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Cash for clunkers

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prontocuts.com
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really good for the environment





fuck this
Aug 19 2009 11:45PM
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Mr.Panda
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there is already a thread about this that also DISCUSSES this...
Aug 19 2009 11:47PM
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prontocuts.com
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IIRC It was just a political bash fest about how it fails. This is about how they kill the car.
Aug 19 2009 11:49PM
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beast_coast
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hey look a perfectly good american car destroyed so people can get 4500 dollars off of a shitty foreign car. that does NOTHING for the national economy, i dont get what the fuck the government was thinking when they thought up this program, they were probably high on reefer.
Aug 19 2009 11:50PM
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Mr.Panda
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IIRC?  goddamnit, i hate internet speak.

and yeah, its fucking stupid, everything about the program is fucking stupid.

Aug 19 2009 11:51PM
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prontocuts.com
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They thought about the short term only. Thats the problem with a bad economy like the one we are in. You try way too hard to help the short term, resulting in an epic fail in the long run.

Im just pissed because Im in the market for a used 4wd truck just like all of those that they showed, I cant find SHIT right now
Aug 20 2009 12:05AM
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Mr.Panda
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i have a 1984 Bronco 1 with a 351 Cleaveland engine in it...  no, you cant have it.  last summer i was looking to get a F250 with FX4 crew cab short bed to replace it but FFFUUUCCCKKK that right now, i like my truck.
Aug 20 2009 12:13AM
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FUUUCK
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many foreign car companies have plants located in north america
Aug 20 2009 12:21AM
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1337
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Some of those cars they were planning on wrecking were such a waste, they were nice and i definitely would buy and drive one
Aug 20 2009 12:25AM
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Mr.Panda
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they may have plants in north america but the cash the company makes goes back to the head office which is quite often in a different country.  the idea was for people to buy Ford and especially GM or Chrysler cars...  GM and Chrysler actually lost ground in the sales department but Ford did gain some.  and which two were the companies that needed to be bailed out?
Aug 20 2009 12:30AM
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Funnel
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That was almost sad to see.  They took a perfectly fine car and just destroyed it.  Way to save the environment you ignorant fucks.  This country gets worse everyday the sun rises?  They could part the car out, re-sell it, use it for scrap metal.  Jesus Christ, what a waste.  I am seriously considering writing a letter to the Obama administration.  What does it fucking matter though, I am one person, it's not like I help and pay for all the stuff in this country.  100% utter bullshit.  We are basically letting the government do whatever the fuck they want.  No one is stopping them , we don't get to vote as a country.  This fucking sucks.  We never should have bailed out the auto makers.  If they were going to die, let them die, it is their fault for making shitty vehicles, not ours, theirs.  If GM were to go bankrupt, Union contracts could be abolished and the workers would not have to be paid so highly and gain so many benefits.  Should have let them go bankrupt and then save their ass.  I think that is the case, if not sorry for my mistake. 
Aug 20 2009 3:39AM
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skiminnesota
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i know of 2 cars i would have happily driven had the owner now turned them into be destroyed...
Aug 20 2009 10:28AM
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salomon097
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...we did let them go bankrupt. they came out of it already.
Aug 20 2009 10:44AM
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Slinger1x1
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I have a 1992 BMW 318i
it gets fucking shit for gas mileage but its rated at 22
I would KILL to get $4500 for this car...


Its really not bad... its putting money into the auto industry that needs to be there. foreign maker or not, north americans that work in their factories have more work from it which is whats important
Aug 20 2009 11:21AM
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seemeski
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To put it in perspective, a mobster employs a bunch of maids and butlers, they don't do any killing or whatever a mobster does but they still work for a bad person. Then the police bust the mob guy. Are you going to complain that the maids and butlers don't have jobs now and the mobster should be just reprimanded but not put in jail? Fuck no.

This is what's happening (in my understanding) only on a much larger scale and the mobsters are the people running car companies. And instead of killing people they are destroying the environment, and just in general making fucked up, greedy decisions


Aug 20 2009 11:55AM
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S6OYB
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this program is complete and utter bullshit. that ford ranger was a great looking truck and so were a lot of other cars they showed on the lot. how the fuck are people who can't even afford to pay off their house, pay their bills, or find a job make payments on a new car? they're just going to be repoed and welp everyone will be fucked again...

i believe somewhere near 300K people participated in this program...well that's 300K used cars that are now being destroyed and polluting the environment worse than any so called clunker would.

think about it this way...if the person in chug life 2 would have traded in that 1986 subaru gl silver wagon for $4500, ian would never have made it to keystone/breck. who says people don't want $400 used cars? not everyone can afford a really nice used car...
Aug 20 2009 1:06PM
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prontocuts.com
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This is even sadder


Aug 20 2009 2:33PM
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*Bird
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gay, dont be cheap just go buy urself another car and take the old shit off some jumps!
Aug 20 2009 2:40PM
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samwise
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I'm fuming sitting here imagining them doing that to my old Volvo. RIP.
Aug 20 2009 3:02PM
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Mavrck
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yeah but those cars woulda been put in a junk yard in 10 years anyway. might as well get em off the road get people to spend some money and get some more efficient cars back on the road. I don't understand why they have to clog the engine though. Why can't they just crush them?

I do agree that not breaking them down for parts seems kinda wastefull....
Aug 20 2009 3:02PM
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Funnel
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Shit.  That's pathetic.  A perfectly good car.  Did the government not really see that by doing this we are hurting the environment more than by leaving those cars on the road.  There was a 2005ish Ford F-150 and they are just going to destroy it.  WHAT THE FUCK!?  I would take that truck.  What the hell is going on, have we really become this greedy and ignorant?
Aug 20 2009 3:18PM
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8ONE657
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really shaun? really?

people rely on those cars as a way to get around, people who can't afford a decent used car would kill to have a $600 beater because it's better than walking, riding a bike, or public transit. and all this green crap and "help the environment" is all a ploy to suck us americans of jobs and money. i can't wait until the union gets a load of what the government is planning to do to them.
Aug 20 2009 4:09PM
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Hugh_Conway_jr
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these videos make me sick to my stomach. both vehicles were nicer than mine. the worlds just gone crazy.
Aug 20 2009 4:27PM
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I_Am_Mod
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i'm not supporting the cash for clunkers thingy, but in gods name, if you're gonna wreck a car, do it on a better or cooler way, im fairly sure spilling all kinds of oil and other toxic substances isn't the way to go + its asking for trouble, you saw how the last car caught fire and spewed boiling hot oil when people were standing around.....

is it so much harder to just drill through the engine block ?
or just crush it ?

this is completely unnecessary and uncool; i do not support !
Aug 20 2009 4:45PM
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Dustin.
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I think it's a great program for people like you who have a worthless car that gets crap for mileage, but it is ridiculous to destroy perfectly good cars that are worth way more than $3500-4500.
Aug 20 2009 4:50PM
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Mavrck
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sooooo putting more of those same cars back on the road for $600 is going to make the world a cleaner place? doing something to try and reduce emissions seems better than nothing at all thats all im saying. And as for the whole600 dollar beater argument most of the people trading in these cars are doing it because they're getting this money towards a new car, otherwise theyd still be driving around the car. So either way those people would be outta luck.
Aug 21 2009 1:11AM
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Slinger1x1
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but people with cars that are good either get higher gas mileage or are to good to turn in

I also have a Audi A6 wagon, it get 18 miles to the gallon, we could turn it in, but its worth more than $4500. I mean the car kinda sucks dick (i hate it) but its not worth turning in
Aug 21 2009 5:46PM
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Lemuel
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Or they could have taken the engines out of the cars and taken them apart.  That Volvo was worth more than $4500 I bet unless it had a couple hundred k miles on it.  They could have used them for parts, some school have auto shops and classes that could have used these to learn with.  That was probably a lame idea but it popped up in my head. 
Aug 21 2009 5:52PM
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