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How is it that pros always have next year's model ski in movies

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03gade
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I get it that they get stuff early but does that mean ski companies basically have the whole design for 2011 skis finalized and ready to distribute to pros right now? It just seems crazy early, basically we are always buying last years technology.
Nov 8 2009 2:31AM
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03gade
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i made a slight mistake.... they always have this years model ski... but all the filming was done last year
Nov 8 2009 2:35AM
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fountain.
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because they're pro.
Nov 8 2009 2:38AM
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lifesadream
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They get the prototypes in like March. They're skiing this years model right now though.
Nov 8 2009 2:42AM
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Malcolm
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no they actually film the movies a week before the premiers with green screens
Nov 8 2009 2:44AM
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Sun_Ra
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For marketing and testing reasons.
Marketing
Would you feel the need to change your skis as much if you were seeing 2009 skis in this fall's movies ?
You'd probably think : Why would I buy 2010 skis when all the pros in the movies are doing the craziest shits on 2009 skis ?
Testing
They need to test those new "SPACE AGE" technologies with pros before selling them to you. For exemple the afterbangs, they've been testing them for a few years before putting them on the market. This means that some pros might have been riding them with invaders graphics 2 years ago without us ever knowing !

And yes all the pros know what will come out in 2011 and even beyond ! Right now, the engineers might be working on 2013-2015 skis !

HOLY CRAP ! THAT'S SCARY !
Nov 8 2009 2:47AM
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rYb
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Alexis Godbout is skiing on all white salomon prototypes right now. Check his facebook dp.
Nov 8 2009 2:47AM
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03gade
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yeah im sure marketing is a big part of it... i didn't think of that, this whole thing is still kinda crazy that the ski is like FINISHED so early before hand, an all white ski makes more sense

and yeah i get that like cars and computers and shit are basically done before hand but this is a ski we're talking about here
Nov 8 2009 2:59AM
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Frank_Spinatra
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I heard Refresh was live.  Next year's ski movies will be fully interactive.  If you want Wallisch to throw a switch double lincoln loop (or Link and Loops as the kids are callin' them these days) all blunted to shit over Shawn White's private half-pipe, BAM you got it.
Nov 8 2009 5:17AM
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stephengillboy
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they have to have everything for next year finalized in january for SIA so I wouldnt doubt that next years skis are finished now.
Nov 8 2009 8:10AM
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I_Am_Mod
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also they often have the graphics for next year already worked out but the actual ski is still under testing and modification...

so they're not necessarily riding "next" years model, they could just as well be riding an old design with new graphics....
Nov 8 2009 9:17AM
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klax06
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Nov 8 2009 9:27AM
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BWalmer
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prototypes, marketing, and testing, it's that simple.

Prototypes are made of next years model so the pros get them to ski as hard as they can, if anything goes wrong with the ski they can tell the guys who make the skis to get it fixed.

Marketing is simply so WE know what to buy next year, think about it, the first time I was Line Afterbangs was in Traveling Circus and that's when people started to say "I want A-Bangs". The pros ski them in advanced so that they can show them off

Testing is simliar to the prototype thing, but this time its with the final product so they can give reviews for magazines and stuff.

It's just a perk of being a pro.
Nov 8 2009 11:05AM
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dirtylion27
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Like in the armada factory video, its still fall of 2009 but the already have made some of the new outerwear which will drop fall 2010
Nov 8 2009 11:10AM
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B-runge
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i lold
Nov 8 2009 11:20AM
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nickyp
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It's all Special Effects and CGI!!!!!!

Freeskiing is all one big hoax, created by the government to brain wash people.

Tom, Henrik, Dumont, Tanner etc are all animations.

Nov 8 2009 11:33AM
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shredables
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when your factory sponsored,  you are essentially an advertisement tool for the company. so when they have new ski's out that arent released yet to the public, the pro's will be riding on them.

i used to get the next years race ski's when i was on Head and Tyrolia.

Nov 8 2009 11:47AM
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skiseemore
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and pro model skis take a while to perfect they will ride them all season to make sure the exact specs are perfect for them then when they are ready you buy them pretty good system id say
Nov 8 2009 12:20PM
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mak
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OMG this has changed the way i look at skiing!

what else are they hiding from us?!

Nov 8 2009 12:30PM
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Logey.
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Nov 8 2009 12:38PM
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tommyp1ckles
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the ski industry was behind 9/11 and staging the moon landing
Nov 8 2009 12:48PM
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lifewithstyle
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hahahaha!
Nov 8 2009 12:52PM
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skodeo7
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More like January or early Feb.
Nov 8 2009 12:53PM
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Static
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quoted for emphasis
Nov 8 2009 12:57PM
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Logey.
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yeah cause in the first season of traveling circus they had like the anthems and afterbangs out pretty early
Nov 8 2009 1:03PM
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superpoluha
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plus, skis are sliding thingies on snow, so if that helps at all
Nov 8 2009 1:03PM
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Balto
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this is true for most larger companies. i got the 09/10 armada catalog in november 08 with full specs and graphics on everything in their line
Nov 8 2009 1:04PM
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jamodeo
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what about nam or was that the snowboard industry

Nov 8 2009 1:17PM
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spliff.Life
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this i know to be true
Nov 8 2009 1:20PM
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Literature
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I've heard Schmies say in October or maybe earlier that he was working on the K2 graphics for the following year, so who knows.
Nov 8 2009 1:50PM
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double_D
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wut.....
Nov 8 2009 1:53PM
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Jamie_Baril
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haha dave. arent you just full of connections.
Nov 8 2009 1:56PM
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tbayjibber
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jon olsson was rocking next years skis at joss in march
Nov 8 2009 2:08PM
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McLeod
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wheres heath?
Nov 8 2009 2:14PM
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Tmcchesney
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all next years gear is usually done mid winter for the trade show, so companies can show the buyers there new stuff
Nov 8 2009 2:19PM
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LMPJibbin
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they just need to test shit, they arent gonna work on the skis and have non-pro company workers test skis that are being made for pros stomping real tricks. the athletes are sponsored/hired as advertisment tools and testing tools, they have to help the company get the right types and good quality skis on the rack as well as get them off the rack by convincing people they should buy them.
Nov 8 2009 2:28PM
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jKutcher
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.  They have to have all their new products done for the big trade shows.  SIA, ISPO, ya diig?
Nov 8 2009 2:39PM
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TheUngroomed
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i thought everybody knew that
Nov 8 2009 2:49PM
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