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Camp comparison, former campers please help

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skier11111
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I'm 20 years old, I have been skiing for many years, but am new to newschool skiing.  I have been skiing park this year and can 180 semi good and can kinda throw sketchy 360s, I can hit boxes, flat rails, down rails, flat down flat boxes, and ride switch pretty well.  I am trying do decide between going to windells and momentums camp this summer.  I want to learn good 1s and 3s with grabs, 5s, and fronts, backs, rodeos, switch ups, and 270s.  Momentum will cost me about 500$ more to go to but they have water ramps.  I was wondering which you think would be the best for a beginner skier like my self you is eager to learn new tricks in a good enviornment.  I will have a nice summer setup to try to keep me on my toes for summer camp.  +k for help 

Apr 19 2009 11:25PM
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VCharette
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1) What are you comparing momentum with
2) If you wanna go from a sketchy 180 to doing rodeos you better have a lot of determination/balls/learn quick
3) I can't help you sorry
Apr 19 2009 11:27PM
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skier11111
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I know about the rodeo, thats the last on my list of goals, but what I want to learn really doesnt matter, I just want to get better.  I acm comparing windells and momentum.
Apr 19 2009 11:33PM
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Eastcoastr
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momentum: less lines= more skiing= more learning
Apr 19 2009 11:47PM
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backwardsrider
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yes

and try to go to water ramps on like the first day, then you have waymore confidence.

Apr 20 2009 12:03AM
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Codfish.
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windells has a private rope tow now
Apr 20 2009 12:18AM
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Hovan
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im in the same boat as you, and Im going to the first two sessions of momentum
Apr 20 2009 12:41AM
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Alp1ne
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When i was at CoC last year the momentum park looked preatty crappy, they spend half there time and effort on bumps so its never going to be as good.

Windells = good park no lines anymore thanks to rope tow, fun stuff to do around camp but your stuck there and it takes like an hour to get to hood.

CoC = Amazing park, kinda crappy lines but the park is at least twice and big and way better, water ramp and your free to do whatever you want after skiing.

Apr 20 2009 1:04AM
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OG_pimp
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The lines are only bad towards the end of the day. The park makes up for the lines.
Apr 20 2009 1:27AM
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Adrienne.
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WHen i went to WIndells the coaches didnt help at ALL...and you are stuck on the camp campus...they have tramps and if you skate it would be super fun. long drive to the hill...i didnt like Windells that much
I also went to momentum...the coaches are Amazing! they help you so much and you change everyday so you learn from different people!...you get to do whatever you want at night go walk all around Whistler which is awesome...the hill is right there, you get to stay in a really nice hotel, windells is shitty bunk beds that you have to bring your own sleeping bag or sheets or something...i thought momentums park was really good lots to learn on!
Apr 20 2009 1:58AM
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steezerampage
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Thanks for the help so far, be let me make clear I don't care about non skiing related activities.  Am I correct that coc and windells does not have water ramps?  Also i know cocs park is the best, but with my current condition of wanting to learn good 3s and 5s and flips I probably wount be doing that on a huge jump.  Also coaching is big for me and it sounds like the mo is better for that than coc.  So that brings me to windells vs mo.  I am just weighing if going to mo is worth the extra 500$ it will cost me. 
Apr 20 2009 1:45PM
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00000000
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You are old enough to party in Whistler...

Problem solved
Apr 20 2009 2:00PM
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Mex_LineJib^a
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lol, good point!
Apr 20 2009 2:06PM
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steezerampage
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Yes that true, But I'll be honest I would only be done to party hard maybe one night.  If you did read the origional post I am hungry to get better at skiing, I can party any day of the week during the summer but will only have one week to ski.
Apr 20 2009 4:17PM
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FreeskierBh
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www.SAsnowsessions.com the obvious choice
Apr 20 2009 4:18PM
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steezerampage
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hahahaha, yeah other than it will cost an extra 4 G's
Apr 20 2009 4:28PM
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KravtZ
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momentum soo much better whistler is so sick
Apr 20 2009 4:29PM
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steezerampage
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Bump
Apr 20 2009 8:45PM
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kstanz
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no COC does have water ramps, and its way better then momentum
Apr 20 2009 8:56PM
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cobalt
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High North for sure.
Apr 20 2009 9:32PM
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kstanz
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^ its closed
Apr 20 2009 9:41PM
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Clarkes
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ive heard good and bad about every camp....which seems to be true for anything haha. Myself personally I think that if i had the choice I would PERSONALLY go to windells. However I dont think you can honestly go wrong, every camp is going to improve your skills no matter what. As long as your on your skis your going to be getting better even if it is marginally. I would go Windells though man. Up to you of course and hey good luck with those tricks let us know how it works out!
Apr 21 2009 12:37AM
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OneLove_skier
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Momentum has great coaches and the line for the T-bar is never too bad as opposed to COC
Apr 21 2009 1:54AM
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Loach
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Hey Dude, Graeme from COC here. As was already mentioned, we do have water ramps at COC.

Also the biggest benefit with the size and set up of our park is variety. We don't have beginner, novice, intermediate and advanced jumps, we have beginner, novice, intermediate and advanced jump LINES, meaning we have multiple jumps back to back that are sized for those ability levels. We feel the key to progression is giving you progressive jump lines where you can easily build your confidence and skill level without having to make any big leaps from one jump to the next.

I just wanted to give you some more food for thought!
Apr 21 2009 2:08AM
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wtan001
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i am kinda like Momentum
Apr 21 2009 11:21AM
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skier11111
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do coc and mo use the same water ramps?  Where would i get more time on them?
Apr 22 2009 3:03PM
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Shewlur...
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from my understanding you would get way more time on the water ramps at coc
Apr 22 2009 3:12PM
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steezerampage
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can anyone confirm this with some facts, way more time doesn't really tell me much
Apr 22 2009 3:40PM
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skier11111
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yeah what does way more time equal, and do either of them have tramps or other off slope training.  Playing paint ball and what not will not help my skiing and I could really care less about doing that kind of stuff at camp
Apr 22 2009 3:43PM
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skier11111
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Coc does not even mention water ramps on their website
Apr 22 2009 3:54PM
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crankdatsoljaboy
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DUDE  go to momentum!

if you dont want to be with little kids go to one of the adult sessions

its the only camp that has adult session

only ski park

t-bar with way less waiting time

cost something like 500 less per session

 thats my opinion

Apr 22 2009 3:57PM
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Afeld
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I went To MHSSC (cheap version of windell's) and that was great. The coaches taught us stuff, and even though Goverment Camp is no Whistler I had the greatest 2 weeks. I would recommend it to anyone on a budget.

http://www.mthood.com/freestyle_camps.htm 
Do park, and dont watch the vids they mostly suck

Apr 22 2009 4:04PM
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crankdatsoljaboy
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ALSO if you go to windells youll be in thewoods alone with lil kids and there will be pretty much nothing to do outside of skiin

for momentum its simple , its in whistler !

Apr 22 2009 4:08PM
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StevenLarick
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Yo dude I have been going to coc for the past 4 summers and I can tell u that its a 100 times better than momenthum and windells.

my reasonings

1.) Coc has the biggest park of them all.

2.) Coc routinly changes their features around

3.) Coc has a banger lunch an free gatorade anytime you want it

4.) Coc has more and hotter girls

5.) They have small features perfect for learning tricks that you mentioned and also big stuff to take those tricks to.

6.) endless verity of lines u can take vs. only 2-3 hits a run

The only down sides to Coc is the lift line that really isnt that bad till the afternoonbut the skiing the best in the moarning.

People are saying to go to windells because they have a lift now but from what i'm hearing is that tons of kids have signed up or windells. so the same case wil mot likey happen to those lifts.


SO GO TO COC YOU WILL NOT REGRET IT BRO!

btw see you there hahaha
Apr 22 2009 4:12PM
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skier11111
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What about the water ramps and off slope things you can do that pertain to skiing, someone please clue me in.
Apr 22 2009 5:37PM
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StevenLarick
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Personally I really wasn't a fan of the water ramps in whistler

reasoning...

The surface is pretty skech... make one wrong slip, you have to stand perfect up and cant crave so if u fall. say bye to ur skin.

The big side is pretty legit... because it has bubbles.

the smaller side on the other hand dosen't. So if you were to under flip or over rotate its gonna be more pain full than if you were on snow.

Plus after a full day shredding you kinda to tried to go ramping and would rather go chill in the village.
Apr 22 2009 6:04PM
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IanAvery-Leaf
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pow + park = perfect
Apr 22 2009 6:20PM
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skier11111
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pow+park+crazy price = not perfect
Apr 22 2009 6:42PM
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steezerampage
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Does COC even have water ramping?

Apr 22 2009 9:48PM
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VCharette
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yes, I would suggest you to read the thread
Apr 22 2009 9:49PM
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geet
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windells
Apr 22 2009 10:22PM
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Loach
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hey Dude,

All camps in Whistler use the same water ramps. We, COC, go three times a week. Hope that helps!
Apr 23 2009 12:06PM
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Loach
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We actually launced our first adult camp this summer at COC. Check it:

http://www.campofchampions.com/whistler/whatyouget/camppackages/adults/adults.aspx

Momentum is only $145 cheaper (youth pricing) than our sessions at COC. Momentum's park is half the size of ours, which may explain the price difference, so you can choose to save that extra money or spend to ride a bigger park.
Apr 23 2009 12:16PM
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dmwssc
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Hey, I'm part of the staff and a former camper from the Dave Murray Whistler Ski Camp. I would definitely choose Whistler out of the other camps to go to, because you aren't stuck with nothing to do after skiing. Our camp is cheaper than momentum and COC, just mentioning. If you want to check out the water ramps, I uploaded a video of our campers at the water ramp.

Apr 29 2009 11:01PM
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dmwssc
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And we have always had an adult camp, so if you wanna check out the site, it`s www.skiandsnowboard.com

Apr 29 2009 11:04PM
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