11 Tips for getting, and keeping speed

i totally recommend using snow fence along with turf. the snow fence is very fast when you get that shit wet.

Is there a manufacturers tag on it somewhere.  If you can find something that has the company name and maybe model number, that would be helpful.  I googled pool tarps and there were about 25 different types. 

mad helpful, but i heard from a friend that snow fence and carpet i super slick, but still has some edging, someone try it and reply, i would recommend doing snow fence and carpet on the drop, turf on the ramp, and something like lattice on the ski out, try it and reply...

how well would this work?  :

i have a ramp at a 45 degree angle.  i will make a nother connector ramp at a 22.5 degree angle would this work well or will i lose too much speed on the transition?

I have small speed issues on my winter setup, can't get enough speed for rail. And I'm wondering does a flawless bump which I can push out could give me some speed or it will slow me down?

where can i get orange construction fence?

steal it from a construction site, or a field in the winter they use that stuff for a snowfence to stop drifts, or buy some at hd but i recommend stealing it b/c its kida expensive, and the shits everywhere

For anyone who is having trouble with their drop in, or hasn't built yet, I would highly recommend buying this:

I think Luke and Adam Schrab are awesome, but I don't work for them and don't get paid by them.   Msnow may cost you a few hundred to purchase enough for your drop in, but it will be worth it.  You don't need to wet it down or soap it.  It will always be consistently the same speed and it will outlast the wood you build your set up with.  You can grip with it so it is great for spinning on.  It costs money to wet down and soap turf to make it fast.  The soap makes PVC really slick.  You will eventually get it dialed, but wouldn't it be nice to not have to deal with that crap.  Your parents won't bitch at you for the water bill or for the soap killing the grass.  You wont have to worry about creating a huge mud bog in your yard or a mud slide which relocates your house into your neighbors back yard.  You will ultimately spend more money buying turf, soap and fencing than you would for MSnow.  My recommendation and what I will be doing shortly, is to use MSnow for the drop in and plastic lattice fencing for the landing slash ski out.  Done.  I will never have to screw around with it again.    

so i just made my first pvc rail. i have a hill in my backyard that is about 15 feet long at a 45 degree angle, that then goes to flat . for the run in, i am using a double layer of snow fencing. the problem is i am wetting it down, but barely get enough speed to make it to the top of the jump. The jump is one of those plastic black bike jumps. Any suggestions?

Do you have a link to a website where you can buy Msnow or where can you find it.

Crushing some ice cubes and throwing them into your tranny helps a lot. They actually last surprisingly long in the warm weather.

put plywood underneath the fencing

ok thanks ill try that

Sorry. Haven't checked this out in awhile. www.midwarp.com

Alright so my pool tarp has held up nice over the winter when i wasn't skiing it a lot. The tarp got a little shredded when my friend that sucks edged hard. I started to rub some soap on before i watered the drop in. Made the drop in hella fast. Highly recomend this, sorry i was unable to put out a tag and to be honest im really not a hunderd percent sure what the tarp actually is. I will find a tag or try to and get back to you guys on the whole thing so you can try it.

This thread helped me So Much!

About to go throw on some pvc roller like things onto my ramp.  I hit it for the first time since winter and it was mad slow.  I think my plastic fencing has gotten dried out and just isn't as fast anymore.

Did anyone try to use some sort of wax or something on the turf itself? Something that's insoluble in water so wouldn't be washed away. That way you don't have to apply it all the time.

quality thread :3 helps alot!!

I'm about to build a setup that goes off my shed, it's 14' long so I was gunna use turf to cut down the cost, but I guess I could make a ladder using m-snow. Is it worth saving $200 for the m-snow??

this.

not really. just do the turf, and if you need more speed throw some construction fence on it

The reason why we are always having trouble maintaining speed with artificial surfaces is that a petex base will always be slower on a synthetic surface than it is on snow. The reason that Msnow works well is because it minimizes the amount of contact that the ski base has with the surface at any given time.

I would definitely still recommend buying Msnow if you can afford to because it is just easier. There will be fewer issues that you have to work out with your setup. As long as your transition is mellow and smooth and your lip is right, your setup will work great.

For those who still want to go with turf, I had an idea. Use two layers of turf. The bottom layer will be cheap low pile turf. The top layer should be a thicker pile with pretty stiff bristles. Take that turf and cut a diamond pattern out of it. I'm thinking that the diamonds should have 2 inch sides, and be spaced about 2 inches apart. Here is a drawing I did:



Basically you are making a lattice form out of turf. This should be fast without having to wet it much and you shouldn't have to use soap. It should also work for setting an edge for your take off. I really think that this is a way of making turf work by decreasing the amount of surface area that your base is going to come in contact with. If you are making a ladder style drop in, you can wrap the cheap thin layer of turf around the 2 x 4's and then wrap the diamond cut out layer over it. That will make the drop in even faster. So you don't waste material I would attach the diamonds that were cut out to to the top flat surface of your drop in.

Feel free to PM me if you have questions.

if you can, turf has a natural angle, make sure you get it leaning this way ////// if you are dropping in left to right. if its angled up hill you will loose alot of speed and itll wear down your bases faster