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pontoons would be ur best bet for that type of skiing

In my the T-hall would be the best ski for you. I wasn't impressed by the Afterbangs and i just think they are pretty one dimensional, but they could be a possibility in a 177, However, you might want a little more than a Px 12. I've never been on 4 frnt, but i have never heard very good things about the TNK. The T-hall is a quality ski with a good flex for what you are looking for, solid construction and great ski for everything you can do in the park. Plus it comes in a 182 which would be perfect. As for bindings i would just go to the Which Binding thread and narrow it down to a few choices then find the cheapest or most appealing one, most 14/15/16 din bindings would be okay.

ok thanks i was leaning towards the t-hal and isnt the patoon more of a powder ski at least thats what i was under the impression of

pontoons sorry for the typo

haha yes, he was joking man. and i agree, thall

4frnt is money though, i have that same 4frnt setup your looking for and they kill on jumps and pipe, little stiff so you can't get to crazy on rails and butters and what not.

The Afterbangs are great skis for jibbing but aren't that great for jumps but if your doing small to medium jumps then they should be great. there really an innovative ski. The Thalls are great too on rails but they're also directed to the pipe which i wat ur not looking at but they do have a great flex pattern and are all around great skis. I dont know much about the 4front set up srry. Hope i helpled!

NO T-halls are nothing near pipe skis... the pipe cleaner is a pipe ski... The T-hall is a park ski (a damn good one).

all of these answers have been shit.

this guy weighs 190, none of these skis will be too good for you, the only one that would be decent would be the tnk since it is a little stiffer.

ive also noticed that for us heavier guys, i weigh about 210, fatter skis are your friend. a ski in the 90-100 mm waiste gives you a lot more stability, and since we are big the weight doesnt really make much of a difference. im riding scratch bc wrs' right now just started riding them and obsetheds in the park and it is so sick

if i were you i would look at the chronic, chronic wide(the one from about 2 years ago) if you like fatter skis, scratch bc(or whatever they are calling it now), fischer addict, the older seth(pre rocker). these are all skis i have ridden

I really don't think that a 176 Chronic is going to be better for a bigger guy than a 181 T-hall, considering the fact T-hall is 86 in the waste and the Chronic is 85. The Addict pro is a plank and the Villain pro only comes in 178 with an 82 mm waist. The addict has a 84 mm waist. The Chronic Cryptonite is not great for butters and rails and jibs. Pre Rocker Seths are hard to come by and frankly not the best park ski. In my opinion the Thread creator would be happiest on something closer to the T-hall or maybe something like the Walls if he had the money. Rossi could also be a choice but frankly every time I have ridden the Scratch BC, they have been a dead lifeless stick with very little pop and have been no fun. There is my 2 cents.

I agree. I'm like 170 and found last years Thall to be pretty buttery when you want it to be, but solid on big jumps. You're pretty heavy, so if you're concerned about washing out consider the PCs. I've skied them too and theres a noticeably stiffer tail.

sorry kid, you obviously know nothing. first off how much do you weigh? im guessing you are pretty light.

i dont see what you are trying to get at with the t-hall vs the chronic, chronic is much stiffer making it more stable. did i say anything about chronic kryptonites? no i did not, i said the chronic wide from about 2 years ago, remember the black ski with the skull and blue instead of red? ya you probably dont because im guessing you are some little kid who has no buisness giving anyone advice. a ski being stiff does not mean it isnt good for jibbing, especially when you are a bigger guy. seths arent a good park ski? are you kidding me? have you ever ridden a seth? its an amazing ski everywhere, and no slouch in the park whatsoever. the only BC's that have seemed in the least bit life less were the ones before 06-07(wrs) like  the ones with the naked girl on the tip which i believe was 05-06, which was still a great ski. I ride BC's now, and they slay so hard. super light, super poppy, great for butters snappy and just soft enough to flex pretty deep, and they are still amazing on jumps, ive hit 80ft + jumps on mine with no problems

you can have your 2 cents back.

ar6 could be pretty good for you too, i think they are supposed to be slightly stiffer this year

Holy shit you are such an asshole. Im 20 so take your ego and shove it up your ass. Ya I remember chronic wides and no I did not ride them, but I know for a fact that they are a smaller ski than the Cryptonites, so if the OP creator was even interested in a ski like that the Cryptonites would be better. Have you ever ridden 09 or 10 T-Halls? I don't think so because you would know that they are not as soft as in the past, the flex is way more progressive and more of a medium flex ski; Oh and the OP is looking for a "flexible ski for park and small to medium jumps and rails,"T-Halls seem pretty close to what he is looking for. And if for some insane reason that the OP creator wanted 05-06 BC 's I wish him luck in finding them. I think your are fucking delusional about bigger skiers and 190lbs really isn't as big as 210lbs; so in reality I am 100% confident that a 181 T-Hall could easily support the OP creator in what he wants to do with them, he doesn't need a fucking plank to butter and I don't think the OP creator is even interested in any of the skis you mentioned. And i still think BC's are shit and good for you for hitting 80ft jumps on them... And next time you try to say that someone is a fucking "kid" get your head out of your ass and try to realize that just because Im not a fatass i can give advice on this site and I maybe know what I am talking about. Which I do. And I think your wrong. And don't call me a kid because I am a legal fucking adult.

well you still act like a child even if you are a legal adult.
haha, a fat ass? that sounds pretty childish.

i've weighed 190 for the past few years, and jumped up to 210 back in march. i play rugby, so im actually at a pretty good weight, im looking to step up to about 215-220. my body fat is 12% which is pretty much ideal for an athlete.

your a fucking idiot, im not suggesting cryptonites, im suggesting chronic wides because they are smaller and would be better for park while still being stable. when you weigh 190, a ski that others consider, stiff is pretty flexy for you. at 190, i rode addicts and could butter like non other on them, stiffness is relative.

how much do you weigh? in this particular case, your weight actually does affect your suggestions, because something stiff to a light weight is much easier to flex for someone heavier.

im not trying to brag about hitting 80 ft jumps kid, im saying that bc's are stable on bigger jumps

and i have ridden the 09/10 t hall, and i was not a fan.

i never suggested 05-06 BC's, the ones i suggested are the WRS which has been made since 06-07 but with a different name