 4 2010 11:23PM
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TheTristanator
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i raced last year so... CHEA! but now i ski park way too much lol
Apr 4 2010 11:31PM
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jca
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I can ski out of the park...

March/April POW Skiing Edit from Jeff Amantea on Vimeo.

Apr 4 2010 11:46PM
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ScuffDUFF
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Apr 4 2010 11:53PM
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reBlocke
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From my experience- in general, the better someone I know is at park, the better they are outside of it as well. Not to say that all top notch park skiers are top notch freeriders, but there is definitely a correlation. I can't think of anyone who is a really amazing park skier who can't rip it fairly hard outside of the park.

It's probably that these "park kids" that you see who suck outside the park are probably just not very good skiers (park included). When you see someone struggling in the park in the latest flylow gear, you don't think "Why can't all these freeriders ski inside the park?!". It's probably just that they aren't all that great anywhere.
Apr 4 2010 11:58PM
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Utard
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But still...hucking a 30 footer into 4 feet of fresh with an XXXL tall tee streaming behind you like a superman cape does look pretty damn badass.
Apr 4 2010 11:59PM
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BandeezyBandanas
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i dunno..you just saying that sounds pretty badass.
Apr 5 2010 12:08AM
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Drail
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a little pretentious there, eh Jeff?
Apr 5 2010 12:09AM
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Kogu
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Epic thread Also, I learned to ski out of park first and now am taking an interest throwing a 360 or rolling a 180 over a little kicker on the side of a run. I like the way I learned, I get a thrill out of rolling onto a edge down a groomer and rolling to the other at 45+ MPH. But also going on a 20 ft jump with a clean grab or spin with the whole chair watching is just as much a thrill. Just in a different way. Same with a soft fluffy pow run or... ok I actually have to say I only enjoy moguls because I can't do them well and don't like them much so doings DECENT run is like a personal victory. Another technique under my belt :) I can always find a reason to go skiing on any day really. Its all good :p
Apr 5 2010 12:11AM
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