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Help on the history of the double cork

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MeLoveULongTime
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Help

Im doing a project for school on the history of skiing. I need some help on the the history of the double cork like who was the first to do it, when, where, links or a video


thanks

Mar 7 2010 4:42PM
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TPalms
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Funny... You ride his skis.
Mar 7 2010 6:10PM
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meat_sack
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pretty sure jon didn't invent the double cork
Mar 7 2010 6:11PM
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wlm
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jon did the "hexoflip" pretty simular to the doublecork we see nowadayz.. i think:P how ever jon started it all........ double..
Mar 7 2010 6:16PM
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family_vacation
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the "true double cork" that everyone refers to today was invented by a man named Andy Parry. Today he has sort of dropped out of the scene but he threw the first double cork in a big air comp in 2005.
Mar 7 2010 6:18PM
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TPalms
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Fuck. I messed up-- jon popularized the dub cork, he didn't invent them. Thinking about it, It was either Mike Wilson, Mike Clarke or Pk. Something like that.
Mar 7 2010 6:18PM
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STAUSS
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mike wilson yo!
Mar 7 2010 6:19PM
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fratskier69
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yeah, i think candide tried one a while back, but fell,
and in 2007 jossi did a sw dub rodeo 14, which is alot like a sw dub cork
maybe jon invented it, idunno
Mar 7 2010 6:19PM
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bfilm
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mike wilson....? not 100% sure but..
Mar 7 2010 6:19PM
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pmw
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mike clarke and jacob wester were two of the first guys to be doing switch dub corks, so its entirely possible he was one of the "founding fathers" of the trick today, same with mike wilson
Mar 7 2010 6:21PM
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wlm
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it was not PK..
Mar 7 2010 6:28PM
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shrEddie
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yeaah i remember he did one over snowbirds halfpipe in TBC and i shit my pants.   i watched that clip so many times like how the fuck it that possible.  im sure it wasnt the first but it was the first i had ever seen
Mar 7 2010 6:31PM
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dr.awkward
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anyone remember the "risky flip" on skimotion.com?
Mar 7 2010 6:33PM
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Kajex
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haha i was on a trip to utah when i bought TBC, and actually watched that for the first time after riding snowbirds pipe all day. totally made it more badass haha
Mar 7 2010 6:34PM
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jibmastaaa
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pretty sure it was cosco or mike clarke...maybe even jacob wester??? its weird how its so easy to recall the first to do some of the other dubs, but not the dub cork
Mar 7 2010 6:34PM
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Dirac
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The risky flip was kind of a precursor to this trick and was one of the first off axis doubles done. It was more of a d-spin to backflip, but was a lot closer than the Schrab (sp?) brothers double mistys or Toben Sutherland's flair to fronts that were being done around the same time.



Then mike wilson started doing wilson flips which are basically really inverted double cork 10's

best video I could find was his one over the halfpipe in TBC



After that Jon basically popularized doubles, first with his kangaroo flip and later with the DJ flip and Hexo flip. His DJ flip is basically so close to a double cork as well.



Also around the time of the kang and DJ flip other pro's started doing doubles as well. First double flats, and later double corks replaced switch spins as the must have trick. PK and Wester were some of the first guys doing true double corks in big comps but a lot of people were probably doing them by that point.

Now basically you need a double cork to really be competitive, and the latest variation is a double cork 1620 by TJ.

thats a quick history off the top of my head, haha just procrastinating doing my physics
Mar 7 2010 6:48PM
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ghosfacekilla
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yah definitely doesnt get the credit he deserves tho, Jon is sick but people were going inverted twice long before kang flips
Mar 7 2010 6:49PM
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Dirac
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oops that last video was meant to be jon's DJ flip. Here is Wester instead doing some doubles a long time ago.


Mar 7 2010 6:50PM
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BMS-Productions
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liked the first double back! yeah haha
Mar 7 2010 7:03PM
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Username_42069
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mike clarke on the double CORK im pretty sure, and mike wilson had the wilson flip, which i think was the one of the premier doubles that was outside of aerials.
Mar 7 2010 7:03PM
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dweezileast
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yea dude clark's dub was/is one of the sickest actual dub corks ive ever seen. witness:
Mar 7 2010 7:19PM
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Mr.Huck
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Please don't minimize the impact that this had on the future of dubs.  This was flat out sick, corked and huge.  Adam was a pioneer and he and Luke still kill it.  Props to Wilson too.  Both were responsible for raising the bar. 

Mar 7 2010 7:44PM
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Username_42069
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such a smooth slopestyle run, he used that exact video as his KOS entry haha and got the invite
Mar 7 2010 7:49PM
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dweezileast
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I'll save several people's dignities here: His pocket rockets aren't rockered, he broke them upon landing
Mar 7 2010 7:52PM
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Mr.Huck
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Yes,  I have spoken with Luke Schrab a bunch lately! Claim. ...but that is "Jump for Joy" at Blackcomb.  It's huge and back into the 80's some of the biggest tricks ever pulled were done there.  The first tripple back flip not done on a freestyle jump was done there.  The camera angle does not do this justice.  Luke and Adam are big guys and look like they played College Football for Wisconsin.  Between that and the layouts that Luke was throwing off of that thing, pretty surreal.  This is a slightly better perspective on how huge this was.


Mar 7 2010 8:16PM
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Spaceman_spiff
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i thought it was mike clarke
Mar 7 2010 8:20PM
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jason...
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First double corks were thrown by MIKE WILSON. Jon just made them popular.
Mar 7 2010 8:30PM
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skodeo7
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Rick Wrobowlski, crazy fuckin dude.
Mar 7 2010 8:31PM
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N.Skinner
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Not skiing but I believe this was before wilson...


JP Walker in Shakedown...2:50ish doublecorkish




Mar 7 2010 8:34PM
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TWoods
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The Wilson teddybear crisis double is a d-spin 7 to cork 3. Not a double cork.

The earliest REAL double cork I can remember was Mike Clarke in Japan. It was a double cork 10 or 12 tindy if I remember.
Mar 7 2010 8:37PM
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skiierman
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i have a feeling that this is going to be a shitty paper...
Mar 7 2010 9:00PM
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J-Evs
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and skiierman strikes!
Mar 7 2010 9:07PM
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itsssyourboy
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i remember readingh somthing that lead to me believing wilson was right at the forfront of dub flip progression if not the actual originator. what ever you wright he should probab;ly get a mention
Mar 7 2010 9:07PM
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C-DAWGSTYLEZ
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Whoa, where is this on blackcomb, i have to build/hit this.
Mar 7 2010 9:11PM
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Mr.Huck
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Can't believe I never heard of this guy back then.  It kind of looks like there were some attempts at dub corks in the 1999 footy.


Mar 7 2010 9:15PM
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dr.awkward
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this is very comprehensive haha!
Mar 7 2010 9:55PM
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Mr.Huck
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I have been looking for footage.  Having a brain fart as to which movie had the segment that really shows how big Jump for Joy is.  I think it was a Greg Stump movie.  It featured Trace Worthington and other US Ski Team Freestyle guys hitting this thing.  They started out going in on an angle hitting what they called the Blow Hole.  I'm pretty sure that this vid (ignore the skiing) shows the wind ridge.  Near where this guy catches a little air at the end of his run is where I believe the Blow hole is.  They hit it at a different angle going skiers left to right.  Pretty much launches you straight up, but the landing was steep enough.  Farther over to skiers left is where I think you can see the rest of the wind ridge.  Hitting that wind ridge straight on is what they called jump for joy. 

If anyone can find the footage and post it, it would really give you an idea of how big you can go.  It was the first time that a Screamin Seeman (named for Chris Seeman Winter Park Freestyle Coach) was shown in a ski film.  The guy that did it (Might have been Trace Worthington) did a daffy with full extension, crossed his legs, did a back scratcher with his legs crossed, brought his legs back down, did another daffy, uncrossed his legs, landed.  Each move was completely clean and stalled out.   Even by today's standards it was impressive.  I googled and found a run at Blackcomb called "The Blowhole".  I suspect that it was named for the jump at the bottom.  If you are up there and you figure out where the run called "The Blowhole" is, I am sure you will find these to features, and you really don't have to build much.  This clip is of some guy skiing the Blow Hole at Blackcomb.


Mar 8 2010 12:18PM
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samsquamch
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as in travelling circus andy parry?
Mar 22 2010 4:22PM
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FREEskiLINE
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check your sarcasm meter bro
Mar 22 2010 4:32PM
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Blurst
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nooooo ha
Mar 22 2010 4:36PM
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I.Love.Beezy
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jacob or mike clarke i think

Mar 22 2010 4:41PM
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Drail
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as Mr. Huck said. Blackcomb glacier, Not sure if it's in form all winter, I've hit it a few times in the summer... it's very obvious in the summer time. from the top of the showcase t-bar you head up and over to blackcomb glacier, traverse over and you'll figure it out.
Mar 22 2010 4:44PM
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bass4d
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in my opinion the firstime they were speaking of duble corks was at the joi 2007 where jacob wester amogst others were throwing it

i think jacob was the only throwingit in the competition, like in the final against pk and in a previous round gainst hatveit - just watched it in the joi edit form toxicfilms

tryin to upload it
Mar 22 2010 5:13PM
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nickyp
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It was Tom Wallisch





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Mar 22 2010 5:18PM
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