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line mo'ships - great for straightlining
for pure forward float- k2 pontoons
for monster fat charger - the new liberty genomes, moment donners, or faty-pus alottas. All around 140 at the waist.
Good luck, but you must be on a handsome ski budget for another pair of powsticks on top of hell bents.
your ski budget is through the roof haha
and whoever said A-Lotta and stuff, 140 waisted normal sidecut not rockered powder skis are the most retarded skis out there. Has anyone had a problem floating there EP Pros, Pontoons, or other skis like that? and for the thread creator, ya something stiff for sure, LL2s or ARGs could be good choices
Rebuttal here - fatties with regular sidecut and rocker are not "retarded". If they were truly useless, then they wouldn't be in production. I ride SFBs and specifically did NOT get a rockered ski because I wanted groomer versatility. Only a few skis have reverse sidecut, and it is an emerging design, so there are still plenty of perfectly good skis that don't use it. No, noone but a sumo wrestler-sized skier has had trouble floating EPs or pontoons that you mentionned, but you'd be hard pressed to sick any ski that big, regardless of camber. And the genomes do have rocker, so check your facts before calling me out. thanks
General NS rant here - just because a new design is proposed does not guarantee that everyone will like it. It seems that everyone loves rocker and wide skis, and I like them too, but if you do more touring, they aren't as efficient. Think for yourself and what you're looking for. Ex.- Dynastar XXL, little or no rocker and one of the best charger skis out there.
To thread creator, demo chopsticks if you get a chance. Stiff, but symmetrical and next years graphic is the tits.
I'm maybe 150lbs fully laidened with ski gear, and I ride ARG's. I'll tell you what, it's cheating. Stupid easy turns, and they jump out of powpow when you turn like a dolphin. Easily the best investment I've made in skiing. A little flexy, but many pow skis are. And on groomers, i wash out a lot. Screw edges basically but you can get down fine, it's not like it will be icy on a powder day.
I'd say go for it. For the floatation and pop and the easiness to turn, totally worth it. Other skis seem to bulky to handle with total control for me.
no idea, but a quick google search got this from TGR:
this guy reviewing is only 145lbs...heres some quotes- "I drop in to the fall-line, and again the tips start to submarine. I rock back on to my heels,and bring the tips up. I straight line some, to plane the tips on to the top of the snow, and start to make turns. However, my weight has gone to a forward, more aggressive, position, and again the tips dive. This sucks. Big negatives here...."
"Overall: Disappointing. As fat as they were, they didn't do it in the Pow, despite the width. They great in the chop, but overall there are other skis that do better than these, especially in the pow. And for $800 and a ski that is marketed as 'the' ski for pow, it blows that they don't do it."
first post down- "Great review man, and you echo what i've heard from others" (AND YOU ECHO WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM OTHERS) probably isn't a good sign. Heres the review if you want to check it out though: http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48626 I just dont get why anyone would want them with choices like Pontoons, ARGs, S7s, and normal sidecut skis like Solly Rockers and bents and caylors and LL2s, which also might be more versatile
Sorry, wich ian provo edits do you watch?
I've watched the ones from the Armada podcast and he only uses JJ's (next years offcourse)