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Pintail skis(and my 333 ski design)

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iFail
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I am finishing up my 333 design, which has dimensions of 131/142/118/125/116 in a 192.  I gave the tail a short(16cm) 3cm rise rocker, and 10cm of taper(plus 4cm normal tail curve that is cut off like EHPs).  Not a twin twip.  Mount will be from -5 to -6(possibly -7) with Dukes.  I haven't skied a pin tail ski before, but thought it made more sense than a full out normal sidecut tail on a ski aimed at pow.  What do you guys think of skis like S7/193 EHPs tails for pow/curd charging, and for trees?

Oh and I might as well throw out the design to see what people think, here is just about everything:

     -Length:192
     -dimensions:131/142/118/125/116 (so skinniest part of tip taper/fattest part of tip/skinniest part of waist/fattest part of tail/skinniest part of tail taper)
     -24cm tip length, 10cm of which is normal tip curve, 14 of which is taper.(good)-14cm tail length, 4cm of which is the start of normal tail curvature, then there will be a 6cm wide flat(straight across) tail(make sense? Like EHP)
     -38cm length tip rocker(measuring straight no slack) with 7.2cm total rise in each ski.
     -16cm tail "rocker" that is constantly curving with 3.5cm of rise.
     -5mm of camber underfoot on each ski.
     -flex: medium in the tip(or just over medium), medium-stiff tail and stiff underfoot.

this is half of the tip rocker size(vague sketch, but gives you guys an idea). I apologize in advance for the most likely failness of the picture coming up: [IMG]http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/9229/38x72rocker3.png[/IMG]

Aug 21 2009 9:15PM
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iFail
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http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/9229/38x72rocker3.png click it..
Aug 21 2009 9:15PM
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iFail
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any recommendations at all?
Aug 21 2009 10:45PM
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Slinger1x1
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sounds like one insane ski. The tip rocker seems a little excessive though. i could be wrong. What did Michael think about it? hes the real expert
Aug 22 2009 3:59PM
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butteredpretzel
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pic 404d :( im prob doing something wrong though
Aug 22 2009 6:00PM
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Ski.Ballet
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As it's not a twin, you might want to mount them farther back - maybe -8 or 9.
Aug 22 2009 6:18PM
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iFail
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Michael didn't seem to have a large input on the total rise.  As for the length, think about hellbents rocker+tip length -15cm length(because bents are 40+normal tip length, mine is 38 w/o normal tip).  As for total rise, I had it at 6cm, but Splat(TGR, PM Gear) recommended 75mm rise.  I firgured I would listen to him since he has skied all different types of rocker, so I went 72mm rise(couldn't get myself to add those last 3mm).  Yes, it might be a bit much..but oh well! it starts low profile so it will be versatile, and look at S7s rocker which people seem to love.  Of course I have no idea if my hopes are true though.

As for the mount, the pin tailish shape shouldn't be mounted very far back(Think Pontoons mount, EHP mount, etc. are all no more than 5cm back of true).  At least that is what I have heard about EHPs a fair amount, which this ski should be somewhat close to.  Plus I will be spinning sometimes, and will most likely attempt to ski switch with it for fun(=failure??).

Here is a 50% shot of the tip rocker: Click for larger image

tail rocker is similar with lower rise.

Aug 22 2009 8:08PM
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iFail
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^(you have to click it to see 50%)
Aug 22 2009 8:09PM
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Slinger1x1
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i mean if he said so, then im sure its good. just from the picture it looked big

btw, how did you get that picture?
Aug 22 2009 8:37PM
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Mt_Baker_Man
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They sound pretty sweet, my 222s are not going to have a serious rocker like that, but they are also not a pow specific ski. I think you should mount them about 6 back from true, any farther back are you are going to overload the tail in pow too easily. It will look funny, but wont be fun. I think the overall design is pretty sweet though. Hope you like them.
Aug 22 2009 9:08PM
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