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Pivots vs. turntables

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jibjunkie
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so i know turntables are the shit but how are pivots in comparison. they seem very similar excelt pivots have stronger larger arms. are pivots better than scratch/px 12 bindings. +k for info
May 3 2009 8:53PM
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Balto
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best to worse

FKS
Pivot
PX
May 3 2009 8:56PM
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no_steeze
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FKS
Pivot
PX




Duct Tape







Twine


Dental Floss









Marker Comp 11.0
May 3 2009 9:27PM
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Dylan_
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hahahahahahahahahaha
May 3 2009 9:31PM
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Style+eeze
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ahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhaha.

and, i like the name change! haha
May 3 2009 10:00PM
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jibjunkie
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allright thanks to all looks like pivots should be fine
May 4 2009 7:11AM
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Caveman.
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but FKS and look Pivot race stocks bindings are the same thing.
May 4 2009 12:00PM
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japanada
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I ride Rossi power 140s and love them. Durable, nice din for how I ride, plus they have vertical release, plus you can actually buy wide brakes for them.
May 4 2009 1:05PM
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no_steeze
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i basically consider the pivot turntables to be fks
May 4 2009 3:16PM
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Caveman.
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They have been look bindings since the 50s, FKS since the 90s. I prefer to stick to the Look terminologies.
May 4 2009 4:27PM
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jibjunkie
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i just remembered that when i went to busch gardens( amusement park) a month ago they have this ride called alpinegeist which is a skiing themed roller coaster and by the ride they have old straight skis mounted up for decorations and then i noticed that one of them had turntables! these were the first turntables i had ever seen and they were ancient look bindings. the toe was squarish and the boner heel peice didnt even have a din thing to adjust. o ya and the brakes were like a seperate part from the binding. the brakes were mounted betweeen the toe and heel and they were mounted backwards. then i found a beautiful red pair in a unnel that were pretty nice. do you think it wouuld be worth it to unscrew these and jack em to use as a bakyard binding?
May 4 2009 6:36PM
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Balto
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bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
May 4 2009 6:37PM
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no_steeze
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haha i always end up confusing other people with the p terminology, fks, pivots, and px are what i use, whenever i tell people i have p15's they always think i'm talking about pivots
May 4 2009 6:40PM
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Caveman.
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no
May 4 2009 6:44PM
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Caveman.
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OK so Pivot refers to a look binding with a turntable heel (equivalent to fks) where as px refers to a fixed heel correct?
May 4 2009 6:45PM
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japanada
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look used to make p15 and p18 bindings, those were the same as the fks 155/185. Look also made p10/12/14s, those both have pivot heels also, but they are a different design than the fks. Rossi's versions or the p10/12/14 series were call the power series, hence power100/120/140s.

and yes, px refers to the modern fixed heel look bindings. Axial2s are the same thing as the px series.
May 4 2009 7:05PM
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BigJew
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The PX should be in between Twine and Dental Floss
May 4 2009 7:22PM
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blackoutbill
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Are px's really that bad? Cause I need new bindings and I want to get the best for the money
May 4 2009 7:34PM
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japanada
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No they arent that bad, but people love their FKSs and Pivots more than the PXs.

I also think that some people hate on the PXs cause they replaced the older pivot series.

The PXs kill it one pow sticks.
May 4 2009 7:44PM
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Caveman.
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Except for the weight factor.
May 4 2009 7:57PM
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blackoutbill
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Ahh. What is lighter comperable quality binding than a px?
May 4 2009 8:11PM
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Deletedtoday
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YES !


take note thomas
May 4 2009 8:13PM
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PaleCelery
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Best bindings out there today.

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May 4 2009 8:19PM
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Caveman.
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P12/FKS 120 are about 1/2 pound lighter, P15/18/FKS 155/185 are comparably the same and STH 16 and STH 14 Driver are a little lighter.
https://newschoolers.com/web/forums/readthread/thread_id/399330/
May 4 2009 8:21PM
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blackoutbill
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Ah word. Thank you!
May 4 2009 8:24PM
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japanada
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I can live with an extra pound or two.
May 4 2009 8:30PM
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Caveman.
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Ya for sure if you're skiing, weight isn't that big of a deal but at a lot of ski areas out west, at least that I have been to there is a lot of hiking that can be done to get the goods this is where the weight starts to add up. That and hiking jumps.
May 4 2009 8:33PM
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japanada
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^ I still stand by my previous statement.
May 4 2009 8:37PM
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Deletedtoday
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then you just got to get stronger!
May 4 2009 9:15PM
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Balto
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narker comp 11 fail at life, comp 14 and up are great
May 4 2009 9:23PM
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Deletedtoday
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you mean griffions are great
May 4 2009 9:33PM
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no_steeze
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this kind is, not the other kind
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May 4 2009 9:40PM
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Balto
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i wish my tauren druid could get a griffon as a mount :(
May 4 2009 9:55PM
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no_steeze
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i think the universe would be complete if tauren druids could have griffon mounts, starvation would be over, aids would only be in kenya, swine flu would be gone, war would stop, etc.

loser........tehehe
May 4 2009 10:10PM
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Balto
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:(
May 4 2009 10:33PM
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Love_Wins.
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The Power series was also interchangeable with the "axial" series, also a reason for the "Axial2" designation on the PX heel rossis.
May 8 2009 2:42PM
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