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birdand1
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Ok, I'm new to this whole freestyle thing but have been skiing for years. I've spent the past three weekends working on skiing backwards and stuff and am now LOVING it (I'm still trying to get used to it so it's really the whole process of learning something new on skis that I'm actually loving). This whole experience of adding another dimension to my skiing has been very gratifying and I find myself having an all new love for skiing.

I've bit the bullet and bought a pair of twin tip skis (my buddy wanted his back that I was using). For this season only I bought a 2000-2001 pair of Rossi Powair's for 100 bux. Next season if I'm still into the whole thing I'll knuckle up and buy a nice pair but for right now the rossis will do.

My question is about bindings. Since I can afford it at the moment I'm going to buy a pair that'll serve me well as a freestyle model for the next couple of years (I'll transfer them to my good pair next season). What should I be looking for? Obviously I want them to be light, right? I've been a STRICT Marker man since I started skiing long ago so I have no idea about Look, Salomon, Tyrolia, or anything else. n Can somebody get me pointed in the right direction as to what would be a good choice for a binding? I was looking at the new Marker 1200 (?) with the piston control....do I really need all that stuff on it?

To give you an idea as to my situation. I am 6'5'..235 lbs, I ski all over the place, but I am located in Washington DC and therefore ski Mid-Atlantic East Coast crud most of the time. I am not building a park specific ski here as I will not be spending ALL of my time there so I'd like a LITTLE all mountain performance.

Again I'm just looking for some input on what bindings to get. Thanks all.
Jan 20 2004 1:53PM
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manus
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honestly, I would get away from the markers (even though I am using them also, but currently running them pretty cranked). The reason is the top toe release. It can be a pain if you are landing/skiing backwards and end up at all off balance.

I've always loved Look/Rossi bindings, and have never had a problem with them. I would highly recomend them. I know a lot of people also swear by Salomon's too, which personally, I've only once had a problem with (cracked toe casing).

Another thing to keep in mind is that you might want to stay away from the pistons and similar technologies, and just go with a somewhat basica setup, keeping your boot as close to the ski (more precise feel) as possible.

Just my $.02, take it for whatcha will.


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Jan 20 2004 1:59PM
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Jaykyu
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Oh yeha, Saomons crac . so do Markers. Weight shoyuldn't be that big a concern .. you're strong and besides, that weight is under foot and you won't really notice it unless you're a wuss.
Go with the look bindings. They make the Scratch FS binding for the Rossi Scrach and ATOMIC just signed a deal with them to make freeride binding for the tweaks for midseason this year.
Looks like they're the beefiest.
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Jan 20 2004 2:07PM
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J.D.
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Scratch 140s or Rossi Power 140 axial bindings, the latter if you want a lifter (but if this is mostly jib you probly don't, and scratches will work better).
The look/rossis release only when you want them to, and never when you don't.
Jan 20 2004 2:09PM
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BallinBU
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ya, i would definitely say go with the looks/rossis
Jan 20 2004 2:21PM
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shagboy
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dude... dont get piston control... if u dont wanna break u skis... Don't get any joiner between heel and toe... Go for look or rossi or salmomon... but only the jib specific bindings... Bindings really dont change performance... my buddies got those same skis... he likes em.. how long are they??
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Jan 20 2004 2:27PM
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birdand1
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they are 178's
Jan 20 2004 2:31PM
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ECfreeski3
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yea definitelty go with the look pivot model or rossignol scratch (both of which are the exact same, they are functionally identical)



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Jan 20 2004 2:41PM
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Tr_Hucker_1080
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Definently go with the rossi bindings. Just switched from Salomon to the power 100's (i'm alittle smaller than you so...) but definently go iwht the scratchs they are bad a**
Jan 20 2004 2:55PM
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SofaKingdom
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I got the Look pivot jib model. I dig the lightness of it in comparison to the salomons. But I slid out of em once doing a 540... that wasn't cool. I've never had a prob with salomons cept for destroying the brakes and my skis came off when I landed a big trick switch... obvious. but i'm diggin the looks. go look.
Jan 20 2004 3:06PM
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birdand1
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Ok,
Another question:

Besides DIN setting what's the difference between:
Look p12
Look p12 ti
and Look p14?

I get that the p12 ti is probably lighter than the p12 but what benifits do I get moving up to a p14? What do ya'll think is the binding that best fits my situation.
Jan 20 2004 3:26PM
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shagboy
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no offense.. but you are a big boy... The 14's are definitily tougher built... Cuz they are built to withstand more pressure... If u ever start to go huge... u want a din of like 11-12 thats really only good on a binding with din of 14 cuz if u max out a din it's unstable cuz the spring has so much tension on it... It'll lose power
go for the 14's unless u plan on upgrading in one or 2 seasons...
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Jan 20 2004 4:25PM
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manus
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the ti has a little bit of titanium and minimal difference in weight, and the difference between the 12 and the 14 really is just the spring is different allowing for a higher DIN setting.


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Jan 20 2004 4:26PM
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rightcoast
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with your weight, go with Rossi/Look...same binding, whatever you can get a deal on.
Go with little to no Lifter on them, maybe go with the 140's but 120 would work for you as well.
Jan 20 2004 5:26PM
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birdand1
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Gee Shag Boy,
You are the first person ever to notice that I am a 'big boy'!!!
Being big has it's advantages. Free college for football.... (but they put in your scholarship agreement that you are not allowed to participate in activities that are 'high risk' for injuries....so for four years I wasn't allowed to ski)
And I can get my skis really cheap because if there is ever overhead of skis at a shop you know it's the long ass ones that nobody can ski (along with the Powairs I got, I also got a pair of Big Stix for 250)because they don't fit on them.

I just have to work twice as hard as everybody else to get air.
Jan 21 2004 9:59AM
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Straightline
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Right on, Im in the big department too. 6'3 and 240 (its all lean though, no rolls). Get the look rossi set up, preferably with the 14 din. Salomon's release while spinning. I have p14s and theyre dope and have never failed me. You may want to try the marker 1400 free. I havent tried em but I hear good things about jibbing.

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Jan 21 2004 10:12AM
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manus
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you guys aren't the only ones in the 240 range, the availability of a 14 DIN will come in handy if you are 200+ in weight. I currently have the 1400 Free on a pair of skis and haven't had a prob yet, but haven't really pushed em. If you have any connection and want even more DIN, look into Race Stock bindings. Rossi/Look have some in the 17-18 range, and I have Marker Race Stocks that go from 8-18.

I never really liked Marker (because of the top toe release), but so far I have not run into any problems running em.


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Jan 21 2004 11:17AM
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shagboy
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Hey man.. i have n o problem with you being big... it's actually cool cuz most of the pros are just wee little guys who are good because of their low centre of gravity and lack of beef...
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Jan 21 2004 11:41AM
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Hedekar
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6'4'' and rockin the axial 140's, I would reccomend them.







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Jan 21 2004 11:48AM
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birdand1
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Shagboy,
If I had a problem with every person who remarked 'wow you're big' I wouldn't have any friends, and I probably would be dead from some tae kwon do little dude kicking my ass one day.
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Just spent my lunch hour looking for Look p12's, p14's, Rossi 120 and 140. Too bad there are only 3 worthwhile shops in the DC metro area and none of them have what I want....man I wish I lived out west.
Jan 21 2004 1:45PM
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J.D.
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I too have problems with miniscule tae kwon do artists... little bastard are too quick.
Jan 21 2004 1:46PM
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GeneralButtNaked
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big is good, you can go places if your big
Jan 21 2004 5:17PM
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shagboy
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hah... i never said i wasn't big... im 6'1' but only 170 lbs... Dude, it's cool to be big... I play football and im to small... i'd rather big big mr.bird...
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Jan 21 2004 5:56PM
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