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Well that's a bold move Google.

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.KYLE.
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Well, long story short, Google is going to be shutting down in China...

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...These attacks and the surveillance they have uncovered--combined with the attempts over the past year to further limit free speech on the web--have led us to conclude that we should review the feasibility of our business operations in China.
We have decided we are no longer willing to continue censoring our results on Google.cn, and so over the next few weeks we will be discussing with the Chinese government the basis on which we could operate an unfiltered search engine within the law, if at all. We recognize that this may well mean having to shut down Google.cn, and potentially our offices in China...

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-approach-to-china.html
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Good.
Jan 12 2010 6:56PM
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Meh42
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Good.  A) Fuck China's oppressive regime and B) My family owns a bunch of stock in a Chinese search engine.

Win-Win.
Jan 12 2010 7:01PM
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.KYLE.
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And, if you're wondering what their being forced to do now, look at this...

http://images.google.cn/images?hl=zh-CN&um=1&sa=1&q=tiananmen&btnG=Google+搜索&aq=f&oq=&start=0

then look at the real results...

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS239&q=tiananmen&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
Jan 12 2010 7:01PM
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Brock.
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china needs to stop with this censorship shit, communism is dead
Jan 12 2010 7:02PM
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FerrisBueller
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go to google.cn and type in tienamen square.
Jan 12 2010 7:04PM
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Jordan
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that's insane
Jan 12 2010 7:05PM
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Blurst
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It's so ridiculous that they cna do that or that they even feel the need to still do stuff like this. It's not fair to their people to keep them so sheletered from everything. It's just a waste of life.
Jan 12 2010 7:12PM
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EastCoast315
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first half of the statement, I agree with.
Second half, I'd venture to say real communism was never (and can't feasibly ever be) born. So clearly, something unborn can't die.

I hope they dont shut down google in north korea as well?
Jan 12 2010 7:20PM
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BEARS.
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Jan 12 2010 7:22PM
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Kevski
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holy shit that's scary actually. I wanna know more about this...
Jan 12 2010 7:24PM
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shibby
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Fuck China.
Jan 12 2010 7:27PM
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Shewlur...
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haha China is a joke.  stupid commies...
Jan 12 2010 7:30PM
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superpoluha
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what does the sentance you uttered even mean?

their government is so fucked right now, that was amazing, google is doing the right thing here
Jan 12 2010 7:30PM
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skiierman
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well that's a bad example because if some kid for a school report was doing tianamen square and searched images and the first thing to come up was shot up bodies and tanks... may not be the best for a child to see.

but i get what you're saying.
Jan 12 2010 7:30PM
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prontocuts.com
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It seems that the american google is broken, all the pictures are the same....
Jan 12 2010 7:30PM
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EastCoast315
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I doubt the chinese gov't would allow reports on the killings at the square. I'd imagine they tell school kids that it "never happened"
Jan 12 2010 7:34PM
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skiierman
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come on, try to think a bit before you post.
Jan 12 2010 7:36PM
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kool.aid.man
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bold but good.
Jan 12 2010 7:40PM
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JosephStalin
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inb4 really long thread
Jan 12 2010 7:42PM
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Kajex
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it's a perfect example. i'm glad my google search isn't censored like that. Search " Kent State " and look at the first bunch of images that shows ups. Yeah it was a shitty time in history but it happened. Pretending it didn't is just rediculous. I see what you are saying in trying to protect the mind of a child. But that's what search filters should be for. Not censorship.
Jan 12 2010 7:48PM
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nightscraper
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or maybe we're being so well censored that we don't even know it?!
Jan 12 2010 8:44PM
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sarahskis
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Wow. Its for things like that in which a child-lock could be put on a computer, but for an entire country? No. With information as accessibile as it is, if you are curious, you should be just as capable of finding out what's real.
Jan 12 2010 8:51PM
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DrZoidberg
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Now that's censorship. I searched communism in google.cn and found some negative content, but is that technically what the government is?

I also searched Mao Zedong, overpopulation of china and made in china just for kicks.
Jan 12 2010 9:04PM
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ECfreeski3
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fucking right, way to go google!!
Jan 12 2010 9:36PM
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pmills
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spell it Tienanmen on google.cn and you get tanks; what's your point?

http://images.google.cn/images?hl=zh-CN&um=1&sa=1&q=tienanmen&btnG=Google+%E6%90%9C%E7%B4%A2&aq=f&oq=&start=0
Jan 12 2010 9:44PM
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*steeze_is_good
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That's exactly what happens, they want the chinese to be ignorant to the world around them. THe less they know, the easier it is to keep paying them ridiculously small amounts.
Jan 12 2010 9:50PM
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PeterNorth
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yea google
Jan 12 2010 9:57PM
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austinmetsch
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props to google. this is a great idea. hopefully it will catch on
Jan 12 2010 9:59PM
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Goku
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shits weak
Jan 12 2010 10:03PM
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skiierman
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i think that it'd be common sense that if a young child was doing a report on tiananmen square, it'd be on the square itself and not the massacre... that teacher would probably be fired.
Jan 12 2010 10:07PM
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Chris.S
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that's pretty interesting to me. I think Google is doing the right thing here, but I wonder if spelling would affect all searches on controversial issues or if that search was a glitch.
Jan 12 2010 10:09PM
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skiminnesota
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is this some twisted attempt to stick up for China?
Jan 12 2010 10:15PM
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pmills
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not at all! I'm just making sure he's honest on his side of the argument.

Yes China is censoring the internet; but to make people think that you cannot find any pictures of the protest from google.cn is just as dishonest as the censorship you're attempting to bring light to.


if you want honesty, you've got to bring honesty.
Jan 12 2010 10:20PM
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OhMyBosh
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Google does that shit here too...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/google/6967071/Google-denies-censoring-anti-Islam-search-suggestions.html


search any religion and "is" and you get a bunch of negative responses... search "islam is", the religion that is generally thought of as the worst by the western world, and you get nothing.




Jan 12 2010 10:28PM
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GayWolf420
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Well aren't you just fucking special?
Jan 12 2010 10:29PM
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pmills
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Google acknowledged this was a glitch and they were looking in to it.
Jan 12 2010 10:31PM
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OhMyBosh
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still calling BS... it looks a lot like google just doesnt want to offend muslims.
Jan 12 2010 10:33PM
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pmills
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look up islam bu

and you can find islam bullshit

look up islam li

and you can find islam lies
Jan 12 2010 10:33PM
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skiierman
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'Islam Is a Dangerous Religion,' Most American Pastors Say ...
The survey of more than 1000 Protestant pastors found 45 percent strongly agree with the statement "I believe Islam is a dangerous religion," and 21 percent ...
www.christianpost.com/article/20091214/-islam-is.../index.htm

8th result down you jackass.
Jan 12 2010 10:35PM
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yuck
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haha its true...
Jan 12 2010 10:35PM
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skiminnesota
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want some shits and giggles from Google?

type this in, and nothing more..... i am te

see what you get. go slowly.
Jan 12 2010 10:35PM
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Mac.
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Respect to Google for taking a stand.
Jan 12 2010 10:36PM
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idontactuallyski
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hahahah first suggestion: i am terrified of chinese people
Jan 12 2010 10:42PM
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apcaipse
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Completely agree.
If you misspell Tienanmen you get pictures of tanks.
Jan 12 2010 10:50PM
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ECfreeski3
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yeah that works with a lot of things, just put in something unfinished and the autofill recommendations are hilarious
Jan 12 2010 11:06PM
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OhMyBosh
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fail


type in "islam is" and you get no auto-complete stuff.
Jan 12 2010 11:14PM
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pmills
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maybe if i lace my post you'll read it? How is your point still valid?
Jan 12 2010 11:21PM
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OhMyBosh
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just seems like the "islam is" thing is the most popular one... i dont know... all im saying is that i wouldnt be surprised if they were censoring it.
Jan 12 2010 11:38PM
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Caveman.
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Damn................
Jan 13 2010 1:07AM
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toominator
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Put in tiananmen square and you get dead bodies

Put in tiananmen square massacre and you get dead bodies and tanks

The censorship doesn't seem to be that bad in this respect (I'm sure in other areas it's significantly worse). It probably seems bad to us because the only thing we generally know about the square is that protesters were killed there. So when westerners (and probably to some greater degree, US citizens - since the US Govt is anti communist) think 'tiananmen' they think tanks and dead people.

To the Chinese people tiananmen square is a culturally significant site as well the site of the protests. Therefore it would make sense that other images are displayed aside from the massacre pictures. If you are more specific in your search terms the images are there. I think the apparent censorship in this case is more a case of cultural differences.
Jan 13 2010 3:37AM
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